I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled -
and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said that,
should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a meter
will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
Peter Able wrote:
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled
- and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said
that, should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a
meter will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
I don't think so, from <https://octopus.energy/blog/disconnecting-your-gas-supply>
"Right now, because we get a fairly small number of these requests,
we're shouldering these charges and removing the meters free of charge
for customers. But as it becomes more common, we might need to start charging for the removal of gas meters, not just to cover the MAP's
costs but also to cover the cost for the engineer's time"
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we
first need to provide you with some further information so that you can
make the most informed decision.
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled -
and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said that,
should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a meter
will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled -
and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said that,
should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a meter
will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
On 29/06/2025 18:31, Peter Able wrote:
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled
- and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said
that, should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a
meter will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
I had this done 40 years ago (so a quite different era) and they simply locked off the Gas Isolation handle on the meter with a seal.
More recently (2019) I got South East Water to suspend my water account. Nothing physical happened, I just promised to let them know when I was
going to start using water again. They simply suspended the Standing
Charges
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we
first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we
first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is
that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three
rooms I live in.
Might seem a bit OTT just to save �11 a month - but it is just an
experiment which seems to be, currently, free of charge. (Well, free
for now: Your Octopus Blog post noted)
--
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we
first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is
that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three
rooms I live in.
Might seem a bit OTT just to save £11 a month - but it is just an
experiment which seems to be, currently, free of charge. (Well, free
for now: Your Octopus Blog post noted)
In article <103tnuh$243gl$[email protected]>,
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we
first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three rooms I live in.
Watch out. My brother tried that and found mildew on everything in all the unused rooms.
charles <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <103tnuh$243gl$[email protected]>,
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we >>>>> first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you >>>> replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the
standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is
that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three
rooms I live in.
Watch out. My brother tried that and found mildew on everything in all the >> unused rooms.
Indeed, it's a recipe for trouble. Either you need heating or ventilation, if
you have neither then with moist things in there (like breathing humans)
then you get damp and then mould.
Sealing doors to unused rooms and opening windows to turn them into ventilated outdoor spaces is an option, but that makes the uninsulated internal walls be at outdoor temperature - so inside your living area they get condensation and so mould.
You'd also need to be obsessive about indoor moisture - cooking, showers, laundry. Good extractor fans are a must.
But if you can keep everything above the dew point you may be ok. Would be an interesting experiment to have a heater controlled by humidity sensors (indoor and out). When it's a snowy day the air is dry and you don't need much heat, when it's a rainy day it's moist and you do.
Theo
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we
first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you
replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the
standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is
that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three
rooms I live in.
Might seem a bit OTT just to save £11 a month - but it is just an
experiment which seems to be, currently, free of charge. (Well, free
for now: Your Octopus Blog post noted)
There are 'zero standing charge' tariffs coming 'ready for winter 2025/26': https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/press-release/ofgem-drives-forward-plans-introduce-zero-standing-charge-tariffs
It might be an idea to hang on and wait for one of those, it looks like Utilita is the first one: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/electricity-standing-charge/
Turn off the gas at the meter and you'll use no gas that day, and so incur
no standing charge. If it's baltic on one day, you can use the gas but you'll pay a higher rate for the first few units - effectively a daily standing charge but only when you use gas.
Requires a smart meter, but if you don't want one of those presumably other tariffs will come along towards the autumn.
You can then 'virtually' disconnect your gas but still have it there if you need it. If it turns out you don't actually use it over the winter then you can go ahead and get it disconnected.
If you turn off the gas at the meter, do you need to purge gas lines when turning it back on? You'll have to relight any pilot lights. Depending on the age of the boiler it may suffice not to turn off at the meter and just
to not turn the heating on which means the gas valve at the boiler never opens.
Theo
On 30/06/2025 13:10, Theo wrote:
charles <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <103tnuh$243gl$[email protected]>,
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we >>>>>> first need to provide you with some further information so that you >>>>>> can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you >>>>> replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the >>>>> standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is >>>> that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three >>>> rooms I live in.
Watch out. My brother tried that and found mildew on everything in all the >>> unused rooms.
Indeed, it's a recipe for trouble. Either you need heating or ventilation, if
you have neither then with moist things in there (like breathing humans)
then you get damp and then mould.
