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    From Johannes Brakensiek@21:1/5 to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz on Fri Apr 16 14:00:01 2021
    On 16 Apr 2021, at 13:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

    But the image is blessed in HFS vocabulary. If you insert such a CD
    and press the <Option>
    key during boot, the CD will be selectable during boot.

    Ok, good to know. Then I suppose the Mac’s firmware just won’t
    detect it if it’s copied to a USB stick?

    Johannes

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  • From Johannes Brakensiek@21:1/5 to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz on Fri Apr 16 13:40:01 2021
    Hello Adrian,

    On 16 Apr 2021, at 11:40, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

    As promised, new images:


    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-16/


    ppc64 should install fine on PowerMac G5 now.

    hooray! It works - smoothly! Very great! 🎉

    Really nice. To say it with words like Steve: It’s the best system
    that was ever made for a PowerMac G5!

    So, thank you for your efforts.

    From a user’s perspective now I only had one wish left, Adrian: Do
    you think it would be possible to generate a blessed iso/install image?
    If I could boot that image using the regular „option key boot disk
    view“ of a Mac, it would be very appealing regarding user experience.
    I’d even say UX would be *very good* then.

    Thanks again
    Johannes

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    <p dir="auto">Hello Adrian,</p>

    <p dir="auto">On 16 Apr 2021, at 11:40, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:</p>

    <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px">
    <p dir="auto">As promised, new images:</p>

    <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#999; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px; border-left-color:#999">
    <p dir="auto"><a href="https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-16/" style="color:#999">https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-16/</a></p>
    </blockquote>

    <p dir="auto">ppc64 should install fine on PowerMac G5 now.</p>
    </blockquote>

    <p dir="auto">hooray! It works - smoothly! Very great! 🎉</p>

    <p dir="auto">Really nice. To say it with words like Steve: It’s the best system that was ever made for a PowerMac G5!</p>

    <p dir="auto">So, thank you for your efforts.</p>

    <p dir="auto">From a user’s perspective now I only had one wish left, Adrian: Do you think it would be possible to generate a blessed iso/install image? If I could boot that image using the regular „option key boot disk view“ of a Mac, it would be
    very appealing regarding user experience. I’d even say UX would be <em>very good</em> then.</p>

    <p dir="auto">Thanks again<br>
    Johannes</p>
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  • From Rick Thomas@21:1/5 to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz on Sat Apr 17 08:50:01 2021
    On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, at 5:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
    On 4/16/21 1:57 PM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote:

    On 16 Apr 2021, at 13:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

    But the image is blessed in HFS vocabulary. If you insert such a CD and press the <Option>
    key during boot, the CD will be selectable during boot.

    Ok, good to know. Then I suppose the Mac’s firmware just won’t detect it if it’s copied to a USB stick?

    It could be that the blessing gets lost when putting it onto a USB disk.

    I verified that when burnt to a CD, the image will show up in <Option>
    menu with
    an icon (which we can switch to a Debian swirl maybe later). But I
    don't know about
    OpenFirmware at the moment to know how to reproduce this behavior with
    a USB stick.

    I vaguely remember having read somewhere that the "boot with option key" on PowerPC machines does not examine USB disks for bootable partitions. It does know about Firewire disks, and ATA/SATA disks, but just not USB disks.

    The workaround is to boot directly into OpenFirmware (CMD-OPT-O-F) and give it a boot command tailored for your USB disk. For other options see -- http://www.jacsoft.co.nz/Tech_Notes/Mac_Keys.shtml and the apple tech info library articles -- https://
    developer.apple.com/library/archive/navigation/index.html#topic=Technical+Notes&section=Resource+Types

    Hope that helps!

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  • From Jeffrey Walton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 17 10:30:02 2021
    On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:48 AM Rick Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, at 5:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
    On 4/16/21 1:57 PM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote:
    ...
    Ok, good to know. Then I suppose the Mac’s firmware just won’t detect it if it’s copied to a USB stick?

    It could be that the blessing gets lost when putting it onto a USB disk.

    I verified that when burnt to a CD, the image will show up in <Option>
    menu with
    an icon (which we can switch to a Debian swirl maybe later). But I
    don't know about
    OpenFirmware at the moment to know how to reproduce this behavior with
    a USB stick.

    I vaguely remember having read somewhere that the "boot with option key" on PowerPC machines does not examine USB disks for bootable partitions. It does know about Firewire disks, and ATA/SATA disks, but just not USB disks.

    This is likely correct. I experienced the same issue when trying to
    boot from USB.

    I just burned a plain old bootable CD and things worked fine.

    (In the past with the images from January or February).

    Jeff

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  • From Johannes Brakensiek@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Walton on Sat Apr 17 15:10:01 2021
    On 17 Apr 2021, at 10:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

    This is likely correct. I experienced the same issue when trying to
    boot from USB.

    I just burned a plain old bootable CD and things worked fine.

    Yep, I think that both of you are correct. I had no trouble to boot from
    USB using this OF command though:

    `boot ud:\boot\grub\powerpc.elf`

    The issue remains even with the first Dual Core Intel models: They boot
    fine from CD ROM (even using legacy Windows MBR boot loading), but
    won’t when trying from USB.

    Thanks
    Johannes

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    <p dir="auto">On 17 Apr 2021, at 10:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote:</p>

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    <p dir="auto">This is likely correct. I experienced the same issue when trying to<br>
    boot from USB.</p>

    <p dir="auto">I just burned a plain old bootable CD and things worked fine.</p> </blockquote>

    <p dir="auto">Yep, I think that both of you are correct. I had no trouble to boot from USB using this OF command though:</p>

    <p dir="auto"><code style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:3px; margin:0; padding:0 0.4em" bgcolor="#F7F7F7">boot ud:\boot\grub\powerpc.elf</code></p>

    <p dir="auto">The issue remains even with the first Dual Core Intel models: They boot fine from CD ROM (even using legacy Windows MBR boot loading), but won’t when trying from USB.</p>

    <p dir="auto">Thanks<br>
    Johannes</p>
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