• salsa accounts

    From Alberto Salvia Novella@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 1 16:30:01 2022
    Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at " salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make
    pull requests.

    For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk <https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk> on my distro, which is a
    port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help
    out because I can't create an account.

    (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

    <div dir="ltr"><div>Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at &quot;<a href="http://salsa.debian.org">salsa.debian.org</a>&quot;. So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make pull requests.</div><div><br></div><div>
    For example I&#39;m using <a href="https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk">Debian&#39;s syncthing-gtk</a> on my distro, which is a port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help out because I can&#39;t create an
    account.<br></div><div><br></div><div>(When replying, include my email in the &quot;by&quot; field)<br></div></div>

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  • From Nilesh Patra@21:1/5 to Alberto Salvia Novella on Tue Nov 1 17:00:01 2022
    On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at " salsa.debian.org".

    It is ''already allowed''. Once registered, it goes via a process of manual approval.

    So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs,

    salsa is not the right place to report bugs, BTS is[1]

    and make pull requests.

    For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk <https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk> on my distro, which is a
    port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help out because I can't create an account.

    You can file a bug with BTS and attach a patch there.

    (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

    I am not aware of any such field, did you mean "TO" field?

    [1]: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/

    --
    Best,
    Nilesh

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  • From Antonio Terceiro@21:1/5 to Alberto Salvia Novella on Tue Nov 1 18:10:01 2022
    On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at " salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make pull requests.

    For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk <https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk> on my distro, which is a
    port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help out because I can't create an account.

    (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

    That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
    little patience until your account gets approved.

    https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users


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  • From Alberto Salvia Novella@21:1/5 to Antonio Terceiro on Tue Nov 1 19:10:01 2022
    I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.

    (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at " salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and
    make
    pull requests.

    For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk <https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk> on my distro, which is a port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot
    help
    out because I can't create an account.

    (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

    That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have little patience until your account gets approved.

    https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users



    <div dir="ltr"><div>I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.</div><div><br></div><div>(When replying, include my email in the &quot;to&quot; field)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 1 Nov
    2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Nov 01,
    2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:<br>
    &gt; Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at &quot;<br>
    &gt; <a href="http://salsa.debian.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">salsa.debian.org</a>&quot;. So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make<br>
    &gt; pull requests.<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; For example I&#39;m using Debian&#39;s syncthing-gtk<br>
    &gt; &lt;<a href="https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk</a>&gt; on my distro, which is a<br>
    &gt; port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help<br>
    &gt; out because I can&#39;t create an account.<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; (When replying, include my email in the &quot;by&quot; field)<br>

    That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam<br> registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have<br> little patience until your account gets approved.<br>

    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users</a><br>

    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Alberto Salvia Novella@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 2 17:20:01 2022
    It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀

    Who is in charge?

    (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 19:00, Alberto Salvia Novella <[email protected]> wrote:

    I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.

    (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
    salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and
    make
    pull requests.

    For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
    <https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk> on my distro, which is
    a
    port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot
    help
    out because I can't create an account.

    (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

    That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam
    registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
    little patience until your account gets approved.

    https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users



    <div dir="ltr"><div>It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀</div><div><br></div><div>Who is in charge?<br></div><div><br></div><div>(When replying, include my email in the &quot;to&quot; field)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><
    div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 19:00, Alberto Salvia Novella &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
    solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.</div><div><br></div><div>(When replying, include my email in the &quot;to&quot; field)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div
    dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:
    1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:<br>
    &gt; Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at &quot;<br>
    &gt; <a href="http://salsa.debian.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">salsa.debian.org</a>&quot;. So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make<br>
    &gt; pull requests.<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; For example I&#39;m using Debian&#39;s syncthing-gtk<br>
    &gt; &lt;<a href="https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk</a>&gt; on my distro, which is a<br>
    &gt; port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help<br>
    &gt; out because I can&#39;t create an account.<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; (When replying, include my email in the &quot;by&quot; field)<br>

    That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam<br> registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have<br> little patience until your account gets approved.<br>

    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users</a><br>

    </blockquote></div>
    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Znoteer@21:1/5 to Alberto Salvia Novella on Wed Nov 2 18:10:01 2022
    I am neither a Debian Developer nor a Debian Maintainer, so I am certainly not in charge. However, as an ordinary Debian user, I was able to get a salsa account after following the instructions for doing so, and waiting for my account to be approved.

    If you don't seem to be able to get an account, I would have to guess that either you didn't follow the directions, or you just haven't waited enough.

    Everything in Debian is done by volunteers. Though there is a Project Leader, they do not have any authority to be ordering anybody to do anything nor to officially investigate anything. Nobody does. If your account has been properly applied for but not
    approved, it's because no volunteer with the necessary system privileges has yet had the time to approve backlogged applications. No one is going to tell anyone else to do it more quickly.

    You'll just have to be patient like has previously been suggested.

