Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The song
was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's brother
was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
On 1/8/25 8:56 AM, TT wrote:
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 17.56:
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off.
Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.
I'd be interested in comparing the semantics of the two possibilities.
If the lyrics were "old enough to kick it", what would the meaning be in
the given context (..."and old enough to rock a the bop")
vs
"old enough to jig it"?
Also,"rock a the bop" is really loose and vague the way it's written. Basically means nothing at all in US English, however "rock-a-the-bop"
would be interpreted as an acceptable sort of mini-scat often used in
the do-wop genre.
"Who put the bop in the bop-sha-bop-sha-bop"...
What is your opinion, TT?
TT <[email protected]> writes:
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 17.56:
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:Ahhh. I see...
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me
off. Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.
I've read "He's got the whole world in his hands" is most often thought
to be "He's got the whole world in his pants".
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night. Pretty
good. Wonder if it could be made today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM
Again, I didn't listen--but wow! Dandridge was quite an eyeful,
huh?
Definitely.
For the era, she had a "modern body", meaning that she looks
very sexy
by today's standard.
WRT "jig" again, not sure of the context here, but there's the
sly
term "jig-a-boo" for black folk and it was probably was used
pretty
openly at that time.
Yeah, I was wondering about that too
TT <[email protected]> writes:
Judge by yourself:
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/
c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/
PELIT/40856019_04_webstore_lpjzfe.jpg?_i=AB
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/
c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/
PELIT/40856019_01_webstore_rn5a93.jpg?_i=AB
Another one that probably couldn't be made today, you and KK might like
this one particularly. Catchy song!
https://youtu.be/yowOufFfryU?t=20
On 1/8/25 2:14 PM, TT wrote:
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 19.47:
On 1/8/25 8:56 AM, TT wrote:
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 17.56:
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone
Norum's brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough
to JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off.
Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.
I'd be interested in comparing the semantics of the two possibilities.
If the lyrics were "old enough to kick it", what would the meaning be
in the given context (..."and old enough to rock a the bop")
vs
"old enough to jig it"?
Also,"rock a the bop" is really loose and vague the way it's written.
Basically means nothing at all in US English, however "rock-a-the-
bop" would be interpreted as an acceptable sort of mini-scat often
used in the do-wop genre.
"Who put the bop in the bop-sha-bop-sha-bop"...
What is your opinion, TT?
I'd understand "kick" in the context on dancing although not familiar
with the term really... jig seems more fitting, same context.
And I honestly hear "jig it" no matter how much I try to kick it.
Rock the bop is same thing... dancing, partying...
All sounds fine to me.
There's this black slang for "kickin' it" which means sorta hanging out, socially. So "kick it" could mean, in that context, "informally killing
time with friends".
I didn't listen to the song, so I don't know.
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 17.56:
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The song
was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's brother
was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings
jig it. Lying bastards.
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:56:25 +0200, TT <[email protected]> wrote:
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 17.56:
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The song >>>> was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's brother >>>> was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings >>jig it. Lying bastards.
Well you and the internet are all wrong. I don't claim any great
proficiency as a lip reader, but it looks very much to me that she's
singing "I'm old enough to chicken". Digging deeper it appears that, >according to the OED, there was a dance called "The Chicken" around
1957. (Cf. Little Eva's "Turkey Trot", ~1963)
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/chicken_n?tl=true
You'll have to scroll down to section III.14.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-)
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM
On 1/10/25 5:27 AM, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 09:03:53 -0900, jdeluise <[email protected]>
wrote:
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM
One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never
can tell with those Germans):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBXaYsOfe8
Odd. YouTube tells me, solemnly, that "your uploader has not made this
video available in your country".
Wonder what that's all about...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVZiM2vEVsM
On 10/01/2025 15.27, Custos Custodum wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVZiM2vEVsM
The banjo always wins against the guittar.
On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 09:03:53 -0900, jdeluise <[email protected]>
wrote:
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM
One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never
can tell with those Germans):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBXaYsOfe8
Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 02:42:28 +0000, Custos Custodum <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:56:25 +0200, TT <[email protected]> wrote:
Sawfish kirjoitti 8.1.2025 klo 17.56:
On 1/7/25 9:53 PM, TT wrote:
TT kirjoitti 7.1.2025 klo 6.46:
Yes. It probably is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgTzK-I9ig&t=112s
No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The song >>>>> was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's brother >>>>> was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
https://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14?si=gkFvJzbpfeBrJgGl
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...
Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.
Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings >>> jig it. Lying bastards.
Well you and the internet are all wrong. I don't claim any great
proficiency as a lip reader, but it looks very much to me that she's
singing "I'm old enough to chicken". Digging deeper it appears that,
according to the OED, there was a dance called "The Chicken" around
1957. (Cf. Little Eva's "Turkey Trot", ~1963)
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/chicken_n?tl=true
You'll have to scroll down to section III.14.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-)
Here y'go: "Do the Chicken" by Billy "The Kid" Emerson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWMsaOVfek
Custos Custodum kirjoitti 10.1.2025 klo 15.27:> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 09:03:53 -0900, jdeluise <[email protected]>> wrote:> >> Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.>> Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM> > One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never> can tell with those Germans):> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBXaYsOfe8> > Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.>
TT <[email protected]> Wrote in message:rwww.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM> > One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never> can tell with those Germans):> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBXaYsOfe8> > Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.>
Custos Custodum kirjoitti 10.1.2025 klo 15.27:> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 09:03:53 -0900, jdeluise <[email protected]>> wrote:> >> Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.>> Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.>>>> https://
Pianoforte is "quiet and loud". How about that?
