• Driver chased down 'provoking' youth who hit car with baton and knocked

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 11:38:15 2023
    An enraged driver chased down a youth and knocked him off his bike after the cyclist intentionally hit his car.

    Charles Hammond mounted the pavement and drove across the pedestrianised walkway on Stockton High Street as he chased down a teen cyclist. CCTV footage shows how the 45-year-old had been parked up when a youth rode past him and hit his Seat car with a
    baton.

    Teesside Crown Court heard how Hammond, who was being provoked "fairly frequently" by youths and was on bail for similar offences at the time, headed down a side street before he can be seen driving up onto the pavement. The furious driver appears to
    reverse twice towards the cyclist before chasing him down the pedestrianised street and knocking him from his bike.

    Hammond, whose health has deteriorated considerably since the incident on May 26 last year, can then be seen getting out of the vehicle and follows the teen on foot before returning to his car when the youth cycles away, outlines prosecutor Shaun Dryden.

    The dangerous driving occurred while he was on bail for another similar offence - which he was sentenced for in November 2022. Hammond, then 44, had travelled at an unsafe speed through Garnet Street in central Middlesbrough as he tried to catch up with
    the group of teenagers who he claimed had been tormenting him.

    Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians had to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him driving the
    wrong way down a street and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes.

    On Tuesday, Jon Gittins, mitigating, told the court how Hammond, who has lupus as well as a number of other health conditions, had an accident in April in a shop which "resulted in quite a bad injury to his leg". He then contracted sepsis and was "very
    close to losing his life".

    Hammond is currently going through rehabilitation treatment at a centre in Stockton. Judge Jonathan Carroll told Hammond: "I don't know who these youths are and I don't know what has gone on between you and these youths. They were not solely innocent in
    this matter and they were part of the problem.

    "They were provoking you and doing so, as I understand it, fairly frequently and you were reacting adversely and dangerously."

    Judge Carroll said these matters and the previous offence of dangerous driving should have been before the court at the same time. "[The youth] could have suffered a very serious injury or possibly even worse," he added. "You're dragging the general
    public into this - the way you are driving across a pedestrianised area drags completely innocent bystanders into whatever is going on with you and these youths - that is why you are before the court.

    "That is why if you were a healthy man you'd be facing an immediate custodial sentence."

    Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue, Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He is banned from driving - although he is unable to do so at this time anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test.

    https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/driver-chased-down-provoking-youth-27436240

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 12:00:09 2023
    QUOTE: Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue, Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He is banned from driving - although he is unable to do so at this time anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test. ENDS

    He can't drive anyway due to his poor physical health - karma in action.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 2 18:46:23 2023
    And what was the sentence for the youth who bicycled past the parked car, hitting it with a baton?

    Carrying an offensive weapon, criminal damage, causing alarm and distress -
    he should do time for that little lot.

    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    An enraged driver chased down a youth and knocked him off his bike after
    the cyclist intentionally hit his car.

    Charles Hammond mounted the pavement and drove across the pedestrianised walkway on Stockton High Street as he chased down a teen cyclist. CCTV footage shows how the 45-year-old had been parked up when a youth rode
    past him and hit his Seat car with a baton.

    Teesside Crown Court heard how Hammond, who was being provoked "fairly frequently" by youths and was on bail for similar offences at the time, headed down a side street before he can be seen driving up onto the
    pavement. The furious driver appears to reverse twice towards the cyclist before chasing him down the pedestrianised street and knocking him from his bike.

    Hammond, whose health has deteriorated considerably since the incident on
    May 26 last year, can then be seen getting out of the vehicle and follows
    the teen on foot before returning to his car when the youth cycles away, outlines prosecutor Shaun Dryden.

    The dangerous driving occurred while he was on bail for another similar offence - which he was sentenced for in November 2022. Hammond, then 44,
    had travelled at an unsafe speed through Garnet Street in central Middlesbrough as he tried to catch up with the group of teenagers who he claimed had been tormenting him.

    Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians had to
    jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on June 19
    2021, CCTV had captured him driving the wrong way down a street and over
    the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes.

    On Tuesday, Jon Gittins, mitigating, told the court how Hammond, who has lupus as well as a number of other health conditions, had an accident in April in a shop which "resulted in quite a bad injury to his leg". He
    then contracted sepsis and was "very close to losing his life".

