The new licence conditions came into effect yesterday.
The changes are much expected from the consultation, with some aspects >coming into force later in the year.
<Https://www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2024/amateur-radio-more-freedom-to- >innovate>
Details here :-
<https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0029/278345/amateur-radi >o-general-notice-decision.pdf>
Overview is on page 1 and the detail in Appendix A1.
How is it going to affect you ?
Me ? Not a lot as I only operate on 50MHz and above these days and
the power limits are only going up on 50MHz and 144MHz of the bands I
use.
I might run an unattended beacon now and again .
I'll have a listen on 40m to see if the UK stations are noticeably
louder ;-)
Brian GM4DIJ
The new licence conditions came into effect yesterday.
How is allowing more power a license to innovate?
It will be strange to hear newcomers popping up with venerated (and
often famous) callsigns
On 23/02/2024 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
It will be strange to hear newcomers popping up with venerated (and
often famous) callsigns
Ian, you have a 1961-ish call and you had to be 14 to get a licence
which means you are at least 76. It's more likely that you will have
shuffled off your mortal coil and your own call get recycled than for
you to hear on the air many of calls from the old timers of your youth.
It shouldn't be something to worry you too much. It's just a brutal
fact of getting old.
How is allowing more power a license to innovate? Perhaps now, black appliance operators can stomp on each other during contests with more fractions of a S-unit?
In message <urcqas$173ue$[email protected]>, mm0fmf <[email protected]> writes
On 23/02/2024 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:August 1960, and I remember the day I got it - and my first QSO. Pity
It will be strange to hear newcomers popping up with venerated (and
often famous) callsigns
Ian, you have a 1961-ish call and you had to be 14 to get a licence
which means you are at least 76. It's more likely that you will have
shuffled off your mortal coil and your own call get recycled than for
you to hear on the air many of calls from the old timers of your
youth. It shouldn't be something to worry you too much. It's just a
brutal fact of getting old.
the one who grave-robs my callsign, as I'll be coming back to haunt the
one who gets it!
However, one change that I feel rather unhappy about is allowing the
on-air use of the secondary locator to be optional. Why is this
necessary? I understand that this is the primarily the result of
pressure from the dedicated contest groups who, having already got their single-letter callsigns, presumably feel that the removal of yet another character will gain them a few more milliseconds in which to earn a few
extra points. [And isn't it the contesters who have been hinting that a
kW would be nice to have?] Also, I believe that the dropping of a
regional locator goes along with OFCOM's database, which (AIUI) can no
longer handle a secondary locator, and therefore knows us all as simply
Gs and Ms.
In message <urcqas$173ue$[email protected]>, mm0fmf <[email protected]> writes
On 23/02/2024 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:August 1960, and I remember the day I got it - and my first QSO. Pity
It will be strange to hear newcomers popping up with venerated (and
often famous) callsigns
Ian, you have a 1961-ish call and you had to be 14 to get a licence
which means you are at least 76. It's more likely that you will have
shuffled off your mortal coil and your own call get recycled than for
you to hear on the air many of calls from the old timers of your
youth. It shouldn't be something to worry you too much. It's just a
brutal fact of getting old.
the one who grave-robs my callsign, as I'll be coming back to haunt the
one who gets it!
On 25/02/2024 13:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <urcqas$173ue$[email protected]>, mm0fmf <[email protected]> writes >>> On 23/02/2024 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
August 1960, and I remember the day I got it - and my first QSO. PityIt will be strange to hear newcomers popping up with venerated (and >>>>often famous) callsigns
Ian, you have a 1961-ish call and you had to be 14 to get a licence >>>which means you are at least 76. It's more likely that you will have >>>shuffled off your mortal coil and your own call get recycled than for
you to hear on the air many of calls from the old timers of your
youth. It shouldn't be something to worry you too much. It's just a >>>brutal fact of getting old.
the one who grave-robs my callsign, as I'll be coming back to haunt
the one who gets it!