Sealing doors to unused rooms and opening windows to turn them into
ventilated outdoor spaces is an option, but that makes the uninsulated
internal walls be at outdoor temperature - so inside your living area they >> get condensation and so mould.
You'd also need to be obsessive about indoor moisture - cooking, showers,
laundry. Good extractor fans are a must.
But if you can keep everything above the dew point you may be ok. Would be >> an interesting experiment to have a heater controlled by humidity sensors
(indoor and out). When it's a snowy day the air is dry and you don't need >> much heat, when it's a rainy day it's moist and you do.
Theo
I'm aware of all these points - and have been testing for the last two
years. No sign of mildew or of aspergillus in the "passive" rooms. The
only closed door within the house is the kitchen door - when cooking. I
do very little "steamy" cooking and the little laundry is double-spun
then hung either outside or in the conservatory.
My lifestyle is hardcore ascetic. Bugger all water, gas and electric.
Two to three wheely-bins-worth of refuse per annum.
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled -
and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said that,
should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a meter
will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:10, Theo wrote:
charles <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <103tnuh$243gl$[email protected]>,
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we >>>>>>> first need to provide you with some further information so that you >>>>>>> can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you >>>>>> replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the >>>>>> standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is >>>>> that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three >>>>> rooms I live in.
Watch out. My brother tried that and found mildew on everything in all the >>>> unused rooms.
Indeed, it's a recipe for trouble. Either you need heating or ventilation, if
you have neither then with moist things in there (like breathing humans) >>> then you get damp and then mould.
Sealing doors to unused rooms and opening windows to turn them into
ventilated outdoor spaces is an option, but that makes the uninsulated
internal walls be at outdoor temperature - so inside your living area they >>> get condensation and so mould.
You'd also need to be obsessive about indoor moisture - cooking, showers, >>> laundry. Good extractor fans are a must.
But if you can keep everything above the dew point you may be ok. Would be >>> an interesting experiment to have a heater controlled by humidity sensors >>> (indoor and out). When it's a snowy day the air is dry and you don't need >>> much heat, when it's a rainy day it's moist and you do.
Theo
I'm aware of all these points - and have been testing for the last two
years. No sign of mildew or of aspergillus in the "passive" rooms. The
only closed door within the house is the kitchen door - when cooking. I
do very little "steamy" cooking and the little laundry is double-spun
then hung either outside or in the conservatory.
My lifestyle is hardcore ascetic. Bugger all water, gas and electric.
Two to three wheely-bins-worth of refuse per annum.
Now that’s impressive! So bloody hard to avoid excess plastic packaging etc these days. Mind you, even if I eschewed all superfluous packaging, my bottle bin would still need emptying monthly. ;-)
Tim
Now that’s impressive! So bloody hard to avoid excess plastic packaging etc these days. Mind you, even if I eschewed all superfluous packaging, my bottle bin would still need emptying monthly. ;-)
On 30/06/2025 13:01, Theo wrote:
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we >>>>> first need to provide you with some further information so that you
can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you >>>> replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the
standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is >>> that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three
rooms I live in.
Might seem a bit OTT just to save £11 a month - but it is just an
experiment which seems to be, currently, free of charge. (Well, free
for now: Your Octopus Blog post noted)
There are 'zero standing charge' tariffs coming 'ready for winter
2025/26':
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/press-release/ofgem-drives-forward-plans-introduce-zero-standing-charge-tariffs
It might be an idea to hang on and wait for one of those, it looks like
Utilita is the first one:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/electricity-standing-charge/
Turn off the gas at the meter and you'll use no gas that day, and so
incur
no standing charge. If it's baltic on one day, you can use the gas but
you'll pay a higher rate for the first few units - effectively a daily
standing charge but only when you use gas.
Requires a smart meter, but if you don't want one of those presumably
other
tariffs will come along towards the autumn.
You can then 'virtually' disconnect your gas but still have it there
if you
need it. If it turns out you don't actually use it over the winter
then you
can go ahead and get it disconnected.
If you turn off the gas at the meter, do you need to purge gas lines when
turning it back on? You'll have to relight any pilot lights.
Depending on
the age of the boiler it may suffice not to turn off at the meter and
just
to not turn the heating on which means the gas valve at the boiler never
opens.
