• Covid 19

    From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 18 06:12:22 2022
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Sat Jun 18 06:22:14 2022
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does she
    need to isolate?

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  • From Jin Stewart ...@21:1/5 to A. non Eyemouse on Sat Jun 18 09:11:26 2022
    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

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  • From A. non Eyemouse@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Sat Jun 18 09:01:32 2022
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    --
    Mouse.
    Where Morse meets House.

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 18 10:31:22 2022
    In message <t8k1be$ctb$[email protected]>, Jin Stewart ... <[email protected]> writes
    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does
    she need to isolate?
    She doesn't.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right
    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    'Twas reported that there was a 50% rise last week, and most of the
    cases were two variants of variant Delta.
    --
    Ian

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  • From A. non Eyemouse@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Sat Jun 18 11:39:20 2022
    On 18/06/2022 10:31, Ian Jackson wrote:
    In message <t8k1be$ctb$[email protected]>, Jin Stewart ... <[email protected]> writes
    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does
    she  need to isolate?
    She doesn't.
     https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right
     Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    Was this picked up by a routine test or did she test because of symptoms?


    'Twas reported that there was a 50% rise last week, and most of the
    cases were two variants of variant Delta.

    Since the UK abandoned the return from overseas testing and passenger
    locator, there's no controls on anything entering the country. Now the
    US have abandoned pre-flight testing and the wearing of masks on public transport, it's probably going to get interesting over there too.

    --
    Mouse.
    Where Morse meets House.

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 18 10:58:23 2022
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ...""
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible, as one should with flu. Just not compulsory.

    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Sat Jun 18 12:16:33 2022
    On 18/06/2022 11:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ..."" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does she >>>> need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible, as one should
    with flu. Just not compulsory.

    doing that running after her like a blue arsed fly ....talking in PMR

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Sun Jun 19 06:47:09 2022
    On 18/06/2022 12:16, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 11:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ...""
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does she >>>>> need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible, as
    one should
    with flu. Just not compulsory.

    doing that running after her like a blue arsed fly ....talking in PMR
    I have a pos test this morning ...was OK last night....been nice knowing
    you all.....

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Sun Jun 19 07:27:13 2022
    On 19/06/2022 06:47, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 12:16, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 11:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ...""
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does >>>>>> she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible, as
    one should
    with flu. Just not compulsory.

    doing that running after her like a blue arsed fly ....talking in PMR
    I have a pos test this morning ...was OK last night....been nice knowing
    you all.....
    that is some bloody form you have to fill in to get the special
    antiviral drugs.....

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Sun Jun 19 08:48:23 2022
    On 19/06/2022 07:27, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 19/06/2022 06:47, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 12:16, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 11:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ...""
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long
    does she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible, as
    one should
    with flu. Just not compulsory.

    doing that running after her like a blue arsed fly ....talking in PMR
    I have a pos test this morning ...was OK last night....been nice
    knowing you all.....
    that is some bloody form you have to fill in to get the special
    antiviral drugs.....
    no Newbury rally for me...just have to do another virtual trip....

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 19 10:50:41 2022
    In message <t8mkc8$gt8$[email protected]>, Jim Stewart ... <[email protected]> writes
    On 19/06/2022 07:27, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 19/06/2022 06:47, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 12:16, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 11:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ...""
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long >>>>>>>>does she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible,
    one should
    with flu. Just not compulsory.

    doing that running after her like a blue arsed fly ....talking in PMR
    I have a pos test this morning ...was OK last night....been nice
    knowing you all.....
    that is some bloody form you have to fill in to get the special
    antiviral drugs.....
    no Newbury rally for me...just have to do another virtual trip....

