For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations
are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has
been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has
not moved.
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations
are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has
been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has
not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing
away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting. >Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for >other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try >leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:51:39 +0000, Scott
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:32 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations
are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has
been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has
not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing >>>away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting. >>>Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for >>>other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try >>>leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes.
I'll do that, thanks. The problem is that it's a silly little bedside
radio with limited data. The oddity is that it has never happened
before.
My silly little bedside DAB/FM radio frequently forgets itself and the
DAB signal wanders off somewhere while the FM section carries on
working. A Factory Reset always sorts it out though it is necessary to
retune all the stations afterwards.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:16:18 +0000, Nick Odell <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:51:39 +0000, Scott
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:32 +0000, Woody <[email protected]> >>wrote:
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations >>>> are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has
been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has >>>> not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing >>>away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting. >>>Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for >>>other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try >>>leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes.
I'll do that, thanks. The problem is that it's a silly little bedside >>radio with limited data. The oddity is that it has never happened
before.
My silly little bedside DAB/FM radio frequently forgets itself and the
DAB signal wanders off somewhere while the FM section carries on
working. A Factory Reset always sorts it out though it is necessary to >retune all the stations afterwards.
I can see that but the BBC is okay so I am blaming Arqiva at the
moment for this one.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:32 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations
are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has
been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has
not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing >>away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting. >>Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for >>other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try >>leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes.
I'll do that, thanks. The problem is that it's a silly little bedside
radio with limited data. The oddity is that it has never happened
before.
charles <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:16:18 +0000, Nick Odell <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:51:39 +0000, ScottI can see that but the BBC is okay so I am blaming Arqiva at the
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:32 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:I'll do that, thanks. The problem is that it's a silly little bedside >>>>> radio with limited data. The oddity is that it has never happened
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations >>>>>>> are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has >>>>>>> been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has >>>>>>> not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing >>>>>> away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting. >>>>>> Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for >>>>>> other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try >>>>>> leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes. >>>>>
before.
My silly little bedside DAB/FM radio frequently forgets itself and the >>>> DAB signal wanders off somewhere while the FM section carries on
working. A Factory Reset always sorts it out though it is necessary to >>>> retune all the stations afterwards.
moment for this one.
remind me: who provides the BBC transmitters?
Digital One seems to have the same number of transmitters as the BBC MUX in the Glasgow area, where I believe the op resides. Classic FM is now on
DAB+. I’m uncertain as to whether this is less robust to a weak signal than plain old DAB.
In article <[email protected]>,
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:16:18 +0000, Nick Odell <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:51:39 +0000, ScottI can see that but the BBC is okay so I am blaming Arqiva at the
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:32 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:I'll do that, thanks. The problem is that it's a silly little bedside
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations
are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has
been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has
not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing >> >>>away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting.
Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for >> >>>other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try >> >>>leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes. >> >>
radio with limited data. The oddity is that it has never happened
before.
My silly little bedside DAB/FM radio frequently forgets itself and the
DAB signal wanders off somewhere while the FM section carries on
working. A Factory Reset always sorts it out though it is necessary to
retune all the stations afterwards.
moment for this one.
remind me: who provides the BBC transmitters?
On 18/03/2025 12:09, Tweed wrote:
charles <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:16:18 +0000, Nick Odell <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:51:39 +0000, ScottI can see that but the BBC is okay so I am blaming Arqiva at the
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:32 +0000, Woody <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:
On Mon 17/03/2025 20:52, Scott wrote:I'll do that, thanks. The problem is that it's a silly little bedside >>>>>> radio with limited data. The oddity is that it has never happened
For three nights, on my bedside radio alarm Classic on DAB is
oscillating between 'Classic FM' and 'Unavailable'. The BBC stations >>>>>>>> are okay. Could there be a problem with Digital One? Reception has >>>>>>>> been okay for over a year until this occurred. The aerial (wire) has >>>>>>>> not moved.
AFAIK most DAB transmissions in the UK are on directional aerials facing
away from the RoI, so it could be you are just on the edge of muting. >>>>>>> Remember there are many fewer transmitters of Classic then there are for
other national stations.
If you go into the menu you should find a signal indication display. Try
leaving the radio on that display and see how the signal level changes. >>>>>>
before.
My silly little bedside DAB/FM radio frequently forgets itself and the >>>>> DAB signal wanders off somewhere while the FM section carries on
working. A Factory Reset always sorts it out though it is necessary to >>>>> retune all the stations afterwards.
moment for this one.
remind me: who provides the BBC transmitters?