    --
    Znoteer
    [email protected]

    On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 05:06:52PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀

    Who is in charge?

    (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 19:00, Alberto Salvia Novella <[email protected]> wrote:

    I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.

    (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at " >> > salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and
    make
    pull requests.

    For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
    <https://salsa.debian.org/debian/syncthing-gtk> on my distro, which is >> a
    port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot >> help
    out because I can't create an account.

    (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

    That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam >> registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have >> little patience until your account gets approved.

    https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users



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  • From Joerg Jaspert@21:1/5 to Alberto Salvia Novella on Wed Nov 2 22:20:01 2022
    On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀
    Who is in charge?

    You may want to start reading answers you are getting.

    We won't allow gmail.com addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the
    worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail completly, it just sucks to allow it.

    And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.

    You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to
    register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don't use gmail.

    --
    bye, Joerg

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  • From Luna Jernberg@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 2 23:50:01 2022
    Hey!

    i think i use Gmail on my Salsa account, is it advised to change the
    email to another provider if you already have an account?

    On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 10:19 PM Joerg Jaspert <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀
    Who is in charge?

    You may want to start reading answers you are getting.

    We won't allow gmail.com addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail completly, it just sucks to allow it.

    And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.

    You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don't use gmail.

    --
    bye, Joerg


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  • From Alberto Salvia Novella@21:1/5 to Joerg Jaspert on Thu Nov 3 07:10:01 2022
    I won't abide to such email standards.

    On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 22:11, Joerg Jaspert <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀
    Who is in charge?

    You may want to start reading answers you are getting.

    We won't allow gmail.com addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail completly, it just sucks to allow it.

    And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.

    You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don't use gmail.

    --
    bye, Joerg


    <div dir="ltr"><div></div>I won&#39;t abide to such email standards.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 22:11, Joerg Jaspert &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<
    </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:<br>
    &gt; It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 🧀<br>
    &gt; Who is in charge?<br>

    You may want to start reading answers you are getting.<br>

    We won&#39;t allow <a href="http://gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gmail.com</a> addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the<br>
    worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail<br> completly, it just sucks to allow it.<br>

    And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.<br>

    You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to<br> register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don&#39;t use gmail.<br>

    -- <br>
    bye, Joerg<br>
    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Thomas Goirand@21:1/5 to Alberto Salvia Novella on Thu Nov 3 16:50:02 2022
    On 11/3/22 04:25, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    I won't abide to such email standards.

    Hi,

    You've been given an alternative (ie: ask on IRC, still keeping your
    gmail account).

    Also, if you retried to register, I am guessing most (if not all) Salsa
    admins would have seen your email again, and accepted it... You haven't,
    as much as I know.

    So, please do one of the suggested actions, and you'll get your account.

    Cheers,

    Thomas Goirand

    P.S: maybe keeping a polite tone would be nice?

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  • From Alberto Salvia Novella@21:1/5 to Thomas Goirand on Fri Nov 4 19:10:01 2022
    Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
    the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now
    asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.

    Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm sorry I'm no longer interested.

    On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 16:44, Thomas Goirand <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 11/3/22 04:25, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
    I won't abide to such email standards.

    Hi,

    You've been given an alternative (ie: ask on IRC, still keeping your
    gmail account).

    Also, if you retried to register, I am guessing most (if not all) Salsa admins would have seen your email again, and accepted it... You haven't,
    as much as I know.

    So, please do one of the suggested actions, and you'll get your account.

    Cheers,

    Thomas Goirand

    P.S: maybe keeping a polite tone would be nice?



    <div dir="ltr"><div>Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.</div><div><br>
    </div><div>Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I&#39;m sorry I&#39;m no longer interested.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 16:44, Thomas Goirand &lt;<
    a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 11/3/22 04:25, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:<br>
    &gt; I won&#39;t abide to such email standards.<br>

    Hi,<br>

    You&#39;ve been given an alternative (ie: ask on IRC, still keeping your <br> gmail account).<br>

    Also, if you retried to register, I am guessing most (if not all) Salsa <br> admins would have seen your email again, and accepted it... You haven&#39;t, <br>
    as much as I know.<br>

    So, please do one of the suggested actions, and you&#39;ll get your account.<br>

    Cheers,<br>

    Thomas Goirand<br>

    P.S: maybe keeping a polite tone would be nice?<br>

    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Gunnar Wolf@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 20:20:01 2022
    Alberto Salvia Novella dijo [Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 05:48:50PM +0100]:
    Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
    the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.

    Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm sorry I'm no longer interested.

    Nobody will force you to volunteer your time to Debian.

    You have been given several replies as to why your registration has
    not succeeded, and ways forward as to how to proceed. If you are
    already fed up with us and don't want to follow the suggestions given
    by other Debian volunteers, well... the free software world is quite
    wide, and I'm sure you will find other groups with whom to
    collaborate.