    You can't fool me. I reckon it's just another of your fortuitous
    excuses. But if you really ARE ill, I hope you get well enough for the McMichael rally (17 July)!
    https://mcmichaelrally.org.uk
    --
    Ian

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Sun Jun 19 12:41:33 2022
    On 19/06/2022 10:50, Ian Jackson wrote:
    In message <t8mkc8$gt8$[email protected]>, Jim Stewart ... <[email protected]> writes
    On 19/06/2022 07:27, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 19/06/2022 06:47, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 12:16, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 11:58, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2022 at 09:11:26 BST, ""Jin Stewart ...""
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long >>>>>>>>> does she
    need to isolate?
    She doesn't.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right

    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    It's still probably public-spirited to self-isolate if possible,
    one should
    with flu. Just not compulsory.

    doing that running after her like a blue arsed fly ....talking in PMR >>>> I have a pos test this morning ...was OK last night....been nice
    knowing you all.....
    that is some bloody form you have to fill in to get the special
    antiviral drugs.....
    no Newbury rally for me...just have to do another virtual trip....

    You can't fool me. I reckon it's just another of your fortuitous
    excuses. But if you really ARE ill, I hope you get well enough for the McMichael rally (17 July)!

    How can you doubt me...tee hee...just waiting for the anti viral drugs
    to arrive by taxi......

    https://mcmichaelrally.org.uk
    yip mcmichael rally is good but Newbury is better

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Sun Jun 19 17:34:32 2022
    On 19/06/2022 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 06:47:09 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have a pos test this morning

    Incomprehensible why anyone is (still) testing using tests that are
    known to be 9/10ths of useless.

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    oh right

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Sun Jun 19 17:22:18 2022
    On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 06:47:09 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have a pos test this morning

    Incomprehensible why anyone is (still) testing using tests that are
    known to be 9/10ths of useless.

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Mon Jun 20 17:53:04 2022
    On 19/06/2022 17:34, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 19/06/2022 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 06:47:09 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have a pos test this morning

    Incomprehensible why anyone is (still) testing using tests that are
    known to be 9/10ths of useless.

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    oh right
    got my four in the morning four at night anti virals.....I may survive

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Mon Jun 20 19:13:37 2022
    On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:53:04 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    oh right
    got my four in the morning four at night anti virals.....I may survive

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From brian@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 21 01:17:42 2022
    In message <[email protected]>, Ian Jackson <[email protected]> writes
    In message <t8k1be$ctb$[email protected]>, Jin Stewart ... ><[email protected]> writes
    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does
    she need to isolate?
    She doesn't.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right
    Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    'Twas reported that there was a 50% rise last week, and most of the
    cases were two variants of variant Delta.

    I'm just back from Shetland. It's the first time I've flown for years. I
    nearly always got a nasty bug when flying. I wore a mask, but most of
    the others didn't .

    Watch this space.

    Brian GM4DIJ
    --
    Brian Howie

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Tue Jun 21 07:13:16 2022
    On 20/06/2022 19:13, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:53:04 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    oh right
    got my four in the morning four at night anti virals.....I may survive

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.


    well I can feel them working .....

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to brian on Tue Jun 21 07:11:35 2022
    On 21/06/2022 01:17, brian wrote:
    In message <[email protected]>, Ian Jackson <[email protected]> writes
    In message <t8k1be$ctb$[email protected]>, Jin Stewart ...
    <[email protected]> writes
    On 6/18/2022 9:01 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:22, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 18/06/2022 06:12, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    The wife has covid ... guess I'm next ......
    Guess I won't be going to the Newbury rally then?....how long does
    she  need to isolate?
    She doesn't.
     https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61261297

    oh right
     Hope the symptoms are mild though.

    very

    'Twas reported that there was a 50% rise last week, and most of the
    cases were two variants of variant Delta.

    I'm just back from Shetland. It's the first time I've flown for years. I nearly always got a nasty bug when flying. I wore a mask, but most of
    the others didn't .

    Watch this space.

    Brian GM4DIJ
    dum di dum dum ......

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Custos Custodum on Tue Jun 21 10:48:12 2022
    On 21/06/2022 10:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:13:37 +0100, Brian Morrison
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:53:04 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    oh right
    got my four in the morning four at night anti virals.....I may survive

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any
    anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.
    indeed ....that is what it says on the box.....