Digital One seems to have the same number of transmitters as the BBC MUX in >> the Glasgow area, where I believe the op resides. Classic FM is now on
DAB+. I�m uncertain as to whether this is less robust to a weak signal than >> plain old DAB.
All else being equal, DAB+ is slightly more robust than DAB.
The main DAB transmitter for Glasgow is actually at Kirk'O Shotts for
the BBC, D1 (LBC, Classic FM etc) and the regional Central Scotland muxes.
They all share the same antenna >https://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=1182&pageid=4449
The SDL Mux (aka D2 Jazz FM, Times Radio etc) is at Black Hill (along
with TV and FM Radio)
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
Some <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux >exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
Some <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux
exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have
not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty
then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio: https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the
high cost, would you recommend it?
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:Though I�ve just noticed that it has been discontinued :(
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]>I have this
wrote:
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it >>>>> comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
Some <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux >>>> exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have
not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty
then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio:
https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the
high cost, would you recommend it?
https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix-2#stream94
It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved to presets just like >> ones that use radio waves. There�s a whole world of advert free classical
stations out there.
On 18/03/2025 21:57, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it >>>> comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
Some <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux
exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have
not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty
then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
I don't think so, have a read of this ><https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2476108/pure-dab-radio-tech-fault#latest>
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio:
https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the
high cost, would you recommend it?
I've had a Ruark radio for our kitchen for about 10 years, it's very
nice (it's about the only thing I could get acceptance from SWIMBO to
buy). A bit deaf using its own telescopic aerial, but I connected it to
a proper roof aerial anyway.
<https://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/audio-systems/ruark-audio-r2-mk3-1328801/review>
However, for the last five years we've had an Alexa sat on top of it,
feeding the Aux Audio input. Its own internal DAB/FM tuner hasn't been
used since that day.
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:47:58 -0000 (UTC), TweedCould you perhaps place it next to your misbehaving radio and see how it >copes with Classic FM on DAB?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:Though I?ve just noticed that it has been discontinued :(
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]>I have this
wrote:
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it >>>>>>> comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
Some <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux >>>>>> exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have >>>>> not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty
then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio: >>>>> https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the
high cost, would you recommend it?
https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix-2#stream94
It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved to presets just like
ones that use radio waves. There?s a whole world of advert free classical >>>> stations out there.
I have this in my kitchen and, yes, it works exceptionally well.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:42:20 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:47:58 -0000 (UTC), TweedCould you perhaps place it next to your misbehaving radio and see how it >copes with Classic FM on DAB?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when it
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations?
Some <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux >>>>>> exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have >>>>> not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty >>>>> then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio: >>>>> https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the >>>>> high cost, would you recommend it?
I have this > > >>>https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix- >>>2#stream94 > > It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved >>>to presets just like > ones that use radio waves. There?s a whole world >>>of advert free classical > stations out there. > Though I?ve just >>>noticed that it has been discontinued :(
I have this in my kitchen and, yes, it works exceptionally well.
I'm thinking that. I also have a Sony pocket radio (also discontinued)
which I can try.
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:42:20 -0000 (UTC), TweedAlso, when you say nothing has changed with your misbehaving radio, are you >certain you haven�t moved the antenna? A few inches can make all the >difference.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:47:58 -0000 (UTC), TweedCould you perhaps place it next to your misbehaving radio and see how it >>> copes with Classic FM on DAB?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:Though I?ve just noticed that it has been discontinued :(
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:I have this
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when itSome <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux >>>>>>>> exceeds 20
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations? >>>>>>>>
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have >>>>>>> not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty >>>>>>> then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio: >>>>>>> https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the >>>>>>> high cost, would you recommend it?
https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix-2#stream94
It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved to presets just like
ones that use radio waves. There?s a whole world of advert free classical
stations out there.
I have this in my kitchen and, yes, it works exceptionally well.
I'm thinking that. I also have a Sony pocket radio (also discontinued)
which I can try.
