• Deliveroo cyclist stabbed was reportedly trying to stop thief stealing

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 08:24:22 2023
    A Deliveroo delivery cyclist stabbed outside a McDonald's in north London on Saturday afternoon had reportedly confronted a man trying to steal his bicycle.

    The news has been widely reported online, the Mail (link is external) and Metro (link is external) saying it is believed the cyclist in his 20s had tried to stop a bike thief outside the fast food outlet on Fore Street in Edmonton when he was attacked.

    The rider was taken to hospital having been treated at the scene by passers by who rushed to his aid before paramedics arrived, and his injuries are not thought to be life-threatening.

    In footage shared on social media a man can be seen being restrained by a security guard, while the other man, wearing a blue Deliveroo jacket, lies next to one of the company's boxes, receiving treatment.

    At the same time, a third person, who it is unclear if they were involved or had just retrieved the weapon, appears to be holding a knife as they walk through the crowd.

    Metropolitan Police later confirmed that a 19-year-old man had been arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm, but have not confirmed the reports of the attempted bike theft.

    A statement read: "Police were called at 16:27hrs on Saturday, 1 July to Fore Street, N18 following reports of a male stabbed. Officers arrived and found a large crowd who were providing first aid to the man, who is believed to be aged in his late 20s.

    "He has been taken to a north London hospital; we await an update on his condition. A 19-year-old man was detained nearby and subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm.

    "He was taken to a north London hospital for treatment; his injury is not believed to be life-threatening. A crime scene is in place, and Fore Street is closed between the A406 and Colyton Way, N19."

    Deliveroo also released a statement: "This is a horrific incident that has no place in our communities. We are extremely concerned by the images we have seen and we are investigating urgently.

    "We strongly condemn any attacks or violence against Deliveroo riders, or anyone simply trying to work. Their safety and well-being is our absolute priority. We will support the police investigation however we can."

    In October, a 24-year-old delivery cyclist, also in London, crashed when three youths "jumped into the cycle lane from the pavement", causing a collision before one of the teenagers brandished what appeared to be a knife.

    "I was saying 'stay here until the police come' and one started kicking my bike with his leg. Two of them left and I then kicked his bike back," the rider explained.

    "He then tried to stab me. I didn't even see the knife as I was just thinking he's trying to punch me. I saw it after he tried to hit me with it. I didn't even expect a knife as he's just a kid."

    https://road.cc/content/news/deliveroo-cyclist-reportedly-stabbed-while-stopping-thief-302277

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 2 15:44:02 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    A Deliveroo delivery cyclist stabbed outside a McDonald's in north London
    on Saturday afternoon had reportedly confronted a man trying to steal his bicycle.

    The news has been widely reported online, the Mail (link is external) and Metro (link is external) saying it is believed the cyclist in his 20s had tried to stop a bike thief outside the fast food outlet on Fore Street in Edmonton when he was attacked.

    The rider was taken to hospital having been treated at the scene by
    passers by who rushed to his aid before paramedics arrived, and his
    injuries are not thought to be life-threatening.

    https://road.cc/content/news/deliveroo-cyclist-reportedly-stabbed-while-stopping-thief-302277

    Perhaps follow the suggestions by British Cycling:

    “The sad reality however is that when these spikes in violent crime occur, and while we try to understand the pattern of incidents better, it is
    prudent for individuals, clubs and groups to discuss these concerns
    together and think carefully about the rides they have planned.

    With the rise in incidents showing few signs of abating, British Cycling
    has advised that members in affected areas should plan rides and events carefully, be mindful of privacy settings on devices and contact its
    incident helpline (link is external) as well as the police to report
    incidents and/or threatening behaviour.”

    In other words, don’t expect the task of cycling safely to fall on others, but take some responsibility yourselves.

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    Spike

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 09:09:16 2023
    QUOTE: Metropolitan Police later confirmed that a 19-year-old man had been arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm, but have not confirmed the reports of the attempted bike theft. ENDS

    Looks like an attack by your common London knife thug in that case, rather than a wannabee delivery guy.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 3 15:47:32 2023
    On 02/07/2023 05:09 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: Metropolitan Police later confirmed that a 19-year-old man had been arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm, but have not confirmed the reports of the attempted bike theft. ENDS

    Looks like an attack by your common London knife thug in that case, rather than a wannabee delivery guy.

    Someone wanted that chav-bike, whether to ride, sell (to another
    chav-cyclist) or to break up for parts (to be sold, no questions asked,
    to a chav-cyclist).

    Chav-cyclists all the way down the chain of events. If there were no
    willing chav-cyclist buyers, there'd be no thefts of chav-bikes.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 08:31:49 2023
    QUOTE: A statement read: "Police were called at 16:27hrs on Saturday, 1 July to Fore Street, N18 following reports of a male stabbed. Officers arrived and found a large crowd who were providing first aid to the man, who is believed to be aged in his late
    20s.

