• Re: PSA Wireless earbuds allow tracking & eavesdropping

    From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Mon Aug 4 18:24:50 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-04 16:31, Marion wrote:
    Saw this in the news today, where those whose phones lack basic
    functionality might want to consider the resulting courageous loss
    of privacy (which you have no way of recovering from).

    I guess it's courageous to be hacked & tracked...

    *One more reason to stick with wired earbuds?*

    <https://
    www.techradar.com/audio/earbuds-airpods/one-more-reason-to-stick- with-wired-earbuds-kamala-harris-warns-im-just-telling-you-thats-a- little-bit-more-secure-than-wireless-earbuds-after-her-experience-in- intelligence-briefings>

    "Kamala Harris warns I'm just telling you
    that it is a little bit more secure than wireless earbuds after her experience in intelligence briefings"

    "The former Vice President doesn't trust wireless headphones, and
    she's got good reason not to."

    "Vulnerabilities have been found in many big-name products."
    "Security risk is very very low, but it's not zero."

    "As she explained: I have been in classified briefings and I'm
    telling you, don't be on the train using your AirPods thinking
    someone can't listen to your conversation."

    "The risks from wireless devices aren't just interception. For
    example, the UK's Ministry of Justice notes that Bluetooth devices
    can be used to track someone's location."

    Via the wireless earbud signals, hackers can track you, listen to
    your conversations, hack into your phone, and gain complete access
    to all your trusted devices.

    ADDITIONAL REFERENCES: <https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/ news/2025/07/bluetooth-vulnerability-in-audio-devices-can-be- exploited-to-spy-on-users>

    Where they don't list a single Apple device as being vulnerable.


    <https://cybersecuritynews.com/bluetooth-
    vulnerabilities/>

    Where Apple isn't named among the manufactures whose devices are vulnerable.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 5 12:53:05 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05 03:24, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-04 16:31, Marion wrote:
    Saw this in the news today, where those whose phones lack basic
    functionality might want to consider the resulting courageous loss
    of privacy (which you have no way of recovering from).

    I guess it's courageous to be hacked & tracked...

    *One more reason to stick with wired earbuds?*

    <https://
    www.techradar.com/audio/earbuds-airpods/one-more-reason-to-stick-
    with-wired-earbuds-kamala-harris-warns-im-just-telling-you-thats-a-
    little-bit-more-secure-than-wireless-earbuds-after-her-experience-in-
    intelligence-briefings>

    "Kamala Harris warns I'm just telling you
    that it is a little bit more secure than wireless earbuds after her
    experience in intelligence briefings"

    "The former Vice President doesn't trust wireless headphones, and
    she's got good reason not to."

    "Vulnerabilities have been found in many big-name products." "Security
    risk is very very low, but it's not zero."

    "As she explained: I have been in classified briefings and I'm
    telling you, don't be on the train using your AirPods thinking
    someone can't listen to your conversation."

    "The risks from wireless devices aren't just interception. For
    example, the UK's Ministry of Justice notes that Bluetooth devices
    can be used to track someone's location."

    Via the wireless earbud signals, hackers can track you, listen to
    your conversations, hack into your phone, and gain complete access
    to all your trusted devices.

    ADDITIONAL REFERENCES: <https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/
    news/2025/07/bluetooth-vulnerability-in-audio-devices-can-be-
    exploited-to-spy-on-users>

    Where they don't list a single Apple device as being vulnerable.

    But if you are using an iPhone and one of the currently known affected
    BT earphones or earbuds, you are vulnerable.




    <https://cybersecuritynews.com/bluetooth-
    vulnerabilities/>

    Where Apple isn't named among the manufactures whose devices are
    vulnerable.


    --
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Tue Aug 5 13:16:35 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05, Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2025-08-05 03:24, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-04 16:31, Marion wrote:
    Saw this in the news today, where those whose phones lack basic
    functionality might want to consider the resulting courageous loss
    of privacy (which you have no way of recovering from).

    I guess it's courageous to be hacked & tracked...

    Apple's AirPods are unaffected.

    *One more reason to stick with wired earbuds?*

    Or just stick with your AirPods.

    ADDITIONAL REFERENCES: <https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/
    news/2025/07/bluetooth-vulnerability-in-audio-devices-can-be-
    exploited-to-spy-on-users>

    Where they don't list a single Apple device as being vulnerable.

    But if you are using an iPhone and one of the currently known affected
    BT earphones or earbuds, you are vulnerable.

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're fine.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Marion on Tue Aug 5 19:49:23 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 13:16:35 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    Where they don't list a single Apple device as being vulnerable.

    But if you are using an iPhone and one of the currently known
    affected BT earphones or earbuds, you are vulnerable.

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're fine.

    Are you confident

    Very. This vulnerability does not affect AirPods. And you *hate* this
    fact.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Marion on Tue Aug 5 21:50:16 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 19:49:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're fine.

