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  • Re: Anybody Skype users here?

    From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 31 01:50:02 2024
    Juan,


    Apologies I do not have an answer for you.


    It would seem you love Snaps about as much as I do. I watch videos on
    YouTube of people complaining about APT, or Synaptic, but I disagree
    with them, I really like those programs and the Debian packaging
    system. They are very reliable, just like Debian.



    I too have a Skype account, but my friends have moved to other
    platforms, so I only log in once or twice a year to see if anyone
    messaged me. I do this via a Windows Virtual Machine using KVM. I only
    use this solution for chat, not conferencing. And now with Windows 10
    coming to and end, I guess my use of Skype will end too. My hardware
    will not run Windows 11.



    I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ?  How did you find it?
    If it does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as
    'Skype for Web' might be a solution for myself if it works enough.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/skype-for-web-preview-your-most-asked-questions-9c4836e4-5cdb-4261-ae46-d919b974af8a
    Skype for Web (Preview) - your most asked questions

    I want to try the Skype for Web (Preview) experience. How do I do
    that?
    Please go to https://preview.web.skype.com and sign into Skype.



    https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=snap https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian


    George.








    On Friday, 31-05-2024 at 08:58 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:


    Hi folks,

    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days
    ago
    it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
    it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
    basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
    Unfortunately,
    I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to
    MS
    (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.

    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that

    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

    Thanks

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    <body><div>Juan,</div><div><br></div><div>Apologies I do not have an answer for you.</div><div><br></div><div>It would seem you love Snaps about as much as I do. I watch videos on YouTube of people complaining about APT, or Synaptic, but I disagree with
    them, I really like those programs and the Debian packaging system. They are very reliable, just like Debian.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I too have a Skype account, but my friends have moved to other platforms, so I only log in once or twice a year to
    see if anyone messaged me. I do this via a Windows Virtual Machine using KVM. I only use this solution for chat, not conferencing. And now with Windows 10 coming to and end, I guess my use of Skype will end too. My hardware will not run Windows 11.<br></
    <div><br></div><div>I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ?&nbsp; How did you find it? If it does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as 'Skype for Web' might be a solution for myself if it works enough.</div><div><br>https://
    support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/skype-for-web-preview-your-most-asked-questions-9c4836e4-5cdb-4261-ae46-d919b974af8a<br>Skype for Web (Preview) - your most asked questions<br><br>I want to try the Skype for Web (Preview) experience. How do I do that?<
    Please go to https://preview.web.skype.com and sign into Skype. <br></div><div><br></div><div>https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=snap<br>https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian</div><div><br></div><div>George.<br></div><div><br></
    <div><br></div><div><br></div><br>On Friday, 31-05-2024 at 08:58 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:<br><blockquote style="border:0;border-left: 2px solid #22437f; padding:0px; margin:0px; padding-left:5px; margin-left: 5px; ">Hi folks,<br>

    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.&nbsp;&nbsp;A couple of days ago <br>
    it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into <br>
    it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and <br> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.<br>

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, <br>
    I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS <br> (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.<br>

    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that <br> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?<br>

    Thanks</blockquote></body></html>

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to Keith Bainbridge on Fri May 31 02:00:01 2024
    On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:


    <snip>



    Good morning Juan

    Three sites suggest:

    wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb


    Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory listing
    (to find version numbers), returned the following;

    "
    An error occurred while processing your request.

    Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

    https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
    "


    --
    ....
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    Western Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    .................

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  • From Dan Ritter@21:1/5 to Juan R.D. Silva on Fri May 31 02:00:01 2024
    Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo. A couple of days ago it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

    I'm pretty sure that if MS removed the package, it was not a
    Debian official repo.

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.

    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

    Does it work through a browser?

    Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a
    browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works
    through a browser.

    -dsr-

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to Juan R.D. Silva on Fri May 31 02:00:01 2024
    On 31/5/24 06:58, Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
    Hi folks,

    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
    it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
    it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
    basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately,
    I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS
    (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.

    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

    Thanks

    What version of skype do you have installed?

    I have skypeforlinux 8.109.0.209 installed on a Linux Mint system.

    But, I have not used skype, now, for about 11 years.

    Regarding snap, with your reference to Ubuntu Linux, the imposition of
    snap was one of the reasons to leave Ubuntu Linux. snap is bloat, and
    leads to nastiness, like automatic updating of a system, so that, for
    example, if you would be in the middle of an important skype call, or,
    in the middle of another important task, expect to have it all shutdown
    - Ubuntu has gone the MS way (with its snap cr*p), and, starts doing a
    system update and reboot; so, if you really want any control that you
    have over your system, and, confidence in using your system, taken away
    from you then, infect it with snap.

    ....
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    Western Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    .................