Theo
I'm aware of the zero-standing-charge issues - and don't expect them to
make any sense. The Utilita one has a break-even, compared to Octopus,
of about 0.3 cubic metre per day. So it is really meant for truly zero users, IMHO.
This house had no gas when we moved in, so is primarily electric. I converted the oil CH to gas when gas became available in the street. The
gas meter is on the outer house wall and the boiler is just the other
side of the wall, so a purge will not be an issue - and it has an
electronic pilot igniter.
My main concern is that the assurances I have received from Octopus as
to the costs to me of disconnecting then, maybe, reconnecting will be
reneged upon.
On 30/06/2025 16:05, Peter Able wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:01, Theo wrote:
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we >>>>>> first need to provide you with some further information so that you >>>>>> can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you >>>>> replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the >>>>> standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is >>>> that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three >>>> rooms I live in.
Might seem a bit OTT just to save £11 a month - but it is just an
experiment which seems to be, currently, free of charge. (Well, free >>>> for now: Your Octopus Blog post noted)
There are 'zero standing charge' tariffs coming 'ready for winter
2025/26':
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/press-release/ofgem-drives-forward-plans-introduce-zero-standing-charge-tariffs
It might be an idea to hang on and wait for one of those, it looks like
Utilita is the first one:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/electricity-standing-charge/ >>>
Turn off the gas at the meter and you'll use no gas that day, and so
incur
no standing charge. If it's baltic on one day, you can use the gas but >>> you'll pay a higher rate for the first few units - effectively a daily
standing charge but only when you use gas.
Requires a smart meter, but if you don't want one of those presumably
other
tariffs will come along towards the autumn.
You can then 'virtually' disconnect your gas but still have it there
if you
need it. If it turns out you don't actually use it over the winter
then you
can go ahead and get it disconnected.
If you turn off the gas at the meter, do you need to purge gas lines when >>> turning it back on? You'll have to relight any pilot lights.
Depending on
the age of the boiler it may suffice not to turn off at the meter and
just
to not turn the heating on which means the gas valve at the boiler never >>> opens.
Theo
I'm aware of the zero-standing-charge issues - and don't expect them to
make any sense. The Utilita one has a break-even, compared to Octopus,
of about 0.3 cubic metre per day. So it is really meant for truly zero
users, IMHO.
This house had no gas when we moved in, so is primarily electric. I
converted the oil CH to gas when gas became available in the street. The
gas meter is on the outer house wall and the boiler is just the other
side of the wall, so a purge will not be an issue - and it has an
electronic pilot igniter.
My main concern is that the assurances I have received from Octopus as
to the costs to me of disconnecting then, maybe, reconnecting will be
reneged upon.
Thank you for all of the interest shown. I've decided to keep connected
- at least for now! I believe that my latest Wizard Prang needs another winter of tests.
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part of 4,000 kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 16:05, Peter Able wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:01, Theo wrote:
Peter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 07:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Able wrote:
As you have indicated that you would like your gas meter removed, we >>>>>>> first need to provide you with some further information so that you >>>>>>> can make the most informed decision.
If you hade/have gas, presumably you used it for heating, what have you >>>>>> replaced it with? Hopefully you're not having to do it to avoid the >>>>>> standing charges and then see how it works out without gas?
Yes, only for heating - and that for less than 5 months a year.
Before we had a gas feed and after this disconnection - Oil-filled
electric heaters and an Electrical Immersion Heater. The difference is >>>>> that with only me in the house, I plan to actively heat only the three >>>>> rooms I live in.
Might seem a bit OTT just to save £11 a month - but it is just an
experiment which seems to be, currently, free of charge. (Well, free >>>>> for now: Your Octopus Blog post noted)
There are 'zero standing charge' tariffs coming 'ready for winter
2025/26':
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/press-release/ofgem-drives-forward-plans-introduce-zero-standing-charge-tariffs
It might be an idea to hang on and wait for one of those, it looks like >>>> Utilita is the first one:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/electricity-standing-charge/ >>>>
Turn off the gas at the meter and you'll use no gas that day, and so
incur
no standing charge. If it's baltic on one day, you can use the gas but >>>> you'll pay a higher rate for the first few units - effectively a daily >>>> standing charge but only when you use gas.