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  • From Custos Custodum@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 21 10:43:48 2022
    On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:13:37 +0100, Brian Morrison
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:53:04 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    Before all this nonsense we knew when we were ill and stayed home.

    oh right
    got my four in the morning four at night anti virals.....I may survive

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any >anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to brian on Tue Jun 21 18:14:18 2022
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 01:17:42 +0100
    brian <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wore a mask

    Masks of the common varieties seen about are essentially unable to deal
    with particles of a few um or smaller

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Tue Jun 21 18:41:05 2022
    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any
    anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Custos Custodum on Tue Jun 21 18:17:05 2022
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any >anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Tue Jun 21 21:19:10 2022
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Tue Jun 21 22:05:07 2022
    On 21 Jun 2022 at 18:17:05 BST, "Brian Morrison" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any
    anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    OTOH, some of them *have* been proved to have significant value if given shortly after the onset of symptoms, but are reserved for people at high risk for a number of reasons, none of them related to amateur radio.
    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Wed Jun 22 05:24:36 2022
    On 21/06/2022 23:05, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 21 Jun 2022 at 18:17:05 BST, "Brian Morrison" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    Accepting that you have immuno-suppressing drugs, I am unsure if any
    anti-virals are what they are cracked up to be.

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    OTOH, some of them *have* been proved to have significant value if given shortly after the onset of symptoms, but are reserved for people at high risk for a number of reasons, none of them related to amateur radio.
    Oh right I will shut up then.......

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Wed Jun 22 15:00:16 2022
    On 21/06/2022 21:19, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.

    why bother? I just take what I am given....

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Wed Jun 22 13:17:01 2022
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim’s ‘stories’?

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  • From Rambo@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jun 22 14:55:15 2022
    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:51:21 +0100, "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 22/06/2022 14:17, Brian wrote:
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus. >>>>>> The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant >>>>> history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are >>>>> intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to >>>>> have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim�s �stories�?



    It never occured to me you would think that ....
    He's even jealous of you having covid !

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian on Wed Jun 22 14:51:21 2022
    On 22/06/2022 14:17, Brian wrote:
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim’s ‘stories’?



    It never occured to me you would think that ....

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Rambo on Wed Jun 22 15:00:47 2022
    On 22/06/2022 14:55, Rambo wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:51:21 +0100, "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 22/06/2022 14:17, Brian wrote:
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus. >>>>>>> The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant >>>>>> history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are >>>>>> intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to >>>>>> have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you >>>> have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim’s ‘stories’?



    It never occured to me you would think that ....
    He's even jealous of you having covid !
    but what can you do .....

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian on Wed Jun 22 15:29:58 2022
    On 22/06/2022 14:17, Brian wrote:
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim’s ‘stories’?



    I can tell I deeply hurt you with the 'I got beat up' prank....however
    it was based on fact in that white van man did threaten to kick my head
    in live on 2m fm ....

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Wed Jun 22 16:01:01 2022
    On 21 Jun 2022 22:05:07 GMT
    Roger Hayter <[email protected]> wrote:

    OTOH, some of them *have* been proved to have significant value if given shortly after the onset of symptoms, but are reserved for people at high risk for a number of reasons

    Indeed, my wife was given a dose of an anti-viral when she had Shingles
    a couple of years ago.

    That worked, but there are others (Tamiflu) that are not effective.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Rambo on Wed Jun 22 15:26:09 2022
    On 22/06/2022 14:55, Rambo wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:51:21 +0100, "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 22/06/2022 14:17, Brian wrote:
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus. >>>>>>> The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant >>>>>> history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are >>>>>> intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to >>>>>> have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you >>>> have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim’s ‘stories’?



    It never occured to me you would think that ....
    He's even jealous of you having covid !
    he was just wanting to embelish it and say a 'fellow radio ham' gave it
    to me ...tee hee

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Wed Jun 22 16:09:25 2022
    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 15:00:16 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 21:19, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    [...]
    [...]
    [...]
    [...]
    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.

    why bother? I just take what I am given....