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to Dan Ritter on Fri May 31 02:10:01 2024
    On 31/5/24 07:33, Dan Ritter wrote:

    <snip>


    Does it work through a browser?

    Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a
    browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works
    through a browser.

    -dsr-

    Using each of those, apparently, comes with its own varying degree of risk.

    Zoom and google might be okay, if you want your calls content
    intercepted and sold, and, used for impersonation, etc.

    jitsi has been regarded as the relatively safest.

    The problems of zoom, etc ("we are recording you through your bedroom
    window, so we can use whatever amuses us"), has previously been
    discussed on this list, and, at The Register, with the Free Software
    Foundation telling its people to not uses zoom, and, recommending and
    adopting jitsi, for such communications.

    Search list archive for zoom...

    One great disadvantage, as far as I am aware, with skype, is that it has
    been available only for limited platforms; I have siblings who use Mac
    systems, for which, skype does not work. They use zoom for video calls,
    as it is cross-platform. They do not have the ICT awareness, to be aware
    of problems with zoom, in terms of privacy and security breaches by the provider.

    A problem is that some people and institutions, are fixed in their ways,
    and mandate skype or zoom, or some other similarly disreputable software.

    ....
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    Western Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    .................

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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to Bret Busby on Fri May 31 02:10:01 2024
    On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
    wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb


    Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
    listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;

    "
    An error occurred while processing your request.

    Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

    https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
    "

    It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
    time out), but it worked here (KS):

    $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
    --2024-05-30 18:59:55-- https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
    Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
    Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
    Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’

    skypeforlinux-64.deb 100%[=========================================>] 116.41M 9.19MB/s in 12s

    2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved [122062452/122062452]

    $

    Cheers,
    David.

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to David Wright on Fri May 31 02:50:01 2024
    On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote:
    On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
    wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb


    Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
    listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;

    "
    An error occurred while processing your request.

    Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

    https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
    "

    It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
    time out), but it worked here (KS):

    $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
    --2024-05-30 18:59:55-- https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
    Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
    Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
    Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’

    skypeforlinux-64.deb 100%[=========================================>] 116.41M 9.19MB/s in 12s

    2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved [122062452/122062452]

    $

    Cheers,
    David.
    Hello.

    If you install it, please tell me what is the version number.

    Thank you in anticipation.

    ....
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    Western Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    .................

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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to Bret Busby on Fri May 31 04:00:01 2024
    On Fri 31 May 2024 at 08:48:33 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote:
    On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
    wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb


    Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
    listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;

    "
    An error occurred while processing your request.

    Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

    https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
    "

    It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
    time out), but it worked here (KS):

    $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
    --2024-05-30 18:59:55-- https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
    Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
    Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
    Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
    skypeforlinux-64.deb 100%[=========================================>] 116.41M 9.19MB/s in 12s
    2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved [122062452/122062452]
    $

    If you install it, please tell me what is the version number.

    Thank you in anticipation.

    I haven't, but DEBIAN/control is attached, and there are
    several occurrences of v8 in the main binary.

    Cheers,
    David.

    Package: skypeforlinux
    Version: 8.109.0.209
    Architecture: amd64
    Maintainer: Skype Technologies S.A. <[email protected]>
    Installed-Size: 312110
    Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk-bridge2.0-0 (>= 2.5.3), libatk1.0-0 (>= 2.2.0), libatspi2.0-0 (>= 2.9.90), libc6 (>= 2.17), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libdrm2 (>= 2.4.38), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libgbm1 (>= 17.1.0~rc2), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libglib2.0-0
    = 2.39.4), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.9.10), libnspr4 (>= 2:4.9-2~), libnss3 (>= 2:3.22), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libsecret-1-0 (>= 0.18), libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1), libxcb1 (>= 1.9.2), libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3,
    libxkbcommon0 (>= 0.5.0), libxrandr2, gnome-keyring, apt-transport-https, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.11.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.6.18), libstdc++6 (>= 4.8.1), libatomic1
    Section: non-free/net
    Priority: extra
    Homepage: https://www.skype.com
    Description: Skype keeps the world talking, for free.
    Skype keeps you together. Call, message and share with others.
    * It's free to download and join.
    * Call, instant message and send photos and documents to anyone else on Skype.
    * Easily text message anywhere in the world.
    * Get your friends together on a group call.
    And that's just the start...

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to Juan R.D. Silva on Fri May 31 11:40:01 2024
    "Juan R.D. Silva" <[email protected]> writes:

    Hi folks,

    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo. A couple of days ago
    it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
    it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
    basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my
    system. Unfortunately, I still need Skype and I do not see any
    alternative but to concede to MS (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.

    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

    Thanks

    You can use skype from the web page, web.skype.com, without installing
    it. Maybe that would do?

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