• Driver Liam Boydell admits murdering cyclist Reece Braithwaite in Grims

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 08:44:46 2023
    A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist who suffered serious injuries and later died following a road traffic collision in Grimsby.

    Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.

    Police were called to reports that a man had been hit by a grey Vauxhall Crossland car in Carnforth Crescent, at about 5.20pm on Sunday, May 21. It was claimed that the car had left the scene.

    Reece Braithwaite, 35, was found to have suffered life-threatening injuries and he was taken to hospital. He died on Wednesday, May 24.

    Beareded Boydell, of Boulevard Avenue, Grimsby, appeared in the court's secure dock wearing a grey sweatshirt with a white motif and yellow stripes down the sleeves.

    Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that he did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. Prosecutor Richard Wright KC said that if Boydell did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite, the death was a "virtual certainty" because of his
    actions.

    Mr Wright added that the prosecution team would be suggesting that the mandatory life sentence for Boydell should have a starting point of 25 years behind bars, before other adjustments were made over the minimum term to be served.

    Sentence was adjourned until September and Boydell, who had been in custody, was further remanded in custody. Judge John Thackray KC told him: "It will inevitably be life imprisonment. I will decide on the day the minimum term that you will spend in
    custody."

    The passenger in the vehicle, Thomas McLaughlin, 19, of Rutland Street, Grimsby, was also later arrested after the incident and, at an earlier preliminary hearing, was brought before the court alongside Boydell, accused of murder.

    The case was originally adjourned for trial at Grimsby Crown Court on November 13. However, Jeremy Evans, for the prosecution, confirmed that, since then, the case against McLaughlin, as the passenger, has been discontinued. He was not in court for the
    hearing at which Boydell pleaded guilty.

    https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/driver-liam-boydell-admits-murdering-8645041

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 4 16:47:42 2023
    Something confusing here!

    Is ‘Liam Boydell, 22’ related to ‘Beareded Boydell’?

    Who is the latter and why was he in court?

    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist who suffered serious injuries
    and later died following a road traffic collision in Grimsby.

    Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.

    Police were called to reports that a man had been hit by a grey Vauxhall Crossland car in Carnforth Crescent, at about 5.20pm on Sunday, May 21.
    It was claimed that the car had left the scene.

    Reece Braithwaite, 35, was found to have suffered life-threatening
    injuries and he was taken to hospital. He died on Wednesday, May 24.

    Beareded Boydell, of Boulevard Avenue, Grimsby, appeared in the court's secure dock wearing a grey sweatshirt with a white motif and yellow
    stripes down the sleeves.

    Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that he did
    not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. Prosecutor Richard Wright KC said that
    if Boydell did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite, the death was a
    "virtual certainty" because of his actions.

    Mr Wright added that the prosecution team would be suggesting that the mandatory life sentence for Boydell should have a starting point of 25
    years behind bars, before other adjustments were made over the minimum term to be served.

    Sentence was adjourned until September and Boydell, who had been in
    custody, was further remanded in custody. Judge John Thackray KC told
    him: "It will inevitably be life imprisonment. I will decide on the day
    the minimum term that you will spend in custody."

    The passenger in the vehicle, Thomas McLaughlin, 19, of Rutland Street, Grimsby, was also later arrested after the incident and, at an earlier preliminary hearing, was brought before the court alongside Boydell, accused of murder.

    The case was originally adjourned for trial at Grimsby Crown Court on November 13. However, Jeremy Evans, for the prosecution, confirmed that, since then, the case against McLaughlin, as the passenger, has been discontinued. He was not in court for the hearing at which Boydell pleaded guilty.

    https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/driver-liam-boydell-admits-murdering-8645041




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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 11:33:07 2023
    QUOTE: Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.ENDS

    Someone got life with a minimum of 28 years today - that's a good pointer for another murderer here.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 00:31:39 2023
    On 04/08/2023 07:33 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.ENDS

    Someone got life with a minimum of 28 years today - that's a good pointer for another murderer here.

    When were you arrested?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 00:30:44 2023
    On 04/08/2023 04:44 pm, [email protected] wrote:
    A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist who suffered serious injuries and later died following a road traffic collision in Grimsby.

    Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.

    Police were called to reports that a man had been hit by a grey Vauxhall Crossland car in Carnforth Crescent, at about 5.20pm on Sunday, May 21. It was claimed that the car had left the scene.

    Reece Braithwaite, 35, was found to have suffered life-threatening injuries and he was taken to hospital. He died on Wednesday, May 24.

    Beareded Boydell, of Boulevard Avenue, Grimsby, appeared in the court's secure dock wearing a grey sweatshirt with a white motif and yellow stripes down the sleeves.

    Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that he did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. Prosecutor Richard Wright KC said that if Boydell did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite, the death was a "virtual certainty" because of his
    actions.

    Mr Wright added that the prosecution team would be suggesting that the mandatory life sentence for Boydell should have a starting point of 25 years behind bars, before other adjustments were made over the minimum term to be served.

    Sentence was adjourned until September and Boydell, who had been in custody, was further remanded in custody. Judge John Thackray KC told him: "It will inevitably be life imprisonment. I will decide on the day the minimum term that you will spend in
    custody."

    The passenger in the vehicle, Thomas McLaughlin, 19, of Rutland Street, Grimsby, was also later arrested after the incident and, at an earlier preliminary hearing, was brought before the court alongside Boydell, accused of murder.