Do you do the same to people who have bought your old cars and are
driving around using your registration plates?
In message <urcqas$173ue$[email protected]>, mm0fmf <[email protected]>
writes
On 23/02/2024 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:August 1960, and I remember the day I got it - and my first QSO. Pity
It will be strange to hear newcomers popping up with venerated (and
often famous) callsigns
Ian, you have a 1961-ish call and you had to be 14 to get a licence
which means you are at least 76. It's more likely that you will have
shuffled off your mortal coil and your own call get recycled than for
you to hear on the air many of calls from the old timers of your youth.
It shouldn't be something to worry you too much. It's just a brutal
fact of getting old.
the one who grave-robs my callsign, as I'll be coming back to haunt the
one who gets it!
In article <+gFMEXH$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
However, one change that I feel rather unhappy about is allowing the
on-air use of the secondary locator to be optional. Why is this
necessary? I understand that this is the primarily the result of
pressure from the dedicated contest groups who, having already got their
single-letter callsigns, presumably feel that the removal of yet another
character will gain them a few more milliseconds in which to earn a few
extra points. [And isn't it the contesters who have been hinting that a
kW would be nice to have?] Also, I believe that the dropping of a
regional locator goes along with OFCOM's database, which (AIUI) can no
longer handle a secondary locator, and therefore knows us all as simply
Gs and Ms.
There has been widespread opposition to making secondary locators
optional especially among the contesting and dxing fraternity. So much
so in that the UK HF contesting rules have already to be updated to make
them mandatory for entrants. Most amateurs are proud of living in GM, GW
etc and will keep using these regardless of what Ofcom would like.
As to power, many full licencees will certainly use their new 1kW, but
there again many have already been using it so guess we won't notice. I
am continuing to work the world with my QRP 5W with great success.
By and large a load of waffle and nothing much will change in the real
world.
73 Dave G3YMC
On 2/22/24 01:42, Brian Howie wrote:
The new licence conditions came into effect yesterday.
How is allowing more power a license to innovate? Perhaps now, black >appliance operators can stomp on each other during contests with more >fractions of a S-unit?
IMO, turning _down_ the power would encourage more innovation.
73.
--- Zach
N0ZGO
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland etc were >issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and later it was >included.
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland etc were >> issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and later it was >> included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have
to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will
have to now?
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland etc were >>> issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and later it was >>> included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have
to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will
have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or
even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another country just >?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other >licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them.
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by
region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think France has
a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland >France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who have a GM, >MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked.
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
In message <urph5u$eh4t$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland etc were
issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and later it was
included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have
to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will
have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or >>even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another country just >>?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other >>licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them.
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by >>region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think France has >>a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland >>France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who have a GM, >>MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked.
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
Jack Hum's callbook from the 1930s shows no distinction between
England, Scotland, Wales, NI etc. In fact the G prefix didn't exist.
There's an appended call book listing showing the G prefix , but not GM
, but there are GIs.
https://www.dokufunk.org/upload/g_callbook_20-34.pdf
It looks like we've reverted to post WW2 .
I've no idea when GM, GW etc were introduced. Late 40s early 50s?
In message <urph5u$eh4t$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland etc were
issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and later it was
included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have
to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will
have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or
even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another country just >> ?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other
licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them.
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by
region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think France has >> a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland
France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who have a GM,
MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked. >>
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
Jack Hum's callbook from the 1930s shows no distinction between England, Scotland, Wales, NI etc. In fact the G prefix didn't exist. There's an appended call book listing showing the G prefix , but not GM , but there
are GIs.
https://www.dokufunk.org/upload/g_callbook_20-34.pdf
It looks like we've reverted to post WW2 . I've no idea when GM, GW etc
were introduced. Late 40s early 50s?
Brian GM4DIJ
In message <urph5u$eh4t$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland etc were
issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and later it was
included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have
to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will
have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or >>even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another country just >>?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other >>licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them.
