• Bath shower mixer taps - thermostatic or not?

    From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 10:22:36 2025
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 12:45:00 2025
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Probably not

    But it is a nice to have and its not THAT much more

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.



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  • From fred@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 11:50:36 2025
    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote in news:687cc252.271170562 @news.eternal-september.org:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?


    Absolutely! I got fed up having to instruct visitors on how to balance my
    old mixer tap fed shower so swapped to thermostatic as it is obvious to
    anyone how to use it and it handles fluctations in pressure and water temperature easily. Particularly useful as you have a combi and any other
    hot water demands will change the hot water flow temperature.

    I wont suggest a make/model as I too am planning a bathroom refurb and just went for a half decent budget model, still works. I wouldn't go too cheap
    for yours but it doesn't need to be a big brand.

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 13:12:15 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:22:36 GMT
    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.



    Definitely yes. Make sure it's a specific combi type, those intended
    for low pressure boilers will sort of work, but not as well.

    If you're intending long term use, try to find out what the
    thermostatic unit model number is, they do need refurbishing after a
    number of years, when a seal hardens or flattens. I bought a fairly
    cheap one for a bedroom shower refurbishment about 35 years ago, and
    had a new bathroom installed about twenty years ago. Both units look
    very different externally but by good luck, they both use the same
    cartridge, replacements for which and seal kits are still available.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to fred on Sun Jul 20 13:02:19 2025
    On 20/07/2025 12:50, fred wrote:
    I wont suggest a make/model as I too am planning a bathroom refurb and just went for a half decent budget model, still works. I wouldn't go too cheap
    for yours but it doesn't need to be a big brand.

    Cant remember what make mine are - I have two plus two non thermo, but I
    went for decent quality but no fancy gimmicks, The shower is the
    opposite end to the taps in my one 'shower in the bath' setup.



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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Joe on Sun Jul 20 14:12:04 2025
    On 20/07/2025 13:12, Joe wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:22:36 GMT
    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.



    Definitely yes. Make sure it's a specific combi type, those intended
    for low pressure boilers will sort of work, but not as well.

    If you're intending long term use, try to find out what the
    thermostatic unit model number is, they do need refurbishing after a
    number of years, when a seal hardens or flattens. I bought a fairly
    cheap one for a bedroom shower refurbishment about 35 years ago, and
    had a new bathroom installed about twenty years ago. Both units look
    very different externally but by good luck, they both use the same
    cartridge, replacements for which and seal kits are still available.

    +1 . Mine has done 23 years and looks brand new (water softener!)

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  • From Alan Lee@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 14:16:28 2025
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 13:19:54 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:22:36 +0000, AnthonyL wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.

    Absolutely go for thermostatic.

    Much safer (scald risk) and easier to use with minimal training.

    Cheers




    Dave R


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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sun Jul 20 14:26:59 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:12:04 +0100
    The Natural Philosopher <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 20/07/2025 13:12, Joe wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:22:36 GMT
    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate
    taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.



    Definitely yes. Make sure it's a specific combi type, those intended
    for low pressure boilers will sort of work, but not as well.

    If you're intending long term use, try to find out what the
    thermostatic unit model number is, they do need refurbishing after a
    number of years, when a seal hardens or flattens. I bought a fairly
    cheap one for a bedroom shower refurbishment about 35 years ago, and
    had a new bathroom installed about twenty years ago. Both units look
    very different externally but by good luck, they both use the same cartridge, replacements for which and seal kits are still available.

    +1 . Mine has done 23 years and looks brand new (water softener!)


    The one I have has a rubber ring about an inch in diameter which closes
    against a backplate to shut off the water completely. As it spends very
    nearly all its time closed, the ring goes flat against the plate, and
    after some years, doesn't press hard enough to seal. It seems to last
    for about ten years or so, by which time many people will have moved
    house. After my two had both needed refurbishing and were the same
    kind, I bought a whole cartridge and the next time the shower dripped,
    just swapped it over and replaced the seals and added some grease at my leisure.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Alan Lee on Sun Jul 20 15:47:08 2025
    Alan Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

    +1. It's an end to fighting the toilet refill or the washing machine fill.
    You might lose a bit of pressure but at least thermostatic will keep the temperature constant.

    Theo

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 20 15:22:01 2025
    On 20 Jul 2025 15:47:08 +0100 (BST), Theo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Alan Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

    +1. It's an end to fighting the toilet refill or the washing machine fill. >You might lose a bit of pressure but at least thermostatic will keep the >temperature constant.