    It's up to you what you do. I take a slightly different approach, some
    of the things I have been prescribed are attacking the wrong problem
    due to how the food industry has gerrymandered nutrition guidelines.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Wed Jun 22 17:02:51 2022
    On 22/06/2022 16:09, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 15:00:16 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 21:19, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    [...]
    [...]
    [...]
    [...]
    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.

    why bother? I just take what I am given....

    It's up to you what you do. I take a slightly different approach, some
    of the things I have been prescribed are attacking the wrong problem
    due to how the food industry has gerrymandered nutrition guidelines.

    that's a shame.....

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Wed Jun 22 16:07:15 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022 at 16:01:01 BST, "Brian Morrison" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21 Jun 2022 22:05:07 GMT
    Roger Hayter <[email protected]> wrote:

    OTOH, some of them *have* been proved to have significant value if given
    shortly after the onset of symptoms, but are reserved for people at high risk
    for a number of reasons

    Indeed, my wife was given a dose of an anti-viral when she had Shingles
    a couple of years ago.

    That worked, but there are others (Tamiflu) that are not effective.

    The ones licensed for Covid have recent trial evidence of efficacy. I acknowledge that in the fullness of time this may or may not turn out to be valid.

    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Wed Jun 22 17:07:41 2022
    On 22/06/2022 16:01, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On 21 Jun 2022 22:05:07 GMT
    Roger Hayter <[email protected]> wrote:

    OTOH, some of them *have* been proved to have significant value if given
    shortly after the onset of symptoms, but are reserved for people at high risk
    for a number of reasons

    Indeed, my wife was given a dose of an anti-viral when she had Shingles
    a couple of years ago.

    That worked, but there are others (Tamiflu) that are not effective.

    I'm on MOLNUPIRAVIR


    https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/molnupiravir/

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Brian on Wed Jun 22 17:01:47 2022
    On 22/06/2022 14:17, Brian wrote:
    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:41:05 +0100
    "Jim Stewart ..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 21/06/2022 18:17, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:43:48 +0100
    Custos Custodum <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Anti-virals act by directly impairing the functioning of the virus.
    The immune system is not involved.

    I mentioned immuno-suppression because I am aware of Jim's transplant
    history. I know what anti-virals are intended to do and how they are
    intended to do it, I am also aware that some of them are not known to
    have any useful effects after studies on efficacy.

    that's right cheer me up why don't you ......

    You can do your own research Jim, it's not hard. I don't know what you
    have been given I'm just pointing out that not all drugs do what they
    say on the box.


    Has it occurred to you this is another of Jim’s ‘stories’?



    has it occurred to you Brian that You didn't believe my transplant and I
    had to provide photographs......then you didn't believe I was kept in
    over night at a hospital day visit a couple of years ago and left my
    lights on and I had to show you the AA report....and now you don't
    believe that I am on anti viral drugs having tested pos for
    covid....what are you wanting now photographs of my test and the drug prescription label ?....has it occured to you you are constantly making
    a fool of yourself ? ....

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Wed Jun 22 17:29:50 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022 16:07:15 GMT
    Roger Hayter <[email protected]> wrote:

    That worked, but there are others (Tamiflu) that are not effective.

    The ones licensed for Covid have recent trial evidence of efficacy. I acknowledge that in the fullness of time this may or may not turn out to be valid.

    Ain't that the truth!

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim Stewart ...@21:1/5 to Jim Stewart ... on Thu Jun 23 05:53:24 2022
    On 22/06/2022 17:07, Jim Stewart ... wrote:
    On 22/06/2022 16:01, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On 21 Jun 2022 22:05:07 GMT
    Roger Hayter <[email protected]> wrote:

    OTOH, some of them *have* been proved to have significant value if given >>> shortly after the onset of symptoms, but are reserved for people at
    high risk
    for a number of reasons

    Indeed, my wife was given a dose of an anti-viral when she had Shingles
    a couple of years ago.

    That worked, but there are others (Tamiflu) that are not effective.

    I'm on MOLNUPIRAVIR


    https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/molnupiravir/
    it worked only got a faint line on the LFT this morning and this is
    only day three of five.....

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