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by >>region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think France has >>a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland >>France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who have a GM, >>MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked.
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
Jack Hum's callbook from the 1930s shows no distinction between
England, Scotland, Wales, NI etc. In fact the G prefix didn't exist.
There's an appended call book listing showing the G prefix , but not GM
, but there are GIs.
https://www.dokufunk.org/upload/g_callbook_20-34.pdf
It looks like we've reverted to post WW2 . I've no idea when GM, GW etc
were introduced. Late 40s early 50s?
In message <[email protected]>, Brian Howie ><[email protected]> writes
In message <urph5u$eh4t$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writesWell, it's not immediately obvious when the change occurred. In the
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes >>>>
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland >>>>>etc were
issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and
later it was
included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have >>>> to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will
have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or >>>even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another country just >>>?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other >>>licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them.
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by >>>region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think France has >>>a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland >>>France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who have a GM,
MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked. >>>
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
Jack Hum's callbook from the 1930s shows no distinction between
England, Scotland, Wales, NI etc. In fact the G prefix didn't exist. >>There's an appended call book listing showing the G prefix , but not
GM , but there are GIs.
https://www.dokufunk.org/upload/g_callbook_20-34.pdf
It looks like we've reverted to post WW2 . I've no idea when GM, GW
etc were introduced. Late 40s early 50s?
monthly regional reports, in January 1935 there's
"Northern Ireland.
GI appears to be recovering from the festive
season, as an atmosphere of quiet prevails!"
(but no GI callsigns mentioned). But even at the end of 1935 the
Scottish 2-letter calls are still simply G, and the 2 and 3 +3-letter
calls still have no primary locator at all. By Dec 1935, GI's seem to
be regularly using GI (possibly because EI was already using EI?).
In message <[email protected]>, Ian Jackson <[email protected]> writes
In message <[email protected]>, Brian Howie
<[email protected]> writes
In message <urph5u$eh4t$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writesWell, it's not immediately obvious when the change occurred. In the
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes >>>>>
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland >>>>>> etc were
issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and
later it was
included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have >>>>> to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will >>>>> have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or >>>> even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another country just
?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other >>>> licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them. >>>>
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by
region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think France has
a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland >>>> France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who have a GM,
MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked. >>>>
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
Jack Hum's callbook from the 1930s shows no distinction between
England, Scotland, Wales, NI etc. In fact the G prefix didn't exist.
There's an appended call book listing showing the G prefix , but not
GM , but there are GIs.
https://www.dokufunk.org/upload/g_callbook_20-34.pdf
It looks like we've reverted to post WW2 . I've no idea when GM, GW
etc were introduced. Late 40s early 50s?
monthly regional reports, in January 1935 there's
"Northern Ireland.
GI appears to be recovering from the festive
season, as an atmosphere of quiet prevails!"
(but no GI callsigns mentioned). But even at the end of 1935 the
Scottish 2-letter calls are still simply G, and the 2 and 3 +3-letter
calls still have no primary locator at all. By Dec 1935, GI's seem to
be regularly using GI (possibly because EI was already using EI?).
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the W in
GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the W in
GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional >>reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported
as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this >>privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the
W in GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals.
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ian Jackson
<[email protected]> writes
In message <[email protected]>, Brian Howie
<[email protected]> writes
In message <urph5u$eh4t$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes >>>>> Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:Well, it's not immediately obvious when the change occurred. In the
In message <urmr0q$3oma7$[email protected]>, Brian <[email protected]> writes >>>>>>
As I recall, there was a period when licences to those in Scotland >>>>>>> etc were
issued without the M ( or W for Wales), whereas previously and
later it was
included.
For many tears haven't ALL UK callsigns been listed without the
secondary locator? Doesn't (say) a GM operating abroad under CEPT have >>>>>> to drop the Scottish bit, and simply use the G? Presumably they will >>>>>> have to now?
Interesting question.