Requires a smart meter, but if you don't want one of those presumably
other
tariffs will come along towards the autumn.
You can then 'virtually' disconnect your gas but still have it there
if you
need it. If it turns out you don't actually use it over the winter
then you
can go ahead and get it disconnected.
If you turn off the gas at the meter, do you need to purge gas lines when >>>> turning it back on? You'll have to relight any pilot lights.
Depending on
the age of the boiler it may suffice not to turn off at the meter and
just
to not turn the heating on which means the gas valve at the boiler never >>>> opens.
Theo
I'm aware of the zero-standing-charge issues - and don't expect them to
make any sense. The Utilita one has a break-even, compared to Octopus, >>> of about 0.3 cubic metre per day. So it is really meant for truly zero >>> users, IMHO.
This house had no gas when we moved in, so is primarily electric. I
converted the oil CH to gas when gas became available in the street. The >>> gas meter is on the outer house wall and the boiler is just the other
side of the wall, so a purge will not be an issue - and it has an
electronic pilot igniter.
My main concern is that the assurances I have received from Octopus as
to the costs to me of disconnecting then, maybe, reconnecting will be
reneged upon.
Thank you for all of the interest shown. I've decided to keep connected
- at least for now! I believe that my latest Wizard Prang needs another
winter of tests.
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach a graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part of 4,000 kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
Tim
On 02/07/2025 21:13, Tim+ wrote:
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas
boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part of
4,000
kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
I think it means 4,000 kWhr for electricity and 20,000 kWh for gas for
the year up to January 2025.
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
In which case, no, but still 'high'.
NB The upper graph is titled "Gas + Electricity" so for January 2025 electricity is about 4,000kWh and gas is about 15,000kWh per annum.
Electricity at 456 Wh? Fridge and (separate) freezer account for about
70Wh, food preparation about 180Wh, computer for about 70Wh. Most of the rest is for occasional heating - of me, not the weed. ;-}}
Yesterday's gas per annum was 11,719kWh; electricity was 4,038kWh.
House floor space: about 2,800 sq. ft.
On 03/07/2025 09:03, Peter Able wrote:
NB The upper graph is titled "Gas + Electricity" so for January 2025
electricity is about 4,000kWh and gas is about 15,000kWh per annum.
Both well above OFGEM 'medium'. https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/average-gas-and-electricity-use-explained
Electricity at 456 Wh? Fridge and (separate) freezer account for about
70Wh, food preparation about 180Wh, computer for about 70Wh. Most of
the rest is for occasional heating - of me, not the weed. ;-}}
Yesterday's gas per annum was 11,719kWh; electricity was 4,038kWh.
House floor space: about 2,800 sq. ft.
I'd call that a large house.
On 02/07/2025 21:40, Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 02/07/2025 21:13, Tim+ wrote:NB The upper graph is titled "Gas + Electricity" so for January 2025 electricity is about 4,000kWh and gas is about 15,000kWh per annum.
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a graph >>>> of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas
boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part of
4,000
kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
I think it means 4,000 kWhr for electricity and 20,000 kWh for gas
for the year up to January 2025.
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
In which case, no, but still 'high'.
Electricity at 456 Wh? Fridge and (separate) freezer account for about
70Wh, food preparation about 180Wh, computer for about 70Wh. Most of
the rest is for occasional heating - of me, not the weed. ;-}}
Yesterday's gas per annum was 11,719kWh; electricity was 4,038kWh.
On 2025-07-03 09:03, Peter Able wrote:
On 02/07/2025 21:40, Nick Finnigan wrote:...
On 02/07/2025 21:13, Tim+ wrote:NB The upper graph is titled "Gas + Electricity" so for January 2025
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a
graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas
boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part of
4,000
kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
I think it means 4,000 kWhr for electricity and 20,000 kWh for gas
for the year up to January 2025.
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
In which case, no, but still 'high'.
electricity is about 4,000kWh and gas is about 15,000kWh per annum.
Electricity at 456 Wh? Fridge and (separate) freezer account for about
70Wh, food preparation about 180Wh, computer for about 70Wh. Most of
the rest is for occasional heating - of me, not the weed. ;-}}
Yesterday's gas per annum was 11,719kWh; electricity was 4,038kWh.
