On 04/07/2023 06:44 am, [email protected] [the Chief Chav] wrote:
After years of bad parking blighting a residential area, Hull City
Council introduced wheel stop kerbs to prevent vehicles parking on the
pavement.
The black and yellow fittings have been fixed in place along the edge
of the pavement on Goddard Avenue and were rolled out to the whole
street following a successful trial. Many residents on the street have
welcomed the change, as they would often have cars parked right up to
their gates, but argued the new system comes with flaws.
Whether it be the backends of cars blocking part of the carriageway,
larger vehicles struggling to squeeze in or people tripping over them,
neighbours said there have been issues. However, everyone seemed to
agree that the idea was generally positive and it was well overdue for
pedestrians to have the space they deserve.
Obvious question: what processes are in place to stop arrogant chavs on
bikes from illegally using the footways?
After all, pedestrians will never have "the space they deserve" whilst cyclepaths like you have anything to do with it, will they?
One man, who was standing on his front doorstep admiring the council's
handiwork, said the kerbs made the street a lot better. "The kerbs
have improved the area a lot," he said.
"Before, cars would sometimes park right up to my fence. There are
some problems with them, such as the cars sticking out onto the road,
but I think it's mostly okay. The kerbs are a positive thing."
A few doors down the street, neighbour Olivia was quick to call the
plan "ridiculous". Although she believed it was a good idea in one
sense, she wasn't convinced that the inconsiderate parking would stop.
She said: "It's ridiculous really. I see why they have done it because
cars have parked very close to my wall before but so many drivers just
ignore them and drive over the kerbs.
It sounds as though the residents want (and perhaps need) double yellow lines.
"A few of them at the top of the street look like they have cracked
and split already. It looks like they have just stuck them anywhere as
there are still big gaps that cars can get through."
Olivia also pointed out that people with prams and in wheelchairs may
struggle to cross with the kerbs in the way. "I know they are big and
yellow- so quite easy to see - but I have seen three people trip over
them now," she continued.
"If you're waving at someone across the road and walk backwards, you
could easily fall over it. On the whole, the idea was there but I
think it could have been executed better."
Walking down the street, it seemed as though not everyone got the memo
that cars are meant to have their wheels behind the wheel stops.
Several vehicles had inched their tyres over the new fittings but the
street had vastly improved compared to previously.
Echelon parking is only a feasible scheme where the carriageway is
unusually wide (for a residential street). Perhaps as wide as forty
feet, in order to allow for parking and two effective lanes of moving traffic.
Resident Paul seemed pleased with the idea and said pedestrian access
was now a lot better. He said: "The majority of vehicles are now
parked reasonably well.
"Two people can now walk side by side down the path without any
trouble. I suppose longer cars might stick out into the road a bit but
the new design means they have to park a bit more horizontally.
"I suppose this could mean there are less spaces but overall, it's
working well."
Goddard Avenue has plenty of cars, as well as caravans, campervans and
minibuses parked down there at all times. Although the parking
situation isn't perfect and may take time to get used to, most
neighbours can agree that improvements have been made.
Speaking on the issue two years ago, Cllr Mike Ross, now the council
leader, said: "Residents have long raised concerns with us about
problems caused by people parking badly on Goddard Avenue. As someone
who often walks down the road myself, I am well aware of the problem,
with the pavement too often blocked by inconsiderate drivers.
"There has been no easy way to tackle this, but we have got the
agreement from the council to trial 'wheel stop kerbs', which would
make clear to drivers where they are to stop when parking.”
On announcing the roll-out last month, Hull City Council said:
"Following a successful trial on Goddard Avenue, these wheel stop
kerbs are going to be installed on the rest of the street. The kerbs
reduce the obstruction that parked vehicles cause to pedestrians and
other vulnerable users."
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/goddard-avenue-neighbours-divided-over-8571719
Those don't look like kerbs at all. It looks as though the footway and
the carriageway were (and remain) at the same height.
Whose idea was that?
After years of bad parking blighting a residential area, Hull City Council introduced wheel stop kerbs to prevent vehicles parking on the pavement.have cars parked right up to their gates, but argued the new system comes with flaws.
The black and yellow fittings have been fixed in place along the edge of the pavement on Goddard Avenue and were rolled out to the whole street following a successful trial. Many residents on the street have welcomed the change, as they would often
Whether it be the backends of cars blocking part of the carriageway, larger vehicles struggling to squeeze in or people tripping over them, neighbours said there have been issues. However, everyone seemed to agree that the idea was generally positiveand it was well overdue for pedestrians to have the space they deserve.
