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  • Re: Another Long Wave station closes

    From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 16:03:55 2022
    On 31/12/2022 15:56, MB wrote:
    From TWITTER

    Chris Greenway
    French national radio station RTL leaves longwave today (its
    transmitter is in Luxembourg).


    Twitter speaks with forked tongue. It's Jan 2nd (Just like 405 line
    telly, can't be switching off things during overtime :-) )

    https://mediumwave.info/2022/12/

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 15:56:13 2022
    From TWITTER

    Chris Greenway
    French national radio station RTL leaves longwave today (its transmitter
    is in Luxembourg).
    This leaves Algeria, Denmark, Iceland, Ireland, Mongolia, Morocco,
    Poland, Romania, Turkmenistan and the UK as still using the LW band.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 17:00:41 2022
    On 31/12/2022 16:49, MB wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 16:03, Mark Carver wrote:
    Twitter speaks with forked tongue. It's Jan 2nd (Just like 405 line
    telly, can't be switching off things during overtime 😄 )



    Though I would have thought that now someone could sit in a nice warm building many miles away and switch them off bang on midnight or even re-programme them to switch off at midnight.  Or even do it from home.

    Yes, you'd think so these days !

    When we turned off the Band I equipment we pulled out any mains plugs
    and pulled the breakers so they were OFF.

    But I don't think we went to all relay stations immediately.

    Wouldn't the relays have shut down anyway (at least the carriers) when
    the main station feeding them died ?

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sat Dec 31 16:49:52 2022
    On 31/12/2022 16:03, Mark Carver wrote:
    Twitter speaks with forked tongue. It's Jan 2nd (Just like 405 line
    telly, can't be switching off things during overtime 😄 )



    Though I would have thought that now someone could sit in a nice warm
    building many miles away and switch them off bang on midnight or even re-programme them to switch off at midnight. Or even do it from home.

    When we turned off the Band I equipment we pulled out any mains plugs
    and pulled the breakers so they were OFF.

    But I don't think we went to all relay stations immediately.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Sat Dec 31 18:09:03 2022
    On 31/12/2022 17:16, John Williamson wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 17:00, Mark Carver wrote:

    Wouldn't the relays have shut down anyway (at least the carriers) when
    the main station feeding them died ?

    Unless they were set to switch to a standby audio feed on loss of signal?

    For a small 405 line TV relay ?

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sat Dec 31 17:16:03 2022
    On 31/12/2022 17:00, Mark Carver wrote:

    Wouldn't the relays have shut down anyway (at least the carriers) when
    the main station feeding them died ?

    Unless they were set to switch to a standby audio feed on loss of signal?

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sat Dec 31 19:31:27 2022
    On 31/12/2022 18:09, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 17:16, John Williamson wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 17:00, Mark Carver wrote:

    Wouldn't the relays have shut down anyway (at least the carriers) when
    the main station feeding them died ?

    Unless they were set to switch to a standby audio feed on loss of signal?

    For a small 405 line TV relay ?
    Sorry, I was still on the long wave.

    The "audio" only implied radio, for 405 lines, I vaguely remember a
    caption as well apologising for the lack of the normal programming when
    there was a problem, though when we were watching 405, we were served by
    a main transmitter site.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sat Dec 31 23:31:12 2022
    On 31/12/2022 17:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    Wouldn't the relays have shut down anyway (at least the carriers) when
    the main station feeding them died ?

    I remember the original VHF FM transposers did not have a reliable mute
    so likely the TV ones were the same especially on Band I with all the
    distance signals to keep them on.

    Long time ago!

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Sat Dec 31 23:35:08 2022
    On 31/12/2022 19:31, John Williamson wrote:
    The "audio" only implied radio, for 405 lines, I vaguely remember a
    caption as well apologising for the lack of the normal programming when
    there was a problem, though when we were watching 405, we were served by
    a main transmitter site.


    The majority of Band I (and III) relays would have closed down when the
    main transmitter were switched off but there was still a chance they
    come back transmitting carrier or noise so best to switch off. A few
    were left for a few days but I think most were switched off quite quickly.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jan 1 09:29:25 2023
    It does seem odd that they want to shut them as for the spoken word, and one transmitter covers a huge area. I can understand that spares will bean
    issue, but long wave AM transmitters are hardly cutting edge are they?


    On a similar issue, no matter where you look in the radio spectrum, there
    are lots of nothingness. It used to be fun to listen on vhf/uhf, now its
    almost empty, and those which do remain are mostly Trunking systems, a kind
    of half way house between analogue and digital
    Short waves are a bit disappoint ment as well.
    Brian
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    From TWITTER

    Chris Greenway
    French national radio station RTL leaves longwave today (its transmitter
    is in Luxembourg).
    This leaves Algeria, Denmark, Iceland, Ireland, Mongolia, Morocco, Poland, Romania, Turkmenistan and the UK as still using the LW band.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sun Jan 1 11:53:09 2023
    On 01/01/2023 11:50, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 16:49, MB wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 16:03, Mark Carver wrote:
    Twitter speaks with forked tongue. It's Jan 2nd (Just like 405 line
    telly, can't be switching off things during overtime 😄 )



    Though I would have thought that now someone could sit in a nice warm
    building many miles away and switch them off bang on midnight or even
    re-programme them to switch off at midnight. Or even do it from home.

    Seems they possibly did, coz this morning it's gone.

    Scrub that, it's still there. My mishtake

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 11:50:27 2023
    On 31/12/2022 16:49, MB wrote:
    On 31/12/2022 16:03, Mark Carver wrote:
    Twitter speaks with forked tongue. It's Jan 2nd (Just like 405 line
    telly, can't be switching off things during overtime 😄 )



    Though I would have thought that now someone could sit in a nice warm building many miles away and switch them off bang on midnight or even re-programme them to switch off at midnight.  Or even do it from home.

    Seems they possibly did, coz this morning it's gone.

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