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  • Re: Police stop drivers flouting Watford General Hospital signs

    From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Feb 20 14:24:42 2024
    On 20/02/2024 13:15, Simon Mason wrote:

    Police have clamped down on drivers ignoring 'no entry' signs at Watford General Hospital - despite confusion over diversion routes.

    Hertfordshire Constabulary says that over the past couple of weeks people had been ignoring the no entry signs on Thomas Sawyer Way, which ensure ambulances have quick and efficient access to the hospital by only allowing emergency vehicles and buses.

    Community support officers had been issuing warnings to motorists flouting the rules, who the force says “may be slowing down a member of the public who is in need of urgent and lifesaving care”.

    Today (March 14), officers were sent to start issuing traffic offence reports to people who still ignore the restrictions, which could lead to a fine or points on the driver’s licence.

    Were they using a time machine?

    If they were, any driver could avoid the penalty by travelling backwards
    in time by the same method and crossing the "No Entry" line before it
    existed.

    JN; 20/02/24

    {And that reminds me - two days to go; unless you have access to the
    same time-machine.]

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Feb 20 18:57:46 2024
    On 20/02/2024 15:28, Simon Mason wrote:

    TRT 15th March 2023 3:00 pm
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    You cannot go from Hagden Lane via Willow Lane onto Thomas Sawyer Way except emergency vehicles and buses.

    That is gibberish.

    May Sun wrote it, obviously.

    There is a no entry sign after the small roundabout there.That won't deter an y fulkly-unquLIFIED CHAV-CYCLKISTS.

    Thomas Sawyer Way was designed purely as an access road to the hospital site plus retail and housing there. In order to protect as much of Oxhey Park North as possible, it was not designed as a through route. This is why it has only two lanes and has
    no pavements. The volume of traffic it was designed to carry over the park is deliberately reduced - this is the reason for the "no left turn" that I'm thinking you are referring to (from Wiggenhall Road onto Thomas Sawyer Way).

    In the event that the road was to be carrying general traffic, it would need at least a wide central lane reserved for blue light traffic to use to get around the queues of traffic that would inevitably build up there. Light control would be needed
    at the Dalton Way junction as well. As it is people perform all manner of unorthodox turns there. You just have to look at Google Streetview dated Sept 2020 (the latest at time of writing) to see one illegal turn and two unorthodox turns. I've stood
    there on a traffic survey more than once - about 15% of all vehicle movements through that junction were unorthodox or illegal.

    An argument could be made that such a high level of malpractice indicates a demand which requires addressing, however there were never the funds to do such work, the modelling for it suggests that it would cause problems elsewhere in the network,
    leading to further expense and disruption.
    In short there are plenty of reasons that the banned turns are banned, and you can't use that bit of emergency vehicle road in either direction, which has been the case from day one.

    Chav-cyclists remonstrating with people they imagine to be breaking the law!

    You couldn't make it up!

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