    Hammond is currently going through rehabilitation treatment at a centre
    in Stockton. Judge Jonathan Carroll told Hammond: "I don't know who these youths are and I don't know what has gone on between you and these
    youths. They were not solely innocent in this matter and they were part of the problem.

    "They were provoking you and doing so, as I understand it, fairly
    frequently and you were reacting adversely and dangerously."

    Judge Carroll said these matters and the previous offence of dangerous driving should have been before the court at the same time. "[The youth] could have suffered a very serious injury or possibly even worse," he
    added. "You're dragging the general public into this - the way you are driving across a pedestrianised area drags completely innocent bystanders into whatever is going on with you and these youths - that is why you are before the court.

    "That is why if you were a healthy man you'd be facing an immediate custodial sentence."

    Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue, Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He is banned from driving - although he
    is unable to do so at this time anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test.

    https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/driver-chased-down-provoking-youth-27436240




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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 2 22:02:32 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue, Thornaby, was handed a six
    months sentence suspended for 18 months. He is banned from driving -
    although he is unable to do so at this time anyway - for 12 months and
    must take an extended test. ENDS

    He can't drive anyway due to his poor physical health - karma in action.

    He’ll have to get a bicycle and a baton. What’s sauce for the goose, etc.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 01:58:14 2023
    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard how Hammond, who was being provoked "fairly frequently" by youths and was on bail for similar offences at the time, headed down a side street before he can be seen driving up onto the pavement. The furious driver appears
    to reverse twice towards the cyclist before chasing him down the pedestrianised street and knocking him from his bike. ENDS

    On bail while speeding towards his victim who was in a pedestrianised zone is not the most sensible course of action.

    ""You're dragging the general public into this - the way you are driving across a pedestrianised area drags completely innocent bystanders into whatever is going on with you and these youths - that is why you are before the court. "

    QUITE.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 3 09:11:18 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard how Hammond, who was being provoked
    "fairly frequently" by youths and was on bail for similar offences at the time, headed down a side street before he can be seen driving up onto the pavement. The furious driver appears to reverse twice towards the cyclist before chasing him down the pedestrianised street and knocking him from his bike. ENDS

    On bail while speeding towards his victim who was in a pedestrianised
    zone is not the most sensible course of action.

    ""You're dragging the general public into this - the way you are driving across a pedestrianised area drags completely innocent bystanders into whatever is going on with you and these youths - that is why you are before the court. "

    QUITE.


    Does the same go for bicyclists who do that?

    Thought not.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 05:06:18 2023
    QUOTE: Charles Hammond mounted the pavement and drove across the pedestrianised walkway on Stockton High Street. ENDS

    We are always told that motorists never drive on footways and endanger pedestrians.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 3 14:10:59 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    QUOTE: Charles Hammond mounted the pavement and drove across the pedestrianised walkway on Stockton High Street. ENDS

    We are always told that motorists never drive on footways and endanger pedestrians.

    We are always told that bicyclists are nice people who never do anything
    wrong, and if they did, it’s someone else’s fault.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 3 15:55:57 2023
    On 03/08/2023 01:06 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Charles Hammond mounted the pavement and drove across the pedestrianised walkway on Stockton High Street. ENDS

    We are always told that motorists never drive on footways and endanger pedestrians.

    We are always told that chavs on chav-bikes would never dream of
    committing criminal damage.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 08:57:45 2023
    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians had to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him driving
    the wrong way down a street and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    "Psycho" store, eh? Is that a shop especially for nutter drivers who go speeding down one way streets the wrong way?
    Fancy that.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 3 18:51:29 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians had
    to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche store,
    on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him driving the wrong way down a street and over
    the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    "Psycho" store, eh? Is that a shop especially for nutter drivers who go speeding down one way streets the wrong way?
    Fancy that.

    ‘Psycho Store’ might be for bicyclists, have you checked it out?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 12:05:50 2023
    QUOTE: On Tuesday, Jon Gittins, mitigating, told the court how Hammond, who has lupus as well as a number of other health conditions, had an accident in April in a shop which "resulted in quite a bad injury to his leg". He then contracted sepsis and was "
    very close to losing his life". ENDS

    Did he crash his car into this shop while he was speeding through these pedestrian areas?