    Dual controls, was it?

    The case was originally adjourned for trial at Grimsby Crown Court on November 13. However, Jeremy Evans, for the prosecution, confirmed that, since then, the case against McLaughlin, as the passenger, has been discontinued. He was not in court for the
    hearing at which Boydell pleaded guilty.

    https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/driver-liam-boydell-admits-murdering-8645041


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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 00:44:43 2023
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:33:09 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.ENDS

    Someone got life with a minimum of 28 years today - that's a good pointer for another murderer here.

    QUOTE: Mr Wright added that the prosecution team would be suggesting that the mandatory life sentence for Boydell should have a starting point of 25 years behind bars. ENDS

    As you were then.
    Let's see Mr Arsehole get him out of that one.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 13:12:14 2023
    On 05/08/2023 08:44 am, [email protected] wrote:

    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:33:09 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: Liam Boydell, 22, now faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to the charge at a hearing before Hull Crown Court.ENDS

    Someone got life with a minimum of 28 years today - that's a good pointer for another murderer here.

    QUOTE: Mr Wright added that the prosecution team would be suggesting that the mandatory life sentence for Boydell should have a starting point of 25 years behind bars. ENDS

    As you were then.
    Let's see Mr Arsehole get him out of that one.

    I didn't know you'd moved into defence, M'Lud.

    Is that your working name?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 05:33:03 2023
    QUOTE: Sentence was adjourned until September and Boydell, who had been in custody, was further remanded in custody. Judge John Thackray KC told him: "It will inevitably be life imprisonment. I will decide on the day the minimum term that you will spend
    in custody." ENDS

    Prosecution counsel suggests 25 years, M'Lud.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 13:22:45 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Sentence was adjourned until September and Boydell, who had been
    in custody, was further remanded in custody. Judge John Thackray KC told
    him: "It will inevitably be life imprisonment. I will decide on the day
    the minimum term that you will spend in custody." ENDS

    Prosecution counsel suggests 25 years, M'Lud.

    How can it be ‘life imprisonment’ if there is going to be a minimum term?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sat Aug 5 15:16:20 2023
    On 05/08/2023 02:22 pm, Spike wrote:

    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    QUOTE: Sentence was adjourned until September and Boydell, who had been
    in custody, was further remanded in custody. Judge John Thackray KC told
    him: "It will inevitably be life imprisonment. I will decide on the day
    the minimum term that you will spend in custody." ENDS

    Prosecution counsel suggests 25 years, M'Lud.

    I thought you were now acting for the defence, M'Lud?

    Make your mind up.

    How can it be ‘life imprisonment’ if there is going to be a minimum term?

    When capital punishment for murder was abolished, we were lied to about
    what would replace it.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 09:11:13 2023
    QUOTE: Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that he did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. ENDS

    AND

    QUOTE: A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist. ENDS

    If the driver did not intend to kill the cyclist, then why did he later admit to murdering him?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 19:04:50 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that
    he did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. ENDS

    AND

    QUOTE: A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist. ENDS

    If the driver did not intend to kill the cyclist, then why did he later
    admit to murdering him?

    I think it’s covered by ‘fess up early doors’, a term regularly employed on
    this group.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 12:34:45 2023
    On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 5:11:15 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that he did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. ENDS

    AND

    QUOTE: A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist. ENDS

    If the driver did not intend to kill the cyclist, then why did he later admit to murdering him?

    I suppose the odd one is pressured into telling the truth.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Aug 6 00:41:17 2023
    On 05/08/2023 08:34 pm, [email protected] wrote:
    On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 5:11:15 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: Defence barrister Peter Moulson KC said that Boydell claimed that he did not intend to kill Mr Braithwaite. ENDS

    AND

    QUOTE: A driver has admitted murdering a cyclist. ENDS

    If the driver did not intend to kill the cyclist, then why did he later admit to murdering him?

    I suppose the odd one is pressured into telling the truth.

    Not consulting a solicitor before agreeing to be interviewed (on a
    serious matter such as this) is an error.

    Sometimes, a solicitor can see where and why a defendant has acted
    inadvisedly and will seek, in the interests of that client, to correct
    any errors.

    But you are well aware of that, M'Lud.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 6 02:15:11 2023
    QUOTE: Police were called to reports that a man had been hit by a grey Vauxhall Crossland car in Carnforth Crescent, at about 5.20pm on Sunday, May 21. It was claimed that the car had left the scene. ENDS

    These self driving cars are a bugger for clearing off on their own!

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 6 03:48:57 2023
    QUOTE: Boydell, of Boulevard Avenue, Grimsby, appeared in the court's secure dock wearing a grey sweatshirt with a white motif and yellow stripes down the sleeves. ENDS

    Looks like he is already getting used to his prison fatigues.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Aug 6 10:21:54 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Police were called to reports that a man had been hit by a grey Vauxhall Crossland car in Carnforth Crescent, at about 5.20pm on Sunday,
    May 21. It was claimed that the car had left the scene. ENDS

    These self driving cars are a bugger for clearing off on their own!

    Bicyclists manage it all the time:

    John Doe’, 72, 30 December 2016 (16d)

    <https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-appeal-over-pedestrian-killed-in-collision-with-cyclist-in-shepherd-s-bush-a3464391.html>

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