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Pedestrian Helmets
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Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
All on Sat May 27 02:52:06 2023
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From
Spike@21:1/5 to
Mike Collins on Sat May 27 10:08:27 2023
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From
Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
Spike on Sat May 27 09:42:49 2023
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Spike@21:1/5 to
Mike Collins on Sat May 27 17:34:56 2023
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From
Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
Spike on Sat May 27 14:42:05 2023
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From
Spike@21:1/5 to
Mike Collins on Sat May 27 21:58:41 2023
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From
Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
Spike on Sat May 27 15:20:21 2023
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From
Spike@21:1/5 to
Mike Collins on Sun May 28 08:12:09 2023
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From
Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
Spike on Mon May 29 02:11:32 2023
On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
Have a lie-in today, did we?
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Spike
Is there a point you are failing to make?
There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
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Spike
So enlighten me
Docendo discimus
ICBA
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Spike
So you have no point.
Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
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Spike
As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes. The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
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On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:45:07 AM UTC+1,
[email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:38:53 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Is there a point you are failing to make?
Fun for all the family:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg
Can't do anything to prevent brain death from going from 70mph to 0 mph in an instant though.
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From
Spike@21:1/5 to
Mike Collins on Mon May 29 10:11:29 2023
Mike Collins <
[email protected]> wrote:
On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
Have a lie-in today, did we?
--
Spike
Is there a point you are failing to make?
There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
--
Spike
So enlighten me
Docendo discimus
ICBA
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Spike
So you have no point.
Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
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Spike
As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error
tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
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Spike
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[email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:45:07 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:38:53 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote: >>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Is there a point you are failing to make?
Fun for all the family:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg
Can't do anything to prevent brain death from going from 70mph to 0 mph
in an instant though.
Do a teensy bit of research into the rocket-sled experiments of the 1940s
and 1950s, that were designed to test the limits of human endurance as part
of the trials to determine what a future astronaut might need to withstand.
This should provide some info of interest:
<
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stapp>
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Spike
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From
Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
Spike on Mon May 29 03:19:46 2023
On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:13:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
Have a lie-in today, did we?
--
Spike
Is there a point you are failing to make?
There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
--
Spike
So enlighten me
Docendo discimus
ICBA
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Spike
So you have no point.
Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
--
Spike
As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
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Spike
So you are not mature enough to admit you have no point.
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From
Spike@21:1/5 to
Mike Collins on Mon May 29 10:46:10 2023
Mike Collins <
[email protected]> wrote:
On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:13:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
Have a lie-in today, did we?
--
Spike
Is there a point you are failing to make?
There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
--
Spike
So enlighten me
Docendo discimus
ICBA
--
Spike
So you have no point.
Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
--
Spike
As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error
tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
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Spike
So you are not mature enough to admit you have no point.
Nelson got away with putting the telescope to his blind eye, but that
technique isn’t working for you.
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Spike
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On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC+1,
[email protected] wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg
Can't do anything to prevent brain death from going from 70mph to 0 mph in an instant though.
Whiplash is a neck injury due to forceful, rapid back-and-forth movement of the neck, like the cracking of a whip. Whiplash is commonly caused by rear-end car accidents. But whiplash can also result from sports accidents, physical abuse and other types
of traumas, such as a fall.
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[email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
Whiplash is a neck injury due to forceful, rapid back-and-forth movement
of the neck, like the cracking of a whip. Whiplash is commonly caused by rear-end car accidents. But whiplash can also result from sports
accidents, physical abuse and other types of traumas, such as a fall.
So whiplash is a risk for cyclists too.
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Spike
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When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but that isn’t the case. Whiplash
can be very painful, and, as it turns out, a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.
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[email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash
so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but
that isn’t the case. Whiplash can be very painful, and, as it turns out,
a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.
How do car accidents compare on the whiplash front, with deliberates such a jumping from a bridge?
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Spike
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From
Mike Collins@21:1/5 to
Spike on Mon May 29 06:08:57 2023
On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:48:15 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:13:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
Have a lie-in today, did we?
--
Spike
Is there a point you are failing to make?
There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
--
Spike
So enlighten me
Docendo discimus
ICBA
--
Spike
So you have no point.
Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
--
Spike
As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error >>> tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
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Spike
So you are not mature enough to admit you have no point.
Nelson got away with putting the telescope to his blind eye, but that technique isn’t working for you.
--
Spike
So you are still not mature enough to admit you have no point.
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On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC+1,
[email protected] wrote:
When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but that isn’t the case. Whiplash
can be very painful, and, as it turns out, a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.
Whiplash is associated with having an accident in a car, causing the driver's neck to move forward and backwards like a whip. Usually these accidents occur at low speed; most people don't see a doctor as they don't think anything is wrong. But soon after
the accident, they may start noticing pain in their head, neck and jaw. This family of symptoms is called whiplash-associated disorder, and it is notoriously difficult to diagnose.