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:40:43 -0000 (UTC), TweedNot exactly the same frequency though.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:42:20 -0000 (UTC), TweedAlso, when you say nothing has changed with your misbehaving radio, are you >>> certain you haven?t moved the antenna? A few inches can make all the
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:47:58 -0000 (UTC), TweedCould you perhaps place it next to your misbehaving radio and see how it >>>>> copes with Classic FM on DAB?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:Though I?ve just noticed that it has been discontinued :(
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote:I have this
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when itSome <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations? >>>>>>>>>>
exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have >>>>>>>>> not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty >>>>>>>>> then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio:
https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the >>>>>>>>> high cost, would you recommend it?
https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix-2#stream94
It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved to presets just like
ones that use radio waves. There?s a whole world of advert free classical
stations out there.
I have this in my kitchen and, yes, it works exceptionally well.
I'm thinking that. I also have a Sony pocket radio (also discontinued) >>>> which I can try.
difference.
I'll check that but I understand from Mark that BBC and Classic come
from the same transmitter. BBC remains okay.
On 19/03/2025 12:58, Scott wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:40:43 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:42:20 -0000 (UTC), TweedAlso, when you say nothing has changed with your misbehaving radio, are you >>> certain you haven�t moved the antenna? A few inches can make all the
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:47:58 -0000 (UTC), TweedCould you perhaps place it next to your misbehaving radio and see how it >>>>> copes with Classic FM on DAB?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:Though I?ve just noticed that it has been discontinued :(
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote:I have this
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when itSome <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations? >>>>>>>>>>
exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have >>>>>>>>> not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty >>>>>>>>> then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio:
https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the >>>>>>>>> high cost, would you recommend it?
https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix-2#stream94
It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved to presets just like
ones that use radio waves. There?s a whole world of advert free classical
stations out there.
I have this in my kitchen and, yes, it works exceptionally well.
I'm thinking that. I also have a Sony pocket radio (also discontinued) >>>> which I can try.
difference.
I'll check that but I understand from Mark that BBC and Classic come
from the same transmitter. BBC remains okay.
If it's only Classic FM being affected, and the other stations on the D1
mux are OK, then it's not an RF/Reception problem, but rather the radio
is getting confused by the SI tables
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:40:43 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:42:20 -0000 (UTC), TweedAlso, when you say nothing has changed with your misbehaving radio, are you >> certain you haven’t moved the antenna? A few inches can make all the
<[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:47:58 -0000 (UTC), TweedCould you perhaps place it next to your misbehaving radio and see how it >>>> copes with Classic FM on DAB?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tweed <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:Though I?ve just noticed that it has been discontinued :(
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:52:26 +0000, Mark Carver <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote:I have this
On 18/03/2025 20:07, Scott wrote:
What is your theory to explain how a small radio can be faulty when itSome <cough> lesser radios have problems when the station list per mux
comes to Digital One stations but not faulty for BBC stations? >>>>>>>>>
exceeds 20
https://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html?PageSpeed=off
Okay, thanks, but it has worked without issue for over a year, I have >>>>>>>> not rescanned recently and it finds the station without difficulty >>>>>>>> then loses it again. To my mind the signal is to blame.
As a matter of interest, have you looked at the Ruark R1S smart radio: >>>>>>>> https://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/r1s-smart-radio Apart from the >>>>>>>> high cost, would you recommend it?
https://www.robertsradio.com/en-gb/internet-radios/no-title-please-fix-2#stream94
It works very well. The Internet stations can be saved to presets just like
ones that use radio waves. There?s a whole world of advert free classical
stations out there.
I have this in my kitchen and, yes, it works exceptionally well.
I'm thinking that. I also have a Sony pocket radio (also discontinued)
which I can try.
difference.
I'll check that but I understand from Mark that BBC and Classic come
from the same transmitter. BBC remains okay.
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I
tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0.
I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I
tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0.
I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
In article <[email protected]>,
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now
thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I
tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0.
I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still
testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
Have you moved any metallic object in the room, or in a neighbouring one? >Anything in the loft?
On Mon 24/03/2025 09:43, Scott wrote:
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now
thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I
tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0.
I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still
testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
Note that ALL DAB transmissions in the UK are vertically polarised.
Also Classic is broadcast by SDL so it is no use looking at BBC data.
charles <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now
thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I
tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0.
I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still
testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
Have you moved any metallic object in the room, or in a neighbouring one?
Anything in the loft?
