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On 2/4/24 6:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:> undecided <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r>> On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 8:07:50 PM UTC-5, *skriptis wrote:> undecided <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 2:57:32
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[email protected]> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 5:37:46 AM UTC-5, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 3.2.2024 2.49, undecided wrote: > > On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 12:54:23 PM UTC-5, *
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[email protected]> Wrote in message:r > >>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 6:34:56 PM UTC-5, TT wrote:>
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1752591035547422930?s=20 > > Just beautiful in the heart of Europe. > > As a bonus,
Sweden... >
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFKGO25XQAAWBHv?format=jpg&name=smallIt's like that in many places in Europe that accepted very large number of refugees from 3rd world countries. To be expected I think, what will these uneducated, destitude
people going to do? Magically become doctors, lawyers, scientists? Maybe their children/grandchildren will. > >> > >> > >> How does that improve anything? > >> > >> Whether their children/grandchildren are doctors, lawyers, scientists or not, they will
be there and taking place from our children/grandchildren. > >> > >> It does not matter who is doctor, lawyer, scientist, it matters who occupies the land. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > >>
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piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > > Like Sawfish says below, many of the western nations would be facing negative birth rates and heading for insolvency (not enough young people paying into ss, medicare, etc) if not for immigration.>
The native population of Finland has been diminishing since 2016. The > net increase in immigration is what has kept the total growing so far. > Barely. > > Between 2000-2021 the total workforce lost 15000-19000 locals. This > trend is not going
anywhere. During the next decade, 1/3 of our HC > personnel will retire. These are hard to replace unless you start doing > it now. > > During the same 2000-2021 period, the workforce gained about 160000 > foreign-born workers. The increase in the # of
workers is only due to > immigration. The bills are also increasing because the ratio (# of out > of workforce)/(# of workforce) is increasing. Ageing. > > It is estimated that a yearly net immigration of 35000 keeps the > workforce at its present size.
We can kind of gauge things from that. In > 2022, net immigration was 34000. IIRC, a record year (due to Ukraine). > > The employment rate of furriners is not quite that of the natives (which > could be better also) but it is close enuff. Those arrived
in the past > ten years have fared well, better than the native unemployed. Which, I > guess, is the sticking point. > > If our Finnskies want to keep their present standards of living in the > 2030s and beyond, their choices are limited. > > -- > "And
off they went, from here to there, > The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair" > -- TraditionalThis is happening everywhere. Problem with the Dem approach is that we are letting in people who require a lot of assistance, they are a net loss for the public,
they are collecting more than they are contributing through taxes. We need to ensure that the people coming in will add tax revenue not subtract from it. > > > > So basically you'd want to rob poorer countries of their most vital demographic that they'
ve spent fortune to educate? > > Is that?> -- > > > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- >
https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhat? Yes, the answer is yes, we had been doing that prior to this stupid move. Plus a huge number of
them are educated in US universities but then they have to go back due to visa quotas for their respective countries. > > > > That's aggressive towards other countries. > > They're entitled to declare war on you for doing that.> -- > > > > > ----Android
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https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThis is the most absurd claim I've ever seen....>>> Yeah sure, take their most precious assets and it's nothing that they should complain about?>>> Well, the feeling is
mutual.> Your theories and views are absurd.>> It's nothing personal, you're a decent poster but I can't believe a person can hold such views.>> It's unthinkable imo. Not real.>>> However I am perhaps even more annoyed since I know you're actually from
Greece and you have or you had exposure to something else than this current multicultural dogma in the west.>> That's what actually annoys me. You're not someone like jdeluise or Grachhus. You should at least *understand* more even if you don't like it
or don't agree.>> Sawfish is kinda there I think quite often.Succinctly, skript: I am very much like you, but I am in an environment where I have to daily, for my entire life, make compromises to succeed that perhaps you do not. If this is true, I can
see no way that you'd truly understand what it's like living in a social environment like I do.I make no judgement about any of this, but I have my preferences, and I can *feel* them in my gut: I would very likely choose your type of environment over
mine, I cannot say absolutely, having never been there, and that's why I say "very likely".If any given human population's social tolerances are distributed along a Gauss curve, some would find it impossible to live here, and they are either hopeless
reactionaries, backwoods hermits, or are drugging themselves for peace of mind. Possibly all three. At the upper quartile of hereditary social tolerance you have probably most Chinese in America, as an example. I am fairly close to this level of gut-
level social tolerance. I have preferences, but am able to tolerate a lot of stuff.Not all, though.I theorize that cultures that have done a lot foreign trading for years, those involved in trading have succeed or failed based on this hereditary
tolerance.Just idle thinking probably.In no sense do I attach a level of superiority to any of these types. The way I see it, you've simply got to plow your way forward in whatever environment you're faced with, social or otherwise, as best you can, or
go under.I'm *not* going under...-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"...and your little dog, too!" --Sawfish
You're Scarlett O'Hara no?
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