Op 03/07/2025 om 07:55 schreef Nick Odell:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

I don't know. Let me phone Bob Vylan and we'll take it from there.

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On 03/07/2025 in message <[email protected]> Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

The engines will have to be stripped down completely, I wonder how much replacements cost?

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On 03/07/2025 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

More likely the whole aircraft would have to be inspected, the engines
removed and stripped down and many other tests performed, not on account
of what you know they did, but on account of what you don't know they
didn't do.

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On 7/3/25 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

I thought jet engines ran hot. Won't the paint burn off when they are
started?

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On 03/07/2025 10:47, Pancho wrote:

On 7/3/25 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

I thought jet engines ran hot. Won't the paint burn off when they are started?

Next time you take a holiday flight we will let you check out that theory :)


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On 03/07/2025 10:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 03/07/2025 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

More likely the whole aircraft would have to be inspected, the engines removed and stripped down and many other tests performed, not on account
of what you know they did, but on account of what you don't know they
didn't do.

I seem to remember on those air crash programs where a crash was partly attributed to a small sensor that had been painted over and the cause of another crash partly attributed to the masking tape covering a sensor
being left after the aircraft was re-painted. It can the small things
that catch you out.

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 10:47:23 +0100, Pancho
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/3/25 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

I thought jet engines ran hot. Won't the paint burn off when they are >started?

Not the fan blades at the front, which stay cool and got most of the
paint. https://tinyurl.com/ycck72kc

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On 03/07/2025 10:59, alan_m wrote:

On 03/07/2025 10:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 03/07/2025 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

More likely the whole aircraft would have to be inspected, the engines
removed and stripped down and many other tests performed, not on
account of what you know they did, but on account of what you don't
know they didn't do.

I seem to remember on those air crash programs where a crash was partly attributed to a small sensor that had been painted over and the cause of another crash partly attributed to the masking tape covering a sensor
being left after the aircraft was re-painted.  It can the small things
that catch you out.

Indeed, Pitot tubes are external, vital and easily fucked with. Like
the ones that *may* have had an insect nest built inside because it
wasn't covered during a lengthy stay at a tropical airport.


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On 03/07/2025 11:06, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 10:47:23 +0100, Pancho
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/3/25 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

I thought jet engines ran hot. Won't the paint burn off when they are
started?

Not the fan blades at the front, which stay cool and got most of the
paint. https://tinyurl.com/ycck72kc

At any event, the fans will be well out of balance

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On 03/07/2025 in message <1045nrl$4itn$[email protected]> The Natural
Philosopher wrote:

Indeed, Pitot tubes are external, vital and easily fucked with. Like the >ones that may have had an insect nest built inside because it wasn't
covered during a lengthy stay at a tropical airport.

My Suzuki Vitara has just been recalled because spiders might nest in a
vent pipe. Apparently if not fixed it can cause a vacuum which might crack
the fuel tank.

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Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Most people have heard of Karl Marx the philosopher but few know of his
sister Onya the Olympic runner.
Her name is still mentioned at the start of every race.

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On 03/07/2025 11:55, Andy Burns wrote:

Pancho wrote:

I thought jet engines ran hot.

They do, with gasses above the melting temperature of the fan blades

Won't the paint burn off when they are started?

Do you want to risk running the engine with paint possibly blocking the cooling vents within the blades?  Maybe they only get "a little bit too
hot" and start a crack forming that catastrophically fails at a later date?

It may have been an acid etch primer type of paint.

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On 03/07/2025 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Possibly not - depends on the level of damage to the engines... and more importantly the cost of stripping and rebuilding them to find out.



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Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

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On 03/07/2025 07:55, Nick Odell wrote:

Would seven million quid be enough?

Is that price the cost of the clean-up? Or is it the value of two
aircraft kept out of service until someone can find the time to nip
down to B&Q for a two pound can of cleaner?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-brize-norton-palestine-action/

Nick

The jet engine is full of paint!

Jet engines for that aircraft are 20 million plus



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Pancho wrote:

I thought jet engines ran hot.

They do, with gasses above the melting temperature of the fan blades

Won't the paint burn off when they are started?

Do you want to risk running the engine with paint possibly blocking the
cooling vents within the blades? Maybe they only get "a little bit too
hot" and start a crack forming that catastrophically fails at a later date?

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