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From
JNugent@21:1/5 to
All on Mon May 29 17:04:31 2023
On 29/05/2023 04:20 pm,
[email protected]...
...pretending not to answer others, says
On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but that isn’t the case.
Whiplash can be very painful, and, as it turns out, a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.
Whiplash is associated with having an accident in a car, causing the driver's neck to move forward and backwards like a whip. Usually these accidents occur at low speed; most people don't see a doctor as they don't think anything is wrong. But soon
after the accident, they may start noticing pain in their head, neck and jaw. This family of symptoms is called whiplash-associated disorder, and it is notoriously difficult to diagnose.
You mean it is notoriously difficult to disprove when an insurance claim
sets in.
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Whiplash is neck injury caused by sudden, vigorous head movement in one direction, then back again quickly, often caused during a motor vehicle accident.
You may just feel uncomfortable on the day of the injury, while your pain, swelling and bruising may increase over the following days.
Your symptoms are likely to improve over about one week, but some people take longer to recover.
Whiplash injury affects soft tissue, so it doesn’t show up on x-rays.
If your neck pain is the result of a motor vehicle accident or another injury, see your doctor.
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[email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
Whiplash is neck injury caused by sudden, vigorous head movement in
one direction, then back again quickly, often caused during a motor vehicle accident.
You may just feel uncomfortable on the day of the injury, while your pain, swelling and bruising may increase over the following days.
Your symptoms are likely to improve over about one week, but some
people take longer to recover.
Whiplash injury affects soft tissue, so it doesn’t show up on x-rays.
If your neck pain is the result of a motor vehicle accident or
another injury, see your doctor.
There are other causes of pains in the neck, psychotic cyclists in
newsgroups being a prominent source.
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Spike
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A traumatic brain injury (TBI) is an injury to the brain caused by a trauma to the head (head injury). Each year, around 160,000 people are admitted to hospital in the UK with a TBI, the effects of which can be devastating and lifelong. One of the
leading causes of this is road traffic incidents.
During a road traffic incident, the head can be rocked back and forth or rotated. The brain, which has space to move around in the skull, can be twisted, stretched and even torn in this process. Complications can follow, such as damage caused by lack of
oxygen, bleeding and swelling in the brain.
While head injuries can occur at low speeds, research has found that the higher the speed the car is travelling at, the greater the impact on the skull and the brain. Research that has investigated the effect of impact velocity (the speed of something
moving in a particular direction upon the point of impact) on the brain found that the risk of brain injury tripled when the impact velocity was doubled. Furthermore, research into car-pedestrian collisions found that a higher velocity caused a more
serious head injury.
The effects of brain injury can be devastating and last a lifetime. Even in the case of a mild head injury (otherwise known as concussion), problems with dizziness, nausea, confusion, sensitivity to light or inability to process or retain information can
last for several weeks. In some cases, symptoms such as memory problems, fatigue, headaches, depression and problems with thinking can continue for months, a condition known as post-concussion syndrome.
Moderate or severe head injuries can result in longer-term problems that can have a significant and detrimental impact – not only on the survivor’s life, but on those around them too. Partners can suddenly become carers. Friendships can fade away.
Behavioural and emotional changes, hormonal imbalances, difficulties with thinking and memory, communication and physical problems are all common effects of brain injury that can also affect a person’s ability to work, drive and partake in social
activities. Rehabilitation will likely be required as well as possible reliance on state welfare and long-term care.
Different parts of the brain are responsible for different skills, so damage limited to one specific area may only affect one skill. Conversely, widespread damage can cause a number of skills to be affected. In road traffic collision simulations, speeds
of 55km/h have been found to cause widespread damage across the brain regardless of the direction of impact whereas speeds of 25km/h had much less impact across the brain and damage predominantly occurred when hit from behind.
At Headway, we see too many lives ruined by brain injury. Many of those who need our help to rebuild their lives are people who have been involved in car crashes. The research in this area shows that reducing speed can have a significant impact on the
severity of brain injury.
A brain injury can happen to anyone, at any time, but there are things you can do to reduce the risk, such as driving at the speed limit. Remember, there's no need to speed.
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Can someone confirm that repetitive posts on the subject of traumatic brain injury could be a symptom of a traumatic brain injury?
[email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
A traumatic brain injury (TBI) is an injury to the brain caused by a
trauma to the head (head injury). Each year, around 160,000 people are admitted to hospital in the UK with a TBI, the effects of which can be devastating and lifelong. One of the leading causes of this is road traffic incidents.
During a road traffic incident, the head can be rocked back and forth or rotated. The brain, which has space to move around in the skull, can be twisted, stretched and even torn in this process. Complications can
follow, such as damage caused by lack of oxygen, bleeding and swelling in the brain.