Is that 365 times yesterday's consumption, so what a year would be at
that rate, or the sum of the previous 365 days consumption?
(The latter obviously changes only very slowly day-by-day.)
On 2025-07-03 09:03, Peter Able wrote:
On 02/07/2025 21:40, Nick Finnigan wrote:...
On 02/07/2025 21:13, Tim+ wrote:NB The upper graph is titled "Gas + Electricity" so for January 2025
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a
graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas
boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part of
4,000
kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
I think it means 4,000 kWhr for electricity and 20,000 kWh for gas
for the year up to January 2025.
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
In which case, no, but still 'high'.
electricity is about 4,000kWh and gas is about 15,000kWh per annum.
Electricity at 456 Wh? Fridge and (separate) freezer account for about
70Wh, food preparation about 180Wh, computer for about 70Wh. Most of
the rest is for occasional heating - of me, not the weed. ;-}}
Yesterday's gas per annum was 11,719kWh; electricity was 4,038kWh.
Is that 365 times yesterday's consumption, so what a year would be at
that rate, or the sum of the previous 365 days consumption?
(The latter obviously changes only very slowly day-by-day.)
nib
On 03/07/2025 11:45, nib wrote:
On 2025-07-03 09:03, Peter Able wrote:
On 02/07/2025 21:40, Nick Finnigan wrote:...
On 02/07/2025 21:13, Tim+ wrote:NB The upper graph is titled "Gas + Electricity" so for January 2025
KPeter Able <[email protected]> wrote:
Just for now - and this is a long-term experiment - I attach to a
graph
of kilowatt-hours per annum from when I installed the current gas
boiler.
https://ibb.co/zWCGqkhJ
Struggling to follow your graph. Did you really use the best part
of 4,000
kWhr in January 2025 for electric and 20,000 kWhr for gas?
I think it means 4,000 kWhr for electricity and 20,000 kWh for gas >>>> for the year up to January 2025.
Are you growing cannabis indoors?
In which case, no, but still 'high'.
electricity is about 4,000kWh and gas is about 15,000kWh per annum.
Electricity at 456 Wh? Fridge and (separate) freezer account for
about 70Wh, food preparation about 180Wh, computer for about 70Wh.
Most of the rest is for occasional heating - of me, not the weed. ;-}}
Yesterday's gas per annum was 11,719kWh; electricity was 4,038kWh.
Is that 365 times yesterday's consumption, so what a year would be at
that rate, or the sum of the previous 365 days consumption?
(The latter obviously changes only very slowly day-by-day.)
I'm assuming that the graph shows either a Jan to Jan consumption (total
for 365 days) or Jul to Jul consumption (again a total of 365 days). Any intermediate points would also be the consumption for the previous 365
days from that date. If not that is a lot of consumption in the Summer months for central heating in the previous years :)
On 29/06/2025 18:31, Peter Able wrote:
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled
- and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said
that, should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date, a
meter will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
I had a similar situation some thirty-odd years ago. No cost to remove,
no cost if I wanted it replaced. However, it was pointed out to me that
if, in the intervening period, they replaced the gas main, then my
property would not be connected and any subsequent reconnection would
involve laying a new pipe with associated charges.
Just something to bear in mind.
On 30/06/2025 18:03, Andrew wrote:
On 29/06/2025 18:31, Peter Able wrote:
I'm planning to disconnect from the gas network for a while. My
supplier, Octopus have told me that the gas meter must be uninstalled
- and that this will not cost me anything. Octopus has also said
that, should I wish to go back on supply with them at a future date,
a meter will be installed at no cost to me.
Am I missing something in the way of costs to me?
I had a similar situation some thirty-odd years ago. No cost to
remove, no cost if I wanted it replaced. However, it was pointed out
to me that if, in the intervening period, they replaced the gas main,
then my property would not be connected and any subsequent
reconnection would involve laying a new pipe with associated charges.
Just something to bear in mind.
Even worse, if you have your gas meter removed to save on the
standing charge, then after about a year, Transco will turn up
and if there is any 3/4 inch metal pipework on *their* side
of the meter (as is the case in hundreds of thousands of houses
built in the 60's and 70's) they will dig up the pavement or
road and chop your supply outside your boundary.
Any subsequent reconnection will be deemed to be a new service
that has to meet current regulations (= V expensive).
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