    AIH, I got sepsis in my leg in 2013 up to my hips in hospital, but didn't go crying about it to the judge.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Aug 3 20:35:29 2023
    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/08/2023 04:57 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians
    had to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche
    store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on
    June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him driving the wrong way down a street
    and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    "Psycho" store, eh? Is that a shop especially for nutter drivers who go
    speeding down one way streets the wrong way?
    Fancy that.

    A psycho store is where psycholists go to buy chav-psycles and spare parts.

    Spare parts? Like a brain transplant? Could be useful for some on the
    group?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 3 21:26:06 2023
    On 03/08/2023 04:57 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians had to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him
    driving the wrong way down a street and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    "Psycho" store, eh? Is that a shop especially for nutter drivers who go speeding down one way streets the wrong way?
    Fancy that.

    A psycho store is where psycholists go to buy chav-psycles and spare parts.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Aug 3 21:52:14 2023
    On 03/08/2023 09:35 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/08/2023 04:57 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians
    had to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche
    store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on
    June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him driving the wrong way down a street
    and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    "Psycho" store, eh? Is that a shop especially for nutter drivers who go
    speeding down one way streets the wrong way?
    Fancy that.

    A psycho store is where psycholists go to buy chav-psycles and spare parts.

    Spare parts? Like a brain transplant? Could be useful for some on the
    group?

    :-)

    I was thinking more of what happens to all those chav-bikes which are
    reported stolen - sometimes in street robberies.

    They must mainly end up as "ask me no questions" spare parts at
    knock-down (or knock-off) prices.

    There'll be a demand for those.

    From other chav-psycholists, of course.

    Who else?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 14:06:34 2023
    QUOTE: "That is why if you were a healthy man you'd be facing an immediate custodial sentence." Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue, Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He is banned from driving - although he is unable to
    do so at this time anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test. ENDS

    If you weren't such a lying spaz, you'd have been someone's bitch in jail.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Aug 3 21:25:52 2023
    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/08/2023 09:35 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/08/2023 04:57 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Teesside Crown Court heard at the time how several pedestrians
    had to jump out of the way when his car mounted the kerb near Psyche
    store, on Linthorpe Road. When the police arrived on Portman Street, on >>>> June 19 2021, CCTV had captured him driving the wrong way down a street >>>> and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    "Psycho" store, eh? Is that a shop especially for nutter drivers who go >>>> speeding down one way streets the wrong way?
    Fancy that.

    A psycho store is where psycholists go to buy chav-psycles and spare parts. >>
    Spare parts? Like a brain transplant? Could be useful for some on the
    group?

    :-)

    I was thinking more of what happens to all those chav-bikes which are reported stolen - sometimes in street robberies.

    They must mainly end up as "ask me no questions" spare parts at
    knock-down (or knock-off) prices.

    There'll be a demand for those.

    From other chav-psycholists, of course.

    Who else?

    Oh, quite. Normal people wouldn’t touch them with a barge-pole.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 4 01:06:17 2023
    On 03/08/2023 10:06 pm, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: "That is why if you were a healthy man you'd be facing an immediate custodial sentence." Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue, Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He is banned from driving - although he is unable
    to do so at this time anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test. ENDS

    If you weren't such a lying spaz, you'd have been someone's bitch in jail.

    "Spaz"?

    "Bitch"?

    Is that the way that decent people talk these days?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 01:10:43 2023
    QUOTE: , CCTV had captured him driving the wrong way down a street and over the speed limit, while chasing the group, for 10 minutes. ENDS

    Was that just before he mounted the pavement and then sped down a pedestrian walkway?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Fri Aug 4 08:30:26 2023
    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/08/2023 10:06 pm, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: "That is why if you were a healthy man you'd be facing an
    immediate custodial sentence." Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue,
    Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He
    is banned from driving - although he is unable to do so at this time
    anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test. ENDS

    If you weren't such a lying spaz, you'd have been someone's bitch in jail.

    "Spaz"?

    "Bitch"?

    Is that the way that decent people talk these days?