While head injuries can occur at low speeds, research has found that the higher the speed the car is travelling at, the greater the impact on the skull and the brain. Research that has investigated the effect of impact velocity (the speed of something moving in a particular direction upon
the point of impact) on the brain found that the risk of brain injury
tripled when the impact velocity was doubled. Furthermore, research into car-pedestrian collisions found that a higher velocity caused a more serious head injury.
The effects of brain injury can be devastating and last a lifetime. Even
in the case of a mild head injury (otherwise known as concussion),
problems with dizziness, nausea, confusion, sensitivity to light or
inability to process or retain information can last for several weeks. In some cases, symptoms such as memory problems, fatigue, headaches,
depression and problems with thinking can continue for months, a
condition known as post-concussion syndrome.
Moderate or severe head injuries can result in longer-term problems that
can have a significant and detrimental impact – not only on the survivor’s life, but on those around them too. Partners can suddenly
become carers. Friendships can fade away. Behavioural and emotional
changes, hormonal imbalances, difficulties with thinking and memory, communication and physical problems are all common effects of brain
injury that can also affect a person’s ability to work, drive and partake in social activities. Rehabilitation will likely be required as well as possible reliance on state welfare and long-term care.
Different parts of the brain are responsible for different skills, so
damage limited to one specific area may only affect one skill.
Conversely, widespread damage can cause a number of skills to be
affected. In road traffic collision simulations, speeds of 55km/h have
been found to cause widespread damage across the brain regardless of the direction of impact whereas speeds of 25km/h had much less impact across
the brain and damage predominantly occurred when hit from behind.
At Headway, we see too many lives ruined by brain injury. Many of those
who need our help to rebuild their lives are people who have been
involved in car crashes. The research in this area shows that reducing
speed can have a significant impact on the severity of brain injury.
A brain injury can happen to anyone, at any time, but there are things
you can do to reduce the risk, such as driving at the speed limit.
Remember, there's no need to speed.
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During a car accident, your neck may suddenly jerk forward and backward. With your body restrained by a seat belt, your neck takes the brunt of the force. Moreover, a collision may cause your neck to move from side to side forcefully. Or you may get hit
by debris from inside or outside of the vehicle.
If you realise an accident is about to occur, you may tense up your muscles increasing your risk of muscle strain. This forceful action can damage ligaments, muscles, discs, nerves, joints, tendons, or bones.
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[email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
If you realise an accident is about to occur, you may tense up your
muscles increasing your risk of muscle strain. This forceful action can damage ligaments, muscles, discs, nerves, joints, tendons, or bones.
This does not apply to cyclists, as their modus is to monitor their front
axle as they cycle along, so they never see what they crashed into, and therefore cannot stress themselves in the manner described.
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The most common neck injury in a car accident is a soft tissue injury. Doctors sometimes diagnose these as whiplash, neck sprains, or neck strains. They are injuries to the ligaments, tendons, muscles, and other tissues of the neck.
If you have symptoms of a neck injury following a crash, you should see a doctor for a thorough evaluation as soon as possible. If the other driver caused the collision, a Long Island car accident attorney will file a claim or lawsuit to recover the cost
of this initial medical examination and related follow-up treatment, as well as your other costs.
In This Article
Understanding Whiplash Symptoms and Prognosis
Whiplash occurs after many types of collisions but is most common after a rear-end crash. It is the result of the head jerking back and forth or side to side during a collision. This happens because your seat belt, airbag, and other safety features hold
your body in place, but your head can move around freely.
When your head moves beyond your neck’s usual range of motion, it can cause strain, sprain, tearing, and other damage to the muscles, tendons, ligaments, nerves, and connective tissues of the neck, shoulders, and upper back.
Involved tissues and structures often include:
The posterior cervical spine and related tissues
The anterior cervical spine and related tissues
The trapezius muscles of the shoulders
Whiplash symptoms may occur quickly following the accident. Some people feel pain, stiffness, or a headache immediately. Others have no symptoms until hours later, the following morning, and sometimes, even as long as a few days after the accident. It is
very important that you doctor for an evaluation and diagnosis as soon as you have pain or other symptoms.
While most cases of whiplash heal with minimal treatment in a few weeks, this is not always true. Some people suffer chronic pain in their necks or upper backs, continuing headaches, memory concerns and fogginess, and a limited range of motion for an
extended period or even the rest of their lives.
According to the Mayo Clinic, this is more likely for those who had severe symptoms right away, including:
Severe neck pain
Very restricted range of motion
Pain that shoots down their arms
Those who have the most significantly impairing outcomes of this type of injury are more likely to have risk factors that include:
Having a previous whiplash diagnosis
Existing back injuries, even in another area of the spine
Advanced age
Higher-speed crashes
Sadly, we have seen many people who had more than one or even all of these risk factors. Their neck injury can be severe, extremely painful and create problems in all areas of their life. We believe that justice demands that such people receive the
compensation they deserve from the careless and reckless party that caused the accident and, in turn, the resulting injury.
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