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    From Steve@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 15:17:47 2025
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Steve on Sat Jun 7 15:57:43 2025
    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Are you sure that the black stuff isn't the rubber lining inside the pipe?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p6i1d2F_MOQ

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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 16:45:46 2025
    alan_m wrote :
    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Are you sure that the black stuff isn't the rubber lining inside the pipe?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p6i1d2F_MOQ

    Good thought Alan but no, it's not that. There's no leak of water and
    this is black flaky stuff that can be cleaned off but it's a PITA as
    you have to go round the pipe, not top to bottom.

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Alan Lee on Sat Jun 7 16:39:41 2025
    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:36:48 +0100, Alan Lee wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    It is mould and bacteria. Bleach will kill it, a brush will get it off.

    Not IME. Nothing shifts it.

    We've got some that builds up on the bottom of SWMBO bathchair. Most of
    it can be mechanically removed by a bit of pressure and scrubbing. But
    some remains and washing powder, bleach or Milton won't shift it. Beyond
    that you're going to start to damage whatever the things made of.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Steve on Sat Jun 7 17:25:37 2025
    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Hard to say. After 20 years I don't have any such

    You could try a solution of benzalkonium chloride from a spray bottle

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  • From Alan Lee@21:1/5 to Steve on Sat Jun 7 17:36:48 2025
    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    It is mould and bacteria. Bleach will kill it, a brush will get it off.

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  • From tim+@21:1/5 to Steve on Sat Jun 7 21:18:23 2025
    Steve <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Get rid of any hose that has a spiral wound cover.

    Something like this. https://amzn.eu/d/7VN9Wgm

    No cavities to harbour mould and easy to clean.

    Tim
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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 23:18:53 2025
    On 07/06/2025 17:39, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:36:48 +0100, Alan Lee wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    It is mould and bacteria. Bleach will kill it, a brush will get it off.

    Not IME. Nothing shifts it.

    We've got some that builds up on the bottom of SWMBO bathchair. Most of
    it can be mechanically removed by a bit of pressure and scrubbing. But
    some remains and washing powder, bleach or Milton won't shift it. Beyond
    that you're going to start to damage whatever the things made of.

    Possibly mould ingrained in limescale.

    IMO citric acid works better than acids like vinegar. Highly dyed toilet limescale removers may stain anything that isn't porcelain.

    To keep some surfaces wet until the limescale is removed soak a tissue
    in the liquid and wrap it around the object to be de-scaled.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292842978442?var=591618710970

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 08:57:35 2025
    On 07/06/2025 23:18, alan_m wrote:
    On 07/06/2025 17:39, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:36:48 +0100, Alan Lee wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that >>>> forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    It is mould and bacteria. Bleach will kill it, a brush will get it off.

    Not IME. Nothing shifts it.

    We've got some that builds up on the bottom of SWMBO bathchair. Most of
    it can be mechanically removed by a bit of pressure and scrubbing. But
    some remains and washing powder, bleach or Milton won't shift it. Beyond
    that you're going to start to damage whatever the things made of.

    Possibly mould ingrained in limescale.

    +1

    If the OP lives in a hard water area it's the most probably explanation.
    We are in a hard/very hard water area (299mg calcium carbonate per
    litre) and black mould in limescale is a difficult problem to deal with.
    It's necessary to use a limescale remover before using a mould remover.

    Lidl used to do a gel-based limescale remover which worked well, but... <https://www.reddit.com/r/AskIreland/comments/1h51jzh/limescale_remover_that_works_as_well_as/>
    (by the way, the first post is incorrect. AFAIR the active ingredient
    was sulphamic acid). The nearest thing I could find which works well,
    but is at least 5x more expensive is Kilrock-Gel Limescale Remover: <https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/325413918>

    IMO citric acid works better than acids like vinegar. Highly dyed toilet limescale removers may stain anything that isn't porcelain.