There�s a number of DAB transmitters in Glasgow. As we know, a DAB receiver >can take advantage of receiving signals from multiple transmitters by
summing them. Perhaps the OP�s receiver was receiving multiple signals, and >now one of them is either off air or unwell. I�m no transmission expert,
but I believe the summing aspect requires the transmitters to run locked to
a common phase source. Perhaps one is now unlocked. Moving the antenna to >horizontal polarisation might perhaps be attenuating the errant tx?
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:00:49 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 24/03/2025 09:43, Scott wrote:
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now
thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I
tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0.
I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still
testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
Note that ALL DAB transmissions in the UK are vertically polarised.
Also Classic is broadcast by SDL so it is no use looking at BBC data.
Okay, I didn't realise that. I was thinking that both come from the
same antenna at Blackhill, but I suppose there are other transmitters
to consider.
On Mon 24/03/2025 14:29, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:00:49 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 24/03/2025 09:43, Scott wrote:
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now >>>> thickens.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I >>>> tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count
of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0. >>>> I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as
okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still
testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio.
Note that ALL DAB transmissions in the UK are vertically polarised.
Also Classic is broadcast by SDL so it is no use looking at BBC data.
Okay, I didn't realise that. I was thinking that both come from the
same antenna at Blackhill, but I suppose there are other transmitters
to consider.
Classic is now DAB+ and transmits in the central belt from:-
Selkirk
Darvel Ayr and Kilmarnock
Craigkelly Edinburgh
Kirk O'Shotts Glasgow/Stathclyde
Earl's Hill Stirling
Braid Hills South of Edinburgh
Sergeant's Law Glasgow/Paisley
Rosneath Helensburgh
Glasgow William St/Hilton
Classic is NOT transmitted from Black Hill.
Good luck.
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:42:28 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 24/03/2025 14:29, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:00:49 +0000, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon 24/03/2025 09:43, Scott wrote:
Thanks for all the informed comments and suggestions, but the plot now >>>>> thickens.Note that ALL DAB transmissions in the UK are vertically polarised.
This morning DAB reception of Radio 4 was pretty pad (bubbling mud). I >>>>> tried my Roberts radio (albeit in the another room) and found on
Classic FM when the aerial was vertical I was getting an error count >>>>> of about 22 but when the aerial was horizontal errors were close to 0. >>>>> I looked at BBC reception and the three transmitters are reported as >>>>> okay. Could this be something to do with one component of the
polarisation?
The bedroom radio seems okay with the aerial horizonal but I am still >>>>> testing.
I stress that until about two weeks ago the bedroom radio worked
perfectly with no issues. Nothing that I can think of has changed
here. I am mystified. I now cannot see it being internal to the radio. >>>>
Also Classic is broadcast by SDL so it is no use looking at BBC data.
Okay, I didn't realise that. I was thinking that both come from the
same antenna at Blackhill, but I suppose there are other transmitters
to consider.
Classic is now DAB+ and transmits in the central belt from:-
Selkirk
Darvel Ayr and Kilmarnock
Craigkelly Edinburgh
Kirk O'Shotts Glasgow/Stathclyde
Earl's Hill Stirling
Braid Hills South of Edinburgh
Sergeant's Law Glasgow/Paisley
Rosneath Helensburgh
Glasgow William St/Hilton
Classic is NOT transmitted from Black Hill.
Good luck.
Thanks. My mistake. I was thinking of Kirk O'Shotts (they are nearby).
BBC Reception shows three transmitters: Sergeant Law, Kirk O'Shotts
and Blackhill. I assume Blackhill relates to Radio Scotland (local multiplex). I assume the others are out of range for my postcode.
Thanks. My mistake. I was thinking of Kirk O'Shotts (they are nearby).
BBC Reception shows three transmitters: Sergeant Law, Kirk O'Shotts
and Blackhill. I assume Blackhill relates to Radio Scotland (local multiplex). I assume the others are out of range for my postcode.
Also Classic is broadcast by SDL so it is no use looking at BBC data.
On 24/03/2025 17:40, Scott wrote:
Thanks. My mistake. I was thinking of Kirk O'Shotts (they are nearby).
BBC Reception shows three transmitters: Sergeant Law, Kirk O'Shotts
and Blackhill. I assume Blackhill relates to Radio Scotland (local
multiplex). I assume the others are out of range for my postcode.
BBC, D1, and the Central Scotland Mux (that carries BBC Radio Scotland)
are at KoS. SDL is at Black Hill. Don't get too bogged down, they are
next door to each other, so no significant differences in coverage
No different to London where DAB muxes and local FM is spread between
Crystal Palace and Croydon
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