    No, it’s the way a misogynist and disablist would talk in order to boost their tiny ego, known as ‘projection’.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 03:33:48 2023
    QUOTE: Hammond, then 44, had travelled at an unsafe speed through Garnet Street in central Middlesbrough as he tried to catch up with the group of teenagers who he claimed had been tormenting him. ENDS

    Poor baby - were the nasty children calling you howwible names?
    Grow up, baldie.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 4 12:11:13 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: Hammond, then 44, had travelled at an unsafe speed through Garnet Street in central Middlesbrough as he tried to catch up with the group of teenagers who he claimed had been tormenting him. ENDS

    Poor baby - were the nasty children calling you howwible names?
    Grow up, baldie.

    You appear to have something in your eye.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 05:55:23 2023
    QUOTE: The dangerous driving occurred while he was on bail for another similar offence - which he was sentenced for in November 2022. ENDS

    Two offences for the price of one - double bubble!

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Fri Aug 4 16:13:18 2023
    On 04/08/2023 09:30 am, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/08/2023 10:06 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: "That is why if you were a healthy man you'd be facing an
    immediate custodial sentence." Instead, Hammond, of Langley Avenue,
    Thornaby, was handed a six months sentence suspended for 18 months. He
    is banned from driving - although he is unable to do so at this time
    anyway - for 12 months and must take an extended test. ENDS

    If you weren't such a lying spaz, you'd have been someone's bitch in jail.

    "Spaz"?
    "Bitch"?
    Is that the way that decent people talk these days?

    No, it’s the way a misogynist and disablist would talk in order to boost their tiny ego, known as ‘projection’.

    It is disturbing.

    May Sun lost any residual veneer of civilisation a long time ago, though.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 08:35:49 2023
    QUOTE: The furious driver appears to reverse twice towards the cyclist before chasing him down the pedestrianised street and knocking him from his bike. ENDS

    Wow - this driver was NOT in so much of a hurry that he oddly had so much time to reverse and argue the toss as per usual.
    Instead he drove down a pedestrian street DELIBERATLEY in order to injure a child - classy!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 4 16:36:06 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    QUOTE: The furious driver appears to reverse twice towards the cyclist
    before chasing him down the pedestrianised street and knocking him from his bike. ENDS

    Wow - this driver was NOT in so much of a hurry that he oddly had so much time to reverse and argue the toss as per usual.

    Instead he drove down a pedestrian street DELIBERATLEY in order to injure a child - classy!

    Not limited to drivers, of course:

    Cyclist who 'kicked little girl to floor' on Christmas Day 'refuses to apologise'

    Footage shows a road rage cyclist appear to deliberately knock over a child that was blocking his way using his knee. The girl's dad claimed he
    demanded an apology but he refused.

    A cyclist who seemingly deliberately stuck out his knee to knock over a
    child that was blocking his way "refused to apologise" when confronted by
    her dad.
    In the footage, recorded by dad by Patrick Mpasa on Christmas Day at a
    nature Park in Belgium, a cyclist is coming down a path behind his wife and daughter ringing a bicycle horn.

    Instead of waiting for the infant to be pulled out of the way, he goes down
    the side and seemingly deliberately puts his leg out, striking her in the
    back and sending her flying onto the snow-covered ground.

    Moments before he knocks her over, he shouts in warning: "Attention!"

    Patrick, who managed to catch up with the man, said: "He explained what happened and asked us to withdraw the complaint to police, but he showed no remorse and did not apologise."

    He decided to share the footage on social media asking if people agreed
    that he was right to complain to the police.

    Public prosecutors have confirmed they are aware of the video and are
    looking into the incident.

    The family believes if the man had accidentally knocked over the little
    girl, he would have stopped to check that she was okay instead of just
    speeding off.

    <https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/cyclist-who-kicked-little-girl-23243631>

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 11:28:12 2023
    QUOTE: Judge Carroll said these matters and the previous offence of dangerous driving should have been before the court at the same time. "[The youth] could have suffered a very serious injury or possibly even worse," he added. "You're dragging the
    general public into this - the way you are driving across a pedestrianised area drags completely innocent bystanders into whatever is going on with you and these youths - that is why you are before the court. ENDS

    Forget the snarl word "youths" - THEY ARE CHILDREN in the eyes of the law.

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