It was a name for an improvement clavier instrument (e.g. clavichord, harpsichord) that was able to, well, produce quieter and louder sounds, depending on the force you exert on keyboard, no?
Clavis, Latin, key.
Wikiperformer depresses the key. Centuries of work on the mechanism of the harpsichord in particular had shown instrument builders the most effective ways to construct the case, soundboard, bridge, and mechanical action for a keyboard intended to sound
By the 17th century, the mechanisms of keyboard instruments such as the clavichord and the harpsichord were well developed. In a clavichord the strings are struck by tangents, while in a harpsichord they are mechanically plucked by quills when the
The English word piano is a shortened form of the Italian pianoforte, derived from gravecembalo col piano e forte ("harpsichord with soft and loud").Invented in 1700, the fortepiano was the first keyboard instrument to allow gradations of volume and tone according to how forcefully or softly the player presses or strikes the keys, unlike the pipe organ and harpsichord.
Variations in volume (loudness) are produced in response to the pianist's touch (pressure on the keys): the greater the pressure, the greater the force of the hammer hitting the strings and the louder the sound produced and the stronger the attack.
In this case, I side with Germans.
It's a fucking keyboard instrument.
If it has keys, it's a clavier.
We also don't say "quiet" for this instrument, but either "klavir" or use home-made word, "glasovir" (soundmaker).
Bach totally sounds better on old instruments where it doesn't matter how loud the tones are. He composed his music to play with harmonies, not volume and duration. Playing Bach on modern piano is a waste of time imo.
https://youtu.be/A9Skj4lfhC4?si=_jM99GgTjBaz7f4o
For example check how truly Mediterranean, eastern, oriental, greek and finally turkish his rondo alla Turca sounds on clavichord. Many would say this is "it".
https://youtu.be/-OWOqkUTjbE?si=_R9YX5AwfQy7ckaS
Check moonlight sonata on this ancient true piano, or pianoforte.
https://youtu.be/nBLdDOqMQj0?si=E7373urGQUj55NdP
*skriptis kirjoitti 12.1.2025 klo 11.24:
TT <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
Custos Custodum kirjoitti 10.1.2025 klo 15.27:> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025
09:03:53 -0900, jdeluise <[email protected]>> wrote:> >> Speaking of
a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.>> Pretty good.
Wonder if it could be made today.>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=aoEVG_KB5IM> > One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made
today (but you never> can tell with those Germans):> > https://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBXaYsOfe8> > Knowledge of German not
required - the pictures say it all.> English: PianoFinnish:
PianoSwedish: PianoRussian: Пианино (Pianino)French: PianoSpanish: >>> PianoItalian: PianofortePortuguese: PianoGerman: Klavier
Pianoforte is "quiet and loud". How about that?
It was a name for an improvement clavier instrument (e.g. clavichord,
harpsichord) that was able to, well, produce quieter and louder
sounds, depending on the force you exert on keyboard, no?
Clavis, Latin, key.
Wiki
By the 17th century, the mechanisms of keyboard instruments such as
the clavichord and the harpsichord were well developed. In a
clavichord the strings are struck by tangents, while in a harpsichord
they are mechanically plucked by quills when the performer depresses
the key. Centuries of work on the mechanism of the harpsichord in
particular had shown instrument builders the most effective ways to
construct the case, soundboard, bridge, and mechanical action for a
keyboard intended to sound strings.
The English word piano is a shortened form of the Italian pianoforte,
derived from gravecembalo col piano e forte ("harpsichord with soft
and loud").
Variations in volume (loudness) are produced in response to the
pianist's touch (pressure on the keys): the greater the pressure, the
greater the force of the hammer hitting the strings and the louder the
sound produced and the stronger the attack. Invented in 1700, the
fortepiano was the first keyboard instrument to allow gradations of
volume and tone according to how forcefully or softly the player
presses or strikes the keys, unlike the pipe organ and harpsichord.
In this case, I side with Germans.
It's a fucking keyboard instrument.
If it has keys, it's a clavier.
We also don't say "quiet" for this instrument, but either "klavir" or
use home-made word, "glasovir" (soundmaker).
Bach totally sounds better on old instruments where it doesn't matter
how loud the tones are. He composed his music to play with harmonies,
not volume and duration. Playing Bach on modern piano is a waste of
time imo.
https://youtu.be/A9Skj4lfhC4?si=_jM99GgTjBaz7f4o
This is gay.
Lots of homosexuals in European courts bitd I assume.
For example check how truly Mediterranean, eastern, oriental, greek
and finally turkish his rondo alla Turca sounds on clavichord. Many
would say this is "it".
https://youtu.be/-OWOqkUTjbE?si=_R9YX5AwfQy7ckaS
Still a bit gay but better, quite fitting for the music actually.
Check moonlight sonata on this ancient true piano, or pianoforte.
https://youtu.be/nBLdDOqMQj0?si=E7373urGQUj55NdP
Piano sounds better, imo.
TT <[email protected]> Wrote in message:rwww.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEVG_KB5IM> > One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never> can tell with those Germans):> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBXaYsOfe8> > Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.>
Custos Custodum kirjoitti 10.1.2025 klo 15.27:> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 09:03:53 -0900, jdeluise <[email protected]>> wrote:> >> Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.>> Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.>>>> https://
Pianoforte is "quiet and loud". How about that?
It was a name for an improvement clavier instrument (e.g. clavichord, harpsichord) that was able to, well, produce quieter and louder sounds, depending on the force you exert on keyboard, no?
Clavis, Latin, key.
Wikiperformer depresses the key.
By the 17th century, the mechanisms of keyboard instruments such as the clavichord and the harpsichord were well developed. In a clavichord the strings are struck by tangents, while in a harpsichord they are mechanically plucked by quills when the
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