• Derbyshire cyclist pleads with motorists to take care behind the wheel

    From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 05:49:58 2023
    A Peak District cyclist is pleading with motorists to take more care behind the wheel after she began to document her increasingly frequent near misses and other evidence of dangerous driving, some of which she has passed on to the police.

    Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed)
    Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed)

    Brampton resident Zoe, 53 – her surname withheld due to fear of a backlash – pedals out into the national park on her mountain bike four or five times a week and what used to be an enjoyable way to brush off the cobwebs is now more likely to bring a
    brush with serious injury.

    She said: “There’s a difference from a few years ago. I’m not as relaxed before I go out, I’m just anticipating how many people will put me at risk that day. It isn’t the way it should be.”

    Zoe, who works in manufacturing design, has so far avoided any collisions but puts that down to luck more than anything else.

    She said: “It’s quite rare in cycling circles to get to my age without being knocked off at least once. The majority of other cyclists I have spoken with in the area all have regaled me with tales of being knocked off. I know someone it happened to a
    few weeks ago near Barlow and they ended up in A&E. It makes you very aware how vulnerable you are.

    “The law dictates that drivers should leave about six feet of space when overtaking cyclists at speeds over 30 miles per hour. That feels a bit excessive to me.

    “Anything over three feet I’d probably consider safe but often I’m getting cars pass seven or eight inches from my handlebars at 40-50 mph. It really affects your confidence and willingness to get on the bike.”

    She added: “Most of the time it’s completely avoidable too. If the driver could wait three seconds for a gap in the traffic, or to get past an island in the road, they’d have plenty of space. Other times, it’s people trying to overtake on blind
    bends. I’ve see a few situations close to head-on collisions.

    “A lot of it is down to impatience. People just won’t delay their journey by a few seconds. Other times it feels like some drivers take umbrage with cyclists being on the road and will drive closer to intimidate you. I do think some do it
    intentionally when there is plenty of room to overtake.”

    Such encounters prompted Zoe to buy a handlebar video camera which has allowed her to collect evidence of dangerous driving for possible prosecution.

    Over the past three months alone, she has submitted an estimated 30 clips to the Derbyshire Capture web portal, which allows any road user to have their footage reviewed by police.

    Capture was launched in 2019 as part of a national scheme but Derbyshire Police and Crime Commissioner Angelique Foster increased its local staffing budget last year and that may be paying off.

    In most cases she has submitted, Zoe says the result was a warning letters issued to the driver but at least one case she describes as “terrifying” – involving a lorry loaded with hay – may be headed to court for further action.

    She said: “I’m pleased to see the police responding to it. I think they’re taking these situations more seriously now due to the number of clips being submitted.

    “The first few clips I submitted resulted in no further action, which disheartened me a bit, but it got to the point where something was happening on every ride so I started sending the videos in again. Some rides I won’t see any issues, but I sent
    four videos yesterday alone – the most I’ve ever had from a single ride.”

    She added: “I would love to see more cyclists with cameras on their bikes. There aren’t nearly enough out there that I see.

    “These situations are happening all over the place, and you can’t have cameras everywhere but I think the system could work. Even if it’s just a warning letter, I hope it will make drivers think twice next time they’re out. It should be a
    deterrent.

    “Once the driver in any clip is identified it gets logged on police computers so they can see if they have a history of incidents and, if they have been in trouble before, maybe it’s more likely to proceed to prosecution. I think this will pick out
    the most dangerous offenders on the road.

    Zoe decided to contact the Derbyshire Times with her concerns after a ride around Owler Bar, Baslow and Holmesfield on Monday, October 2, when she spotted three cars which had left the road in a few days prior and were waiting to be removed – which
    felt like another clear sign of deteriorating driver standards.

    She said: “The quality of driving is far worse since Covid lockdowns ended. It was never this bad before. It’s abysmal. If it’s this bad just in this small area what is it like countrywide?

    “I wouldn’t say this is a campaign but it’s simply not safe out there, not just for me but for motorists as well – and I’m a driver myself.”

    A Derbyshire police spokesman said: “We were made aware of an allegation of close pass with a cyclist in Sheffield Road, Baslow on Thursday, August 31 at 7.50am.

    "The victim alleged that a lorry passed close to a cyclist.

    "Footage was submitted to the force and an investigation was launched.

    https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/transport/derbyshire-cyclist-pleads-with-motorists-to-take-care-behind-the-wheel-after-near-miss-video-passed-to-police-4376130”

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 14:29:20 2023
    Simon Mason <[email protected]> wrote:

    A Peak District cyclist is pleading with motorists to take more care
    behind the wheel after she began to document her increasingly frequent
    near misses and other evidence of dangerous driving, some of which she
    has passed on to the police.