    Thanks to all who have pointed me to the right direction.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Alan Lee on Sun Jul 20 16:46:23 2025
    On 20/07/2025 14:16, Alan Lee wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

    Bear in mind on a Combi. you have no hope of ever keeping more than one
    hot tap running full bore at a time, unless its as big as a dog kennel

    So don't expect miracles

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Theo on Sun Jul 20 16:47:04 2025
    On 20/07/2025 15:47, Theo wrote:
    Alan Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

    +1. It's an end to fighting the toilet refill or the washing machine fill. You might lose a bit of pressure but at least thermostatic will keep the temperature constant.


    After 5 seconds delay...

    Theo

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sun Jul 20 17:52:02 2025
    The Natural Philosopher <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 15:47, Theo wrote:
    Alan Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps. >>>

    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

    +1. It's an end to fighting the toilet refill or the washing machine fill. You might lose a bit of pressure but at least thermostatic will keep the temperature constant.


    After 5 seconds delay...

    Not here.

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 20:05:48 2025
    On 20 Jul 2025 at 11:22:36 BST, AnthonyL wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.

    FWIW I fitted one of these to my combi HW system:

    https://www.toolstation.com/deva-lincoln-thermostatic-shower-valve/p86992

    No complaints.

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Sun Jul 20 21:40:18 2025
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Yes.

    Longer answer? The cold temperature varies with weather, so the mix you
    need changes too.

    Ours even keeps it steady when the toilet next to it stops refilling.

    Andy

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 21 20:10:22 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:05:48 -0000 (UTC), RJH <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 20 Jul 2025 at 11:22:36 BST, AnthonyL wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.

    FWIW I fitted one of these to my combi HW system:

    https://www.toolstation.com/deva-lincoln-thermostatic-shower-valve/p86992

    No complaints.


    Feels like a silly question but what are the controls? I am only
    familiar with an old Mira 415 (similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126102170875) that has a great big knob
    that turns anti-clockwise to go from cold to hot. This is installed
    in another room.

    Is it just a matter of turning each end (hot and cold) and it then
    that temperature is maintained.

    Bathroom installer wants to ditch this for https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/mira-excel-ev-mixer-shower-11518300-426-13633, somewhat pricey.

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  • From fred@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Mon Jul 21 21:40:25 2025
    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote in news:[email protected]:


    Feels like a silly question but what are the controls? I am only
    familiar with an old Mira 415 (similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126102170875) that has a great big knob
    that turns anti-clockwise to go from cold to hot. This is installed
    in another room.

    Is it just a matter of turning each end (hot and cold) and it then
    that temperature is maintained.

    Bathroom installer wants to ditch this for https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/mira-excel-ev-mixer-shower-11518300-426-1
    3633, somewhat pricey.


    You asked about combined bath tap/shower mixers which would be
    simpler/cheaper (only one unit to buy and simpler installation) but if
    you wish to have them separate (and pay the extra labout cost of the in-
    wall piping) then there is no need to pay the price of that Mira item.

    As an example Ikea have well made units at reasonable prices and with 10
    year guarantees, examples below.

    The benefit of bar mixers is that if they do go wrong they are very easy
    to replace as the pipe spacing is standard. And yes, it is temp setting
    at one end and on-off at the other, dead easy.

    Mixer 69 quid: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/vallamosse-thermostatic-shower-mixer-chrome- plated-10349655/
    or https://preview.tinyurl.com/5n7upu8v

    Rail & head 25 quid: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/vallamosse-riser-rail-with-handshower-kit- chrome-plated-70506831/
    or https://tinyurl.com/bdh2y6mb

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  • From fred@21:1/5 to fred on Mon Jul 21 21:51:06 2025
    fred <[email protected]> wrote in news:dtyfQ.57607$[email protected]:

    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote in news:[email protected]:


    Feels like a silly question but what are the controls? I am only
    familiar with an old Mira 415 (similar to
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126102170875) that has a great big knob
    that turns anti-clockwise to go from cold to hot. This is installed
    in another room.

    Is it just a matter of turning each end (hot and cold) and it then
    that temperature is maintained.

    Bathroom installer wants to ditch this for
    https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/mira-excel-ev-mixer-shower-11518300-426-
    1 3633, somewhat pricey.