    Are you confident

    Very. This vulnerability does not affect AirPods. And you *hate* this
    fact.

    Blah blah blah blah

    Nothing you can say will change the FACT that this vulnerability DOES
    NOT affect Airpods, little Arlen. And you *HATE* that FACT with every
    fiber of your tortured inconsequential being. Squirm, little worm! 🤣

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Aug 6 00:37:40 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05 23:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 19:49:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're fine.

    Are you confident

    Very. This vulnerability does not affect AirPods. And you *hate* this
    fact.

    Blah blah blah blah

    Nothing you can say will change the FACT that this vulnerability DOES
    NOT affect Airpods, little Arlen. And you *HATE* that FACT with every
    fiber of your tortured inconsequential being. Squirm, little worm! 🤣


    Nobody said *this* vulnerability affects airpods. But it does affect
    iphones using other earphones or ear things. And those will be a lot of
    people.

    Now just accept that nicely, don't grab at straws, or you will be as bad
    as him.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Tue Aug 5 16:05:21 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05 15:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-05 23:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 19:49:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're fine.

    Are you confident

    Very. This vulnerability does not affect AirPods. And you *hate* this
    fact.

    Blah blah blah blah

    Nothing you can say will change the FACT that this vulnerability DOES
    NOT affect Airpods, little Arlen. And you *HATE* that FACT with every
    fiber of your tortured inconsequential being. Squirm, little worm! 🤣


    Nobody said *this* vulnerability affects airpods. But it does affect
    iphones using other earphones or ear things. And those will be a lot of people.

    Now just accept that nicely, don't grab at straws, or you will be as bad
    as him.


    Please note that Arlen didn't mention that AirPods aren't affected by this.

    'Via the wireless earbud signals, hackers can track you,
    listen to your conversations, hack into your phone, and
    gain complete access to all your trusted devices.'

    And he said:

    'I guess it's courageous to be hacked & tracked...'

    Which is his dog whistle about Apple devices.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Wed Aug 6 16:15:48 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05, Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2025-08-05 23:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 19:49:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're
    fine.

    Are you confident

    Very. This vulnerability does not affect AirPods. And you *hate*
    this fact.

    Blah blah blah blah

    Nothing you can say will change the FACT that this vulnerability DOES
    NOT affect Airpods, little Arlen. And you *HATE* that FACT with every
    fiber of your tortured inconsequential being. Squirm, little worm! 🤣

    Nobody said *this* vulnerability affects airpods.

    Nobody claimed anyone said it.

    Now just accept that nicely

    Follow your own advice.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 6 16:17:02 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-08-05 15:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-05 23:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 19:49:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    AirPods aren't vulnerable though. So if you use them, you're
    fine.

    Are you confident

    Very. This vulnerability does not affect AirPods. And you *hate*
    this fact.

    Blah blah blah blah

    Nothing you can say will change the FACT that this vulnerability
    DOES NOT affect Airpods, little Arlen. And you *HATE* that FACT with
    every fiber of your tortured inconsequential being. Squirm, little
    worm! 🤣


    Nobody said *this* vulnerability affects airpods. But it does affect
    iphones using other earphones or ear things. And those will be a lot
    of people.

    Now just accept that nicely, don't grab at straws, or you will be as
    bad as him.

    Please note that Arlen didn't mention that AirPods aren't affected by
    this.

    'Via the wireless earbud signals, hackers can track you, listen to
    your conversations, hack into your phone, and gain complete access to
    all your trusted devices.'

    And he said:

    'I guess it's courageous to be hacked & tracked...'

    Which is his dog whistle about Apple devices.

    Carlos wants us to just ignore that part. Otherwise we are supposedly
    "as bad as him". 😉

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Marion on Wed Aug 6 16:18:35 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-05, Marion <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Aug 2025 21:50:16 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

    Nothing you can say will change the FACT that this vulnerability DOES
    NOT affect Airpods. And you *HATE* that FACT with every fiber of your
    tortured inconsequential being. Squirm, little worm!

    Wow. Thanks for the passion you have for defending Apple to the death!

    You *HATE* the fact that this vulnerability doesn't affect AirPods.
    Seethe, little Arlen! 🤣

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Wed Aug 6 11:00:20 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-08-06 10:41, Marion wrote:
    On 6 Aug 2025 16:18:35 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


    Wow. Thanks for the passion you have for defending Apple to the death!

    You *HATE* the fact that this vulnerability doesn't affect AirPods.

    It's interesting how you Apple trolls are defending your beloved AirPods to the death - even though nobody ever said this particular CVE affects them.

    We said past CVE's affected them; & predicted future CVE's will too.
    And we showed proof that Apple has never tested much of their own code.

    Nope. You have never once shown any such proof.

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