Not that I know the answer.
I doubt anyone considered that. It is probably a CEPT level question or >>>>> even local country, eg France may expect F/ GM3ABC but another >>>>>country just
?/G3ABC
The identifiers were a UK ‘thing’. It is possible, officially, other >>>>> licensing authorities aren’t aware of them / don’t acknowledge them. >>>>>
Other countries use / used different methods to allocate callsigns by >>>>> region, where it was / is done. The US stopped doing it. I think >>>>>France has
a scheme, although more for former colonies etc than regions of mainland >>>>> France.
I’ve no strong feelings on the topic. I can understand those who >>>>>have a GM,
MW etc and perhaps have QSL cards, are Contest operators, etc being irked.
I am concerned about some of the other changes.
Jack Hum's callbook from the 1930s shows no distinction between
England, Scotland, Wales, NI etc. In fact the G prefix didn't exist.
There's an appended call book listing showing the G prefix , but not
GM , but there are GIs.
https://www.dokufunk.org/upload/g_callbook_20-34.pdf
It looks like we've reverted to post WW2 . I've no idea when GM, GW
etc were introduced. Late 40s early 50s?
monthly regional reports, in January 1935 there's
"Northern Ireland.
GI appears to be recovering from the festive
season, as an atmosphere of quiet prevails!"
(but no GI callsigns mentioned). But even at the end of 1935 the
Scottish 2-letter calls are still simply G, and the 2 and 3 +3-letter
calls still have no primary locator at all. By Dec 1935, GI's seem to
be regularly using GI (possibly because EI was already using EI?).
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported as
having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the W in
GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of some
G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these were
experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
I knew G2MI many years ago. I recall him relating how the rules not only >changed to and fro but were ‘flexible’. In theory, holders of artificial >aerial licences were very limited but still managed to make contacts which >defied the supposed design of their stations.
He always finished these stories with a chuckle or a wink.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals.
I seem to recall the pre WW2 licences were ‘Artificial Aerial Licences’ and
didn’t even have a G prefix - at least officially.
In message <ursa5j$168f1$[email protected]>, Jeff <[email protected]> writes
But not until the middle 60s. These were later discontinued for reasons
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported
as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the
W in GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals.
of security, because it was realised that most of these G5s identified
USA service personnel - and their holders were issued with 'normal'
callsigns instead. I think that many G5+3s have been re-issued (in the
past 10 years?), and certainly those that were never issued have, for
some time, been available to new licensees on request.
However, after further reading, I've found a few other 'special' G plus 3-letter callsigns with other numbers were also issued in the late 30s.
On 01/03/2024 10:20, Jeff wrote:
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
nationals.
There was (maybe is) an experimental licence class, with a G prefix,
but that was G9, and it was for commercial development, not amateur use.
<https://hamradio.org.uk/uk-amateur-radio-call-signs/> although I've
been aware of their existence for decades.
On 01/03/2024 10:20, Jeff wrote:
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals.
There was (maybe is) an experimental licence class, with a G prefix, but
that was G9, and it was for commercial development, not amateur use.
<https://hamradio.org.uk/uk-amateur-radio-call-signs/> although I've
been aware of their existence for decades.
the police used to have several M-prefix callsigns (in the days of
'Calling all cars'?).
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements
On 01/03/2024 10:20, Jeff wrote:
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals.
There was (maybe is) an experimental licence class, with a G prefix, but
that was G9, and it was for commercial development, not amateur use.
<https://hamradio.org.uk/uk-amateur-radio-call-signs/> although I've
been aware of their existence for decades.
In message <ursa5j$168f1$[email protected]>, Jeff <[email protected]> writes
But not until the middle 60s. These were later discontinued for reasons
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported
as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the
W in GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals.
of security, because it was realised that most of these G5s identified
USA service personnel - and their holders were issued with 'normal'
callsigns instead. I think that many G5+3s have been re-issued (in the
past 10 years?), and certainly those that were never issued have, for
some time, been available to new licensees on request.