    You asked about combined bath tap/shower mixers which would be simpler/cheaper (only one unit to buy and simpler installation) but if
    you wish to have them separate (and pay the extra labout cost of the
    in- wall piping) then there is no need to pay the price of that Mira
    item.

    As an example Ikea have well made units at reasonable prices and with
    10 year guarantees, examples below.

    The benefit of bar mixers is that if they do go wrong they are very
    easy to replace as the pipe spacing is standard. And yes, it is temp
    setting at one end and on-off at the other, dead easy.

    Mixer 69 quid: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/vallamosse-thermostatic-shower-mixer-chrom
    e- plated-10349655/
    or https://preview.tinyurl.com/5n7upu8v

    Rail & head 25 quid: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/vallamosse-riser-rail-with-handshower-kit- chrome-plated-70506831/
    or https://tinyurl.com/bdh2y6mb



    Here's an example of a combined bath filling tap & shower hose outlet
    (it's at the bottom). Probably not at neat as a separate unit with the
    hose potentially getting in the way but it depends on your planned bath/bathroom layout. Add a rail and shower head of your choice:

    �225.99
    https://www.screwfix.com/p/ideal-standard-ceratherm-t25-exposed-single- outlet-thermostatic-chrome-bath-shower-mixer-valve/264jy
    or https://preview.tinyurl.com/bcekmtcd

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  • From Indy Jess John@21:1/5 to Alan Lee on Mon Jul 21 23:33:50 2025
    On 20/07/2025 14:16, Alan Lee wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:22, AnthonyL wrote:
    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?
    Yes, theres nothing worse than getting the shower at the correct
    temperature, then someone elsewhere turning on a tap to give you too
    hot, or cold a shower for a minute. Get the thermostatic.

    I have a reasonably sized bathroom and with a bit of juggling paper
    shapes on graph paper I worked out how to get separate bath and shower
    cubicles into the room alongside washbasin and toilet.

    Expecting relatives to stay overnight occasionally, fitting the shower
    with a thermostatic control was a no-brainer. The shower has a
    temperature dial from 0 to 6, which made it easy for shower users to
    remember which number was right for them. On installation there was a
    maximum temperature "set and forget" screw where the maximum possible temperature could be adjusted, so that even if the hot water was nearly
    boiling it would mix the right amount of cold to limit the highest
    temperature delivered to the shower head.

    I fitted the bath with a mixer tap so that hot and cold taps mingled to
    give the resulting temperature water. There is also an up or down
    control that chooses between spout or shower head output, because I like
    to wash my hair while I am in the bath and the shower head made that
    possible. I didn't bother with a thermostatic control on the bath but I
    have regretted the omission ever since. I found that it was impossible
    to set the mix to fill the bath to the temperature I want. It was
    always too hot or too cold and needed extra hot or cold to get the water temperature right, and there is nothing worse that being part way
    through rinsing my hair after getting the temperature right and having
    someone turn a tap on in the kitchen and either boiling or freezing my head.

    If you can get thermostatic controls, my advice is to spend that bit
    extra and go for them. You won't regret it.

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Tue Jul 22 01:21:59 2025
    On 21 Jul 2025 at 21:10:22 BST, AnthonyL wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:05:48 -0000 (UTC), RJH <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 20 Jul 2025 at 11:22:36 BST, AnthonyL wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps.


    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.

    FWIW I fitted one of these to my combi HW system:

    https://www.toolstation.com/deva-lincoln-thermostatic-shower-valve/p86992

    No complaints.


    Feels like a silly question but what are the controls? I am only
    familiar with an old Mira 415 (similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126102170875) that has a great big knob
    that turns anti-clockwise to go from cold to hot. This is installed
    in another room.

    Is it just a matter of turning each end (hot and cold) and it then
    that temperature is maintained.


    No - one end adjusts the temperature, the other is on/off.

    The temperature has a preset 38C, and the knob has an indentation that clicks at that temperature position. The instructions give some guidance on ajusting the preset but it all looked too convoluted. 38C is a little too cool for me
    so I manually adjusted the knob just outside the indent. I end up doing this
    in most hotels I stay at too.

    Works really well. Temperature seems consistent whatever the weather and I've not touched the temperature control once.

    Bathroom installer wants to ditch this for https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/mira-excel-ev-mixer-shower-11518300-426-13633, somewhat pricey.