    "He has been taken to a north London hospital; we await an update on his condition. A 19-year-old man was detained nearby and subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. ENDS

    Attempted murder, surely?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 3 16:57:23 2023
    On 03/07/2023 04:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: A statement read: "Police were called at 16:27hrs on Saturday, 1 July to Fore Street, N18 following reports of a male stabbed. Officers arrived and found a large crowd who were providing first aid to the man, who is believed to be aged in his
    late 20s.

    "He has been taken to a north London hospital; we await an update on his condition. A 19-year-old man was detained nearby and subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. ENDS

    Attempted murder, surely?

    That will depend on a number of (relatively obvious) things, such as
    which part of the body has been injured.

    But best leave it to the people - CPS - who know what they're talking
    about, eh?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 3 09:00:11 2023
    On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:31:52 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: A statement read: "Police were called at 16:27hrs on Saturday, 1 July to Fore Street, N18 following reports of a male stabbed. Officers arrived and found a large crowd who were providing first aid to the man, who is believed to be aged in his
    late 20s.

    "He has been taken to a north London hospital; we await an update on his condition. A 19-year-old man was detained nearby and subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. ENDS

    Attempted murder, surely?

    QUOTE: In England and Wales, as an "attempt", attempted murder is an offence under section 1(1) of the Criminal Attempts Act 1981 and is an indictable offence which carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment (the same as the mandatory sentence for
    murder). ENDS

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 4 00:59:47 2023
    On 03/07/2023 05:00 pm, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:31:52 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    QUOTE: A statement read: "Police were called at 16:27hrs on Saturday, 1 July to Fore Street, N18 following reports of a male stabbed. Officers arrived and found a large crowd who were providing first aid to the man, who is believed to be aged in his
    late 20s.

    "He has been taken to a north London hospital; we await an update on his condition. A 19-year-old man was detained nearby and subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. ENDS

    Attempted murder, surely?

    QUOTE: In England and Wales, as an "attempt", attempted murder is an offence under section 1(1) of the Criminal Attempts Act 1981 and is an indictable offence which carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment (the same as the mandatory sentence for
    murder). ENDS

    So what?

    That does not mean that an assault or injury inflicted is automatically attempted murder.

    If it did mean that, every chav-cyclist cycling his chav-bike along the
    footway could be arrested for attempted murder.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 22:09:48 2023
    QUOTE: In footage shared on social media a man can be seen being restrained by a security guard, while the other man, wearing a blue Deliveroo jacket, lies next to one of the company's boxes, receiving treatment.

    At the same time, a third person, who it is unclear if they were involved or had just retrieved the weapon, appears to be holding a knife as they walk through the crowd. ENDS

    How many attackers were they?
    Two?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Jul 4 07:59:42 2023
    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 03/07/2023 05:00 pm, [email protected] wrote:

    QUOTE: In England and Wales, as an "attempt", attempted murder is an
    offence under section 1(1) of the Criminal Attempts Act 1981 and is an
    indictable offence which carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment
    (the same as the mandatory sentence for murder). ENDS

    So what?

    That does not mean that an assault or injury inflicted is automatically attempted murder.

    If it did mean that, every chav-cyclist cycling his chav-bike along the footway could be arrested for attempted murder.

    Bring it on…

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    Spike

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 4 03:28:56 2023
    Looks like a doctor was on the scene as well.

    https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/SEI_162537302-fea1-e1688287727176.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=471%2C688

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 4 10:37:44 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    Looks like a doctor was on the scene as well.

    https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/SEI_162537302-fea1-e1688287727176.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=471%2C688

    A doctor on the scene? That’s a pizza cook.

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 4 12:32:41 2023
    On 04/07/2023 06:09 am, [email protected] [the Chief Chav] wrote:

    QUOTE: In footage shared on social media a man can be seen being restrained by a security guard, while the other man, wearing a blue Deliveroo jacket, lies next to one of the company's boxes, receiving treatment.

    At the same time, a third person, who it is unclear if they were involved or had just retrieved the weapon, appears to be holding a knife as they walk through the crowd. ENDS

    How many attackers were they? ["there"?]
    Two?

    Have you thought of asking the police force for an update on their enquiry?

    They're going to have the latest information and I am sure that they
    will willingly share it with such a distinguished member of the
    judiciary as your good self.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 4 05:53:50 2023
    QUOTE: Another man can be seen pinned to the ground by security while someone else in a white shirt and black trousers appears to be holding a knife as he walks through the crowd. ENDS

    Was it our friend, Jason Wells with his meat cleaver - he is a well known cyclist hater.

    https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/06/02/10/rr3.jpg?width=960&auto=webp&quality=100&crop=1500%3A1000%2Csmart

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/06/01/17/angry3.jpg?quality=75&width=640&auto=webp

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