    If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
    reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
    will be able to get your account created.

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  • From Vincent Bernat@21:1/5 to Gunnar Wolf on Fri Nov 4 21:40:01 2022
    On 2022-11-04 20:11, Gunnar Wolf wrote:

    Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
    the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now
    asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list. >>
    Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm >> sorry I'm no longer interested.

    Nobody will force you to volunteer your time to Debian.

    You have been given several replies as to why your registration has
    not succeeded, and ways forward as to how to proceed. If you are
    already fed up with us and don't want to follow the suggestions given
    by other Debian volunteers, well... the free software world is quite
    wide, and I'm sure you will find other groups with whom to
    collaborate.

    If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
    reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
    will be able to get your account created.

    It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on IRC
    again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?

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  • From Antonio Terceiro@21:1/5 to Vincent Bernat on Fri Nov 4 23:30:01 2022
    On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 09:33:04PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
    On 2022-11-04 20:11, Gunnar Wolf wrote:

    Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.

    Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm
    sorry I'm no longer interested.

    Nobody will force you to volunteer your time to Debian.

    You have been given several replies as to why your registration has
    not succeeded, and ways forward as to how to proceed. If you are
    already fed up with us and don't want to follow the suggestions given
    by other Debian volunteers, well... the free software world is quite
    wide, and I'm sure you will find other groups with whom to
    collaborate.

    If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
    reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
    will be able to get your account created.

    It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on IRC again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?

    He just came to IRC, said "I liked to join Salsa" and left 20 minutes
    later". That's not very useful.

    Alberto, please register again. Now that we know that there is Alberto
    that is a real person, but has a spammer-looking email address, we can
    approve your account.

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  • From Joerg Jaspert@21:1/5 to Luna Jernberg on Fri Nov 4 23:30:01 2022
    On 16670 March 1977, Luna Jernberg wrote:

    i think i use Gmail on my Salsa account, is it advised to change the
    email to another provider if you already have an account?

    Well. No, you have your account. That is, your registration did not
    appear like one of the trillion spam ones we get.
    You do have your account on salsa, there is nothing now blocking you, so
    keep your gmail. Feel free to add other email addresses, gitlab allows
    that, and in many cases it makes sense to have more than just one there.
    But that's independent of registration.


    *Personally*, I think you can't leave gmail any second to early. The
    faster, the better. But that doesn't aaffect your salsa access at all.
    :)

    --
    bye, Joerg

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  • From Alberto Salvia Novella@21:1/5 to Joerg Jaspert on Sat Nov 5 00:20:01 2022
    Okay, we did it! Finally the account was activated.

    That said my email is like that because it's my national identity number, signed by my government.

    https://es20490446e.wordpress.com/signature/

    On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 23:30, Joerg Jaspert <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 16672 March 1977, Vincent Bernat wrote:

    If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
    reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
    will be able to get your account created.
    It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on
    IRC
    again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?

    He was on IRC, for about twenty minutes, somewhere during the day. Luck
    had it, it was at a time none of us was active.

    Now, Thomas told him to retry, by now his spammy looking mail address
    ought to be known by us. If that comes combined with the name, I'm sure
    it would work out, multiple of us admins now know that combination.
    Haven't seen it yet, the last two days. (If it is only the mail, and the
    name is not like the one here, but some random stuff, I'm not sure it
    will be recognized. Not saying Alberto is doing that, but some real
    random Text for name and mail addresses in exactly his schema is what spambots like to use).

    --
    bye, Joerg


    <div dir="ltr"><div>Okay, we did it! Finally the account was activated.<br></div><div><br></div><div>That said my email is like that because it&#39;s my national identity number, signed by my government.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://
    es20490446e.wordpress.com/signature/">https://es20490446e.wordpress.com/signature/</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 23:30, Joerg Jaspert &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">joerg@debian.
    org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 16672 March 1977, Vincent Bernat wrote:<br>

    &gt;&gt; If you are willing to accomodate to Debian&#39;s reasons (that is, the<br>
    &gt;&gt; reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you<br>
    &gt;&gt; will be able to get your account created.<br>
    &gt; It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on <br> &gt; IRC <br>
    &gt; again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?<br>

    He was on IRC, for about twenty minutes, somewhere during the day. Luck<br>
    had it, it was at a time none of us was active.<br>

    Now, Thomas told him to retry, by now his spammy looking mail address<br>
    ought to be known by us. If that comes combined with the name, I&#39;m sure<br> it would work out, multiple of us admins now know that combination.<br> Haven&#39;t seen it yet, the last two days. (If it is only the mail, and the<br>
    name is not like the one here, but some random stuff, I&#39;m not sure it<br> will be recognized. Not saying Alberto is doing that, but some real<br>
    random Text for name and mail addresses in exactly his schema is what<br> spambots like to use).<br>

    -- <br>
    bye, Joerg<br>
    </blockquote></div>

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