However, after further reading, I've found a few other 'special' G plus 3-letter callsigns with other numbers were also issued in the late 30s.
On 01/03/2024 22:58, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <ursa5j$168f1$[email protected]>, Jeff <[email protected]> writes
But not until the middle 60s. These were later discontinued for reasons
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported
as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the
W in GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these >>>> were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals. >>>
of security, because it was realised that most of these G5s identified
USA service personnel - and their holders were issued with 'normal'
callsigns instead. I think that many G5+3s have been re-issued (in the
past 10 years?), and certainly those that were never issued have, for
some time, been available to new licensees on request.
However, after further reading, I've found a few other 'special' G plus
3-letter callsigns with other numbers were also issued in the late 30s.
The G9XXX series were non-amateur experimental call signs, not limited
to use in amateur bands. They usually had spot frequencies allocated in
the licence.
I've operated under several G9 calls doing trials for various companies.
Ian Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <ursa5j$168f1$[email protected]>, Jeff <[email protected]> writes
But not until the middle 60s. These were later discontinued for reasons
Further to my previous ramblings, I have found that in the regional
reports in the March 1937 issue of the T&R Bulletin, GMs are reported
as having been granted the M in GM. There is a reference to "this
privilege" being allowed this before, but it having been removed. All
the radiating callsigns in the regional report for Scotland are GMs.
Wales followed later (reported in August 1937) by being granted the
W in GW.
Just glancing through the pages, I notice the occasional mention of
some G5xxx callsigns. Without further research, I suspect that these
were experimental callsigns for the 56MHz band.
Certainly post war G5XXX were reciprocal licences for foreign nationals. >>>
of security, because it was realised that most of these G5s identified
USA service personnel - and their holders were issued with 'normal'
callsigns instead. I think that many G5+3s have been re-issued (in the
past 10 years?), and certainly those that were never issued have, for
some time, been available to new licensees on request.
However, after further reading, I've found a few other 'special' G plus
3-letter callsigns with other numbers were also issued in the late 30s.
I recall them being changed / reissued - a friend was a G5+3 he was a US >citizen and retired USAF living here.
He was given the option of either a new G0 immediately or waiting for one
he wanted to ‘come around’ - at the time they didn’t issue out of >sequence-
which he did. He was a late G0D
The G0 series were issued between 1986 and 1996.
However, after further reading, I've found a few other 'special' G plus
3-letter callsigns with other numbers were also issued in the late 30s.
The G9XXX series were non-amateur experimental call signs, not limited
to use in amateur bands. They usually had spot frequencies allocated in
the licence.
I've operated under several G9 calls doing trials for various companies.
Not quite on-topic, but out of interest…
When P-Popsie pulled up after its bombing run and the results of the strike were seen, it sent the following message back to base, in CW of course:
9SYV P GONER GONER AR
In the film the sequence was reversed, with the chap reading the CW saying “Goner…P Popsie…that is all”.
Historical note: ‘Popsie’ was the appreciative term applied to pretty young
ladies.
However, after further reading, I've found a few other 'special' G plus >>>> 3-letter callsigns with other numbers were also issued in the late 30s. >>>The G9XXX series were non-amateur experimental call signs, not limited
to use in amateur bands. They usually had spot frequencies allocated in
the licence.
I've operated under several G9 calls doing trials for various companies.
Not quite on-topic, but out of interest…
When P-Popsie pulled up after its bombing run and the results of the strike >> were seen, it sent the following message back to base, in CW of course:
9SYV P GONER GONER AR
In the film the sequence was reversed, with the chap reading the CW saying >> “Goner…P Popsie…that is all”.
Historical note: ‘Popsie’ was the appreciative term applied to pretty young
ladies.
Also in versions of the film where the name of Gibson's dog have been overdubbed with a more acceptable name the morse message sent for the successful breach of the dam still includes the N word.
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