    To keep some surfaces wet until the limescale is removed soak a tissue
    in the liquid and wrap it around the object to be de-scaled.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292842978442?var=591618710970

    I've been using citric acid for years to remove limescale from kettles,
    and it's very effective. However, for vertical surfaces and awkward
    areas it doesn't hang around long enough, even when using a soaked
    tissue. When the Kilrock stuff runs out, I'm going to make some citric
    acid gel from a conc solution of citric acid mixed into a cheapo hair
    gel to make a "non-runny" gel.

    All we really need now is something to remove the black mould staining
    the rubber door seal of the washing machine. Bleach doesn't touch it. :-(

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    Jeff

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 10:14:41 2025
    On 07/06/2025 17:39, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:36:48 +0100, Alan Lee wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    It is mould and bacteria. Bleach will kill it, a brush will get it off.

    Not IME. Nothing shifts it.

    We've got some that builds up on the bottom of SWMBO bathchair. Most of
    it can be mechanically removed by a bit of pressure and scrubbing. But
    some remains and washing powder, bleach or Milton won't shift it. Beyond
    that you're going to start to damage whatever the things made of.

    The only thing that shifts black mould on my patio is Benzalkonium chloride


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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Sun Jun 8 09:24:22 2025
    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 08:57:35 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 23:18, alan_m wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    +1

    If the OP lives in a hard water area it's the most probably explanation.

    We have what must be the softest water in the UK. Our 15 year old kettle
    still looks like new.

    AFAIK our water comes from Wales via the engineering genius of the Elan aqueduct.

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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 16:03:59 2025
    After serious thinking tim+ wrote :
    Steve <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that forms >> in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Get rid of any hose that has a spiral wound cover.

    Something like this. https://amzn.eu/d/7VN9Wgm

    No cavities to harbour mould and easy to clean.

    Tim

    That looks like a good idea, cheers Tim. Ordered.

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  • From Bernard Peek@21:1/5 to Steve on Sun Jun 8 15:23:21 2025
    On 2025-06-07, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
    alan_m wrote :
    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Are you sure that the black stuff isn't the rubber lining inside the pipe? >>
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p6i1d2F_MOQ

    Good thought Alan but no, it's not that. There's no leak of water and
    this is black flaky stuff that can be cleaned off but it's a PITA as
    you have to go round the pipe, not top to bottom.

    It's fungus, quite possibly the Aspergillus family. It's definitely worth getting rid of it. Aspergillus fungi produce airborne spores that can cause serious lung infections (Aspergillosis.)

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    Wigan

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  • From Marland@21:1/5 to Steve on Mon Jun 9 05:12:00 2025
    Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
    alan_m wrote :
    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that
    forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    Are you sure that the black stuff isn't the rubber lining inside the pipe? >>
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p6i1d2F_MOQ

    Good thought Alan but no, it's not that. There's no leak of water and
    this is black flaky stuff that can be cleaned off but it's a PITA as
    you have to go round the pipe, not top to bottom.


    Unscrew the pipe from the shower body and head and stick it in the
    dishwasher if you have one,
    or inside a pillowcase and wash it in the washing machine.

    GH

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jun 9 23:39:53 2025
    On 08/06/2025 10:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 07/06/2025 17:39, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:36:48 +0100, Alan Lee wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 15:17, Steve wrote:
    What's the best way to clean off and then prevent the black stuff that >>>> forms in the flexible pipe going to the bathroom shower head?

    It is mould and bacteria. Bleach will kill it, a brush will get it off.

    Not IME. Nothing shifts it.

    We've got some that builds up on the bottom of SWMBO bathchair. Most of
    it can be mechanically removed by a bit of pressure and scrubbing. But
    some remains and washing powder, bleach or Milton won't shift it. Beyond
    that you're going to start to damage whatever the things made of.

    The only thing that shifts black mould on my patio is Benzalkonium chloride



    And that's the same preservative used in medical eye drops like
    COSOPT and Monopost etc. Makes your face look like one of those
    Chinese dogs with loads of folded skin in their face if you
    become sensitised to it (as has happened to me, so now I have to
    have the Preservative-free variant).

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