• OT: theremin without arduino?

    From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 11:44:20 2024
    Sometimes, I put just "theremin" in eBay's search box.

    The first many tens of hits appear to be the same device (though costing
    from 45.90 [if I specify UK only] to 76.75!); however, many (though not
    all) include the words "for Arduino" in the description.

    Are these stand-alone instruments, or an accessory that needs to be
    connected to an Arduino to work? Or do they _contain_ an Arduino? Of
    course, the descriptions don't make it clear.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Sat Jun 29 11:08:03 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    J. P. Gilliver <[email protected]> wrote:
    Sometimes, I put just "theremin" in eBay's search box.

    The first many tens of hits appear to be the same device (though costing
    from 45.90 [if I specify UK only] to 76.75!); however, many (though not
    all) include the words "for Arduino" in the description.

    Are these stand-alone instruments, or an accessory that needs to be
    connected to an Arduino to work? Or do they _contain_ an Arduino? Of
    course, the descriptions don't make it clear.

    the Theramin was demonstrated to us, at school, in the 1950s. This was long before the Arduino was even thought about.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t�
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to charles on Sat Jun 29 12:59:41 2024
    In message <[email protected]> at Sat, 29 Jun 2024
    11:08:03, charles <[email protected]> writes
    In article <[email protected]>,
    J. P. Gilliver <[email protected]> wrote:
    Sometimes, I put just "theremin" in eBay's search box.

    The first many tens of hits appear to be the same device (though costing
    from 45.90 [if I specify UK only] to 76.75!); however, many (though not
    all) include the words "for Arduino" in the description.

    Are these stand-alone instruments, or an accessory that needs to be
    connected to an Arduino to work? Or do they _contain_ an Arduino? Of
    course, the descriptions don't make it clear.

    the Theramin was demonstrated to us, at school, in the 1950s. This was long >before the Arduino was even thought about.

    Yes, I know - it was invented in the 1920s, by Leon Theremin, a Russian; there's a very nice "Swan" on a 90-year-old one (in 2019) at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faf0XBkBYeQ> (which I think sounds very
    like a cello, unlike her usual instrument).

    But the ones on eBay mostly say "for Arduino", so I'm wondering if they
    _are_ just an Arduino add-on, or standalone. As I say, their
    descriptions aren't clear (mostly not even mentioning Arduino).
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Anyone can do any amount of work provided it isn't the work he is supposed to be doing at the moment. -Robert Benchley, humorist, drama critic, and actor (1889-1945)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Sat Jun 29 13:16:41 2024
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    But the ones on eBay mostly say "for Arduino", so I'm wondering if they
    are just an Arduino add-on, or standalone.

    If I search eBay for "theremin" there's no mention of "arduino" in the
    results, it's only if I search for "theremin arduino" that I get results mentioning "theremin for arduino" ...

    They mostly seem to be the same item, given it has an onboard speaker,
    I'd say it could be played as-is?

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sat Jun 29 14:54:58 2024
    On 29/06/2024 13:16, Andy Burns wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    But the ones on eBay mostly say "for Arduino", so I'm wondering if
    they are just an Arduino add-on, or standalone.

    If I search eBay for "theremin" there's no mention of "arduino" in the results, it's only if I search for "theremin arduino" that I get results mentioning "theremin for arduino" ...

    They mostly seem to be the same item, given it has an onboard speaker,
    I'd say it could be played as-is?

    The homebuild version of the Arduino theremin I have found uses
    ultrasonic sensors and a program in the Arduino to detect the player's
    hand locations,and uses that information to control a voltage controlled oscillator and amplifier on the "Theremin" circuit board.

    https://www.instructables.com/Arduino-Theremin-With-Variable-Pitch-and-Volume/

    With seven transistors and few other bits, you can build a proper,
    analogue theremin.

    https://www.theremin.us/144/144.htm
    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to charles on Sat Jun 29 22:10:15 2024
    On 29/06/2024 12:08, charles wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    J. P. Gilliver <[email protected]> wrote:
    Sometimes, I put just "theremin" in eBay's search box.

    The first many tens of hits appear to be the same device (though costing
    from 45.90 [if I specify UK only] to 76.75!); however, many (though not
    all) include the words "for Arduino" in the description.

    Are these stand-alone instruments, or an accessory that needs to be
    connected to an Arduino to work? Or do they _contain_ an Arduino? Of
    course, the descriptions don't make it clear.

    the Theramin was demonstrated to us, at school, in the 1950s. This was long before the Arduino was even thought about.

    The distinctive wailing sound of a Theremin is the main instrument in
    the title music of "Midsomer Murders".

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Sat Jun 29 21:19:15 2024
    In message <[email protected]> at Sat, 29 Jun 2024
    14:54:58, John Williamson <[email protected]> writes
    On 29/06/2024 13:16, Andy Burns wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    But the ones on eBay mostly say "for Arduino", so I'm wondering if
    they are just an Arduino add-on, or standalone.

    If I search eBay for "theremin" there's no mention of "arduino" in the
    results, it's only if I search for "theremin arduino" that I get results
    mentioning "theremin for arduino" ...

    I noticed - rather odd! - that if I just put theremin in, with whatever defaults eBay has for me, about 90% (of the identical-looking units,
    anyway) have Arduino in the description. If I specified UK only,
    however, the same units showed up, but with few or none having Arduino
    in the description.

    They mostly seem to be the same item, given it has an onboard speaker,
    I'd say it could be played as-is?

    Yes, they do _look_ that way. They seem to have a little screen.

    The homebuild version of the Arduino theremin I have found uses
    ultrasonic sensors and a program in the Arduino to detect the player's
    hand locations,and uses that information to control a voltage
    controlled oscillator and amplifier on the "Theremin" circuit board.

    https://www.instructables.com/Arduino-Theremin-With-Variable-Pitch-and-Volume/

    Yes, that definitely needs an Arduino. I'm surprised at the ultrasonic
    means: I would have thought a capacitive sensor would be simpler.
    (Though it does look as if they're using pre-made ultrasonic modules,
    which might make it of similar complexity.)

    With seven transistors and few other bits, you can build a proper,
    analogue theremin.

    https://www.theremin.us/144/144.htm

    Phew, those take me back decades to electronic construction (and circuit description)! I'd willingly make a kit, but those look as if they
    involve too much setting-up (and the implication is they'd drift too
    much) for the patience I have now. I did find among my eBay searches a commercial kit, but that is for only a single-aerial theremin - pitch
    only.

    The prebuilt ones on eBay (the "Arduino" type) are probably what I'd go
    with, if I ever device to get one; they look well designed and made.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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