    Flip. Mine was less than £50 including a stainless steel hose and basic shower head. I did however buy a fixing kit:

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/swirl-bar-valve-wall-mount-fixing-kit-chrome/8669h

    I can't remember why - I think it made fitting easier. 15 quid though. Must have been necessary as most unlike me to splash out, as it were.

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 23 12:32:22 2025
    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 01:21:59 -0000 (UTC), RJH <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 21 Jul 2025 at 21:10:22 BST, AnthonyL wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:05:48 -0000 (UTC), RJH <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 20 Jul 2025 at 11:22:36 BST, AnthonyL wrote:

    Planning to get a new bathroom fitted and to have a shower over the
    bath.

    I guess options are combined bath shower mixer, or even separate taps. >>>>

    But assuming we go combined is a thermostatic unit worth the extra
    expense?

    Both hot and cold are at mains pressure and we have fairly recently
    fitted a new combi boiler.

    FWIW I fitted one of these to my combi HW system:

    https://www.toolstation.com/deva-lincoln-thermostatic-shower-valve/p86992 >>>
    No complaints.


    Feels like a silly question but what are the controls? I am only
    familiar with an old Mira 415 (similar to
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126102170875) that has a great big knob
    that turns anti-clockwise to go from cold to hot. This is installed
    in another room.

    Is it just a matter of turning each end (hot and cold) and it then
    that temperature is maintained.


    No - one end adjusts the temperature, the other is on/off.

    The temperature has a preset 38C, and the knob has an indentation that clicks >at that temperature position. The instructions give some guidance on ajusting >the preset but it all looked too convoluted. 38C is a little too cool for me >so I manually adjusted the knob just outside the indent. I end up doing this >in most hotels I stay at too.

    Works really well. Temperature seems consistent whatever the weather and I've >not touched the temperature control once.


    Thanks, I must have encountered these in the past without particularly
    giving them any thought until now when I have to choose what I want.
    Makes emminent sense.

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  • From fred@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Wed Jul 23 13:01:30 2025
    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 21:40:25 GMT, fred <[email protected]> wrote:

    You asked about combined bath tap/shower mixers which would be >>simpler/cheaper (only one unit to buy and simpler installation) but if

    I indeed did

    you wish to have them separate (and pay the extra labout cost of the
    in- wall piping) then there is no need to pay the price of that Mira
    item.


    But then, as quoted above, I stated "this", ie the Myra, was
    installed in another room. There is no bath in the other room.


    I understand why it would be nice to have matching units, in the end I
    will have 2 standalone showers (bathroom and separate shower room) and
    they will have common equipment.


    SMWBO doesn't want two knobs to turn for the shower and the sales guy
    we saw today has done a good pitch on the Myra whilst admitting its
    cost.


    Missus might need a bit of (re-) education then (good luck with that ;-)
    the temperature one stays where it is and all you do is turn it on with
    other. Never like the Mira rotary setup, felt it was fiddly.

    As for the original question, for the bath/combined shower, we are
    going for the thermostatic unit though probably not the ikea (bundled
    pricing etc etc).


    Gotcha & thx for replying.

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to fred on Wed Jul 23 12:30:38 2025
    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 21:40:25 GMT, fred <[email protected]> wrote:

    [email protected]d (AnthonyL) wrote in >news:[email protected]:


    Feels like a silly question but what are the controls? I am only
    familiar with an old Mira 415 (similar to
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126102170875) that has a great big knob
    that turns anti-clockwise to go from cold to hot. This is installed
    in another room.

    Is it just a matter of turning each end (hot and cold) and it then
    that temperature is maintained.

    Bathroom installer wants to ditch this for
    https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/mira-excel-ev-mixer-shower-11518300-426-1
    3633, somewhat pricey.


    You asked about combined bath tap/shower mixers which would be >simpler/cheaper (only one unit to buy and simpler installation) but if

    I indeed did

    you wish to have them separate (and pay the extra labout cost of the in-
    wall piping) then there is no need to pay the price of that Mira item.


    But then, as quoted above, I stated "this", ie the Myra, was
    installed in another room. There is no bath in the other room.


    SMWBO doesn't want two knobs to turn for the shower and the sales guy
    we saw today has done a good pitch on the Myra whilst admitting its
    cost.

    As for the original question, for the bath/combined shower, we are
    going for the thermostatic unit though probably not the ikea (bundled
    pricing etc etc).


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