    Brampton resident Zoe, 53 – her surname withheld due to fear of a
    backlash – pedals out into the national park on her mountain bike four or five times a week and what used to be an enjoyable way to brush off the cobwebs is now more likely to bring a brush with serious injury.

    https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/transport/derbyshire-cyclist-pleads-with-motorists-to-take-care-behind-the-wheel-after-near-miss-video-passed-to-police-4376130”

    With Derbyshire Police Force Area showing 2000 cases a month of AntiSocial Behaviour and 4000 cases a month of Violence, Zoe, 53, and Derbyshire
    Police, might better concern themselves with more relevant issues than not being hit by a vehicle.

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 15:33:39 2023
    On 18/10/2023 01:49 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A Peak District cyclist is pleading with motorists to take more care behind the wheel after she began to document her increasingly frequent near misses and other evidence of dangerous driving, some of which she has passed on to the police.

    Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed)
    Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed)

    Brampton resident Zoe, 53 – her surname withheld due to fear of a backlash – pedals out into the national park on her mountain bike four or five times a week and what used to be an enjoyable way to brush off the cobwebs is now more likely to bring
    a brush with serious injury.

    She said: “There’s a difference from a few years ago. I’m not as relaxed before I go out, I’m just anticipating how many people will put me at risk that day. It isn’t the way it should be.”

    If Zoe "thinks" that every driver on the road has changed over "a few
    years" and that she hasn't, she should learn to think again. Or more
    likely, to think for the first time.

    The problem, if there is one at all, cannot possibly reside with every
    person on the planet except her.

    She needs a mirror (or the logical equivalent).

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 08:17:00 2023
    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

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    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

    https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/webimg/b25lY21zOjUyYTI0N2NlLTE1NmYtNDcwYi1hMDVkLTNjMWU5ZjdiODViYjo2OGFmNWM1OS1jMjVhLTRhZWEtODViNS02NzdhOWM1M2NhMmE=.jpg?crop=3:2,smart&width=640&quality=65

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 08:23:24 2023
    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8u1Qo0XkAAi62J?format=jpg&name=small =================

    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 16:25:49 2023
    On 18/10/2023 04:17 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

    =================

    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

    They probably just thought they were on a chav-bike and did what so many chav-cyclists do to stone walls?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 16:26:39 2023
    On 18/10/2023 04:23 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8u1Qo0XkAAi62J?format=jpg&name=small =================

    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

    Is your keyboard in proper working order?

    You have posted the same thing twice within a matter of minutes.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 08:32:26 2023
    QUOTE: Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed) ENDS

    THREE drivers colliding with stone walls?
    Has the council tried h-vis paint for the walls?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Oct 18 15:36:08 2023
    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 18/10/2023 04:23 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed
    through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8u1Qo0XkAAi62J?format=jpg&name=small
    =================

    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

    Is your keyboard in proper working order?

    You have posted the same thing twice within a matter of minutes.

    Would it be a rhetorical question to ask not whether his keyboard is in
    proper working order, but his brain?

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    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 15:36:09 2023
    Simon Mason <[email protected]> wrote:
    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

    =================

    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

    https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/webimg/b25lY21zOjUyYTI0N2NlLTE1NmYtNDcwYi1hMDVkLTNjMWU5ZjdiODViYjo2OGFmNWM1OS1jMjVhLTRhZWEtODViNS02NzdhOWM1M2NhMmE=.jpg?crop=3:2,smart&width=640&quality=65

    THIS GUY DIDN’T PASS A TEST

    <https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/unique-traffic-calming-device-temse-belgium-hilaire-smet-facebook.png>

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    Spike

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 08:42:51 2023
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 4:32:28 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed) ENDS

    THREE drivers colliding with stone walls?
    Has the council tried h-vis paint for the walls?

    Is was reported that they all hit the walls in broad daylight as well. :-/

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Oct 18 16:50:05 2023
    On 18/10/2023 04:36 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 18/10/2023 04:23 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    The aftermath of this accident showed the driver had partially crashed
    through a stone wall. (Photo: Contributed)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8u1Qo0XkAAi62J?format=jpg&name=small
    =================

    OH DEAR - DID THEY PASS A TEST AT SOME POINT? :-)

    Is your keyboard in proper working order?

    You have posted the same thing twice within a matter of minutes.

    Would it be a rhetorical question to ask not whether his keyboard is in proper working order, but his brain?

    <sharp intake of breath>

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Oct 18 16:51:10 2023
    On 18/10/2023 04:42 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 4:32:28 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Zoe felt compelled to contact the Derbyshire Times after encountering three car wrecks in the Peak District in one bike ride. (Photo: Contributed) ENDS

    THREE drivers colliding with stone walls?
    Has the council tried h-vis paint for the walls?

    Is was reported that they all hit the walls in broad daylight as well. :-/

    All three?

    Or just one, reported three times by your good self?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 08:56:49 2023
    QUOTE: “The law dictates that drivers should leave about six feet of space when overtaking cyclists at speeds over 30 miles per hour. That feels a bit excessive to me. ENDS

    AGREED - IT SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN 20MPH.

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