One man, who was standing on his front doorstep admiring the council's handiwork, said the kerbs made the street a lot better. "The kerbs have improved the area a lot," he said.
"Before, cars would sometimes park right up to my fence. There are some problems with them, such as the cars sticking out onto the road, but I think it's mostly okay. The kerbs are a positive thing."
A few doors down the street, neighbour Olivia was quick to call the plan "ridiculous". Although she believed it was a good idea in one sense, she wasn't convinced that the inconsiderate parking would stop.
She said: "It's ridiculous really. I see why they have done it because cars have parked very close to my wall before but so many drivers just ignore them and drive over the kerbs.
"A few of them at the top of the street look like they have cracked and split already. It looks like they have just stuck them anywhere as there are still big gaps that cars can get through."previously.
Olivia also pointed out that people with prams and in wheelchairs may struggle to cross with the kerbs in the way. "I know they are big and yellow- so quite easy to see - but I have seen three people trip over them now," she continued.
"If you're waving at someone across the road and walk backwards, you could easily fall over it. On the whole, the idea was there but I think it could have been executed better."
Walking down the street, it seemed as though not everyone got the memo that cars are meant to have their wheels behind the wheel stops. Several vehicles had inched their tyres over the new fittings but the street had vastly improved compared to
Resident Paul seemed pleased with the idea and said pedestrian access was now a lot better. He said: "The majority of vehicles are now parked reasonably well.aware of the problem, with the pavement too often blocked by inconsiderate drivers.
"Two people can now walk side by side down the path without any trouble. I suppose longer cars might stick out into the road a bit but the new design means they have to park a bit more horizontally.
"I suppose this could mean there are less spaces but overall, it's working well."
Goddard Avenue has plenty of cars, as well as caravans, campervans and minibuses parked down there at all times. Although the parking situation isn't perfect and may take time to get used to, most neighbours can agree that improvements have been made.
Speaking on the issue two years ago, Cllr Mike Ross, now the council leader, said: "Residents have long raised concerns with us about problems caused by people parking badly on Goddard Avenue. As someone who often walks down the road myself, I am well
"There has been no easy way to tackle this, but we have got the agreement from the council to trial 'wheel stop kerbs', which would make clear to drivers where they are to stop when parking.”pedestrians and other vulnerable users."
On announcing the roll-out last month, Hull City Council said: "Following a successful trial on Goddard Avenue, these wheel stop kerbs are going to be installed on the rest of the street. The kerbs reduce the obstruction that parked vehicles cause to
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/goddard-avenue-neighbours-divided-over-8571719
On 04/07/2023 12:42 pm, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2023 06:44 am, [email protected] [the Chief Chav] wrote:
After years of bad parking blighting a residential area, Hull City
Council introduced wheel stop kerbs to prevent vehicles parking on the
pavement.
The black and yellow fittings have been fixed in place along the edge
of the pavement on Goddard Avenue and were rolled out to the whole
street following a successful trial. Many residents on the street have
welcomed the change, as they would often have cars parked right up to
their gates, but argued the new system comes with flaws.
...and it turns out that Goddard Avenue IS that wide and that echelon
parking was already in use. Plus, there's an obvious answer as to why
the footway is not higher than the carriageway's edge.
See: <https://tinyurl.com/5n7mrr7p> [quite SFW]
How anyone could get a thoroughfare of that width to produce problems in
the *first* place is the unanswered question.
2 hrs ago
It's not long ago they did endyke lane and put driveways in for them and
a new road surface however they park on the grass verge ruining it should have traffic wardens out,if they get a ticket they would not do it again
and also save the council to do it over again in the future
4 min ago
I believe that. And with everyone having these driveways, entire streets slope towards the road. This makes it incredibly difficult for wheelchair users and those pushing strollers. We have cannibalised pedestrians'
space in service of the driver.
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You could say that for huge swathes of the entire countryside.
3 hrs ago
Well it's always the same a law abiding citizen has always to pay the
price for these rude ignorant drivers who park on the pavements. Your
cars are not taxed for pavements. We have been down that Street and it
awful how some idiots park - so well done COUNCIL AND HOPE WARDENS
MONITOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A £1,000 FINE FOR PARKING ON OR OVER FOOTPATHS
4 hrs ago
Pavement parking is a huge issue affecting the whole of Hull. Goddard Ave
is just a particularly egregious example of it. It needs to be tackled
and soon as it seriously affects quality of life. As does parking in
front of crossing points on side streets.
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