• Good Rabbit Ears TV Antenna

    From Khoi Mai@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 18 09:41:47 2025
    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop
    antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 18 18:01:18 2025
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop
    antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's
    diameter!

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Khoi Mai on Sun May 18 17:15:28 2025
    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    --
    Max Demian

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  • From Khoi Mai@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun May 18 14:05:47 2025
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop
    antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's diameter!


    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because hair
    thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Sun May 18 19:22:20 2025
    On 18/05/2025 17:15, Max Demian wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop
    antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    Which country?

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Khoi Mai on Sun May 18 20:21:13 2025
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop
    antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable, >>>> as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's
    diameter!


    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because hair
    thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    --
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  • From Khoi Mai@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sun May 18 16:14:40 2025
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable, >>>>> as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's
    diameter!

    ;
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because
    hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Khoi Mai on Mon May 19 03:56:37 2025
    On 18 May 2025 at 22:14:40 BST, Khoi Mai wrote:

    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable, >>>>>> as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's
    diameter!


    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because
    hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    Same here. So I stuffed an outdoor aerial in an under-roof area and pointed it in roughly the right direction. Line of sight blocked by a cavity brick wall. Pretty much 100% signal strength and quality. Might be worth a try if you can access a suitable area.

    --
    Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

    "My humble friend, we know not how to live this life which is so short yet seek one that never ends."
    -- Anatole France

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Khoi Mai on Mon May 19 04:04:21 2025
    On Sun, 5/18/2025 5:14 PM, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable, >>>>>> as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's
    diameter!

    ;
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    First of all, you have to decide whether you are attempting to
    do the impossible. VHF TV reception has practical limits,
    and constructing a giant antenna is not going to be practical
    for cases where you are too far from the transmitter.

    A moderate sized Yagi may still fit in a premises. Whereas the
    ones with claims of 150 mile sensitivity, even outside
    the house and on the roof, they can be miserable to aim and
    get to working properly. The more gain the antenna has, the
    smaller the "beam width" and the harder they are to aim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi%E2%80%93Uda_antenna

    My antenna is not that type, it has a beam width of 15 degrees
    and that is hard enough to aim. I would not want an antenna
    with more gain than that, because a "breeze" could blow it
    off the axis of the transmission.

    Since you could be using an antenna which is better than
    a rabbit ears, with a balun to match the line, the coax type
    really does not matter.

    I don't know if I've even seen a Balun, with connectorization
    for an alternative coaxial type. It's usually an F-series connector,
    on a cheap Balun from the TV store. A Balun, for example,
    can convert from 300 ohm twinax, to 75 ohm coax, from Balanced
    input, to Unbalanced output.

    Note that the impedance of the antenna, varies with the frequency
    you are testing it at, and it is not unusual for the antenna
    impedance to be 150 ohms, yet you are using a 300 ohm to 75 ohm
    Balun for matching to the TV set input coax. You use whatever
    Balun you have to hand, rather than some sort of "careful match"
    or "exact match". The whole process of hooking up TVs, is
    dirty and approximate all round.

    Yagi antennas can be cut for a fixed frequency, or they
    can be log periodic, and cover all the VHF TV frequencies.
    By selecting to buy a fixed frequency antenna (for
    a single TV station you must receive), the antenna can have
    a couple DB more gain as a result of not wasting the gain
    on channels you do not want. Some sellers of TV antennas,
    make available custom single-channel items for sale.

    Paul

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Khoi Mai on Mon May 19 09:50:41 2025
    On 18/05/2025 22:14, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial
    cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's
    diameter!

    ;
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because
    hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    Can still fit a yagi in a roof.

    Or a smaller one in a room

    --
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    puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon May 19 10:53:04 2025
    On 19/05/2025 09:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
     >
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because
    hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss. >>>
    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    Can still fit a yagi in a roof.

    Or a smaller one in a room

    A Band III yagi would be about 900mm x 800mm, so quite large. Mind you,
    it could fit nicely behind a 60" flatscreen TV if the direction was right!

    --
    Jeff

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Mon May 19 11:19:09 2025
    On 19/05/2025 10:53, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 09:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
       >
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an >>>>> ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because
    hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal
    loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    Can still fit a yagi in a roof.

    Or a smaller one in a room

    A Band III yagi would be about 900mm x 800mm, so quite large. Mind you,
    it could fit nicely behind a 60" flatscreen TV if the direction was right!

    Suspend it from the ceiling and when queried, say it was a gift from Sir Anthony Gormley.

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    foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

    (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

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  • From Khoi Mai@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon May 19 18:00:34 2025
    On 5/19/25 3:04 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 5/18/2025 5:14 PM, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable, >>>>>>> as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's >>>>> diameter!

    t;
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    First of all, you have to decide whether you are attempting to
    do the impossible. VHF TV reception has practical limits,
    and constructing a giant antenna is not going to be practical
    for cases where you are too far from the transmitter.

    A moderate sized Yagi may still fit in a premises. Whereas the
    ones with claims of 150 mile sensitivity, even outside
    the house and on the roof, they can be miserable to aim and
    get to working properly. The more gain the antenna has, the
    smaller the "beam width" and the harder they are to aim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi%E2%80%93Uda_antenna

    My antenna is not that type, it has a beam width of 15 degrees
    and that is hard enough to aim. I would not want an antenna
    with more gain than that, because a "breeze" could blow it
    off the axis of the transmission.

    Since you could be using an antenna which is better than
    a rabbit ears, with a balun to match the line, the coax type
    really does not matter.

    I don't know if I've even seen a Balun, with connectorization
    for an alternative coaxial type. It's usually an F-series connector,
    on a cheap Balun from the TV store. A Balun, for example,
    can convert from 300 ohm twinax, to 75 ohm coax, from Balanced
    input, to Unbalanced output.

    Note that the impedance of the antenna, varies with the frequency
    you are testing it at, and it is not unusual for the antenna
    impedance to be 150 ohms, yet you are using a 300 ohm to 75 ohm
    Balun for matching to the TV set input coax. You use whatever
    Balun you have to hand, rather than some sort of "careful match"
    or "exact match". The whole process of hooking up TVs, is
    dirty and approximate all round.

    Yagi antennas can be cut for a fixed frequency, or they
    can be log periodic, and cover all the VHF TV frequencies.
    By selecting to buy a fixed frequency antenna (for
    a single TV station you must receive), the antenna can have
    a couple DB more gain as a result of not wasting the gain
    on channels you do not want. Some sellers of TV antennas,
    make available custom single-channel items for sale.

    Paul

    I have been able to pick up the station unreliably with my current
    indoor setup, sometimes well in very good conditions.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Khoi Mai on Mon May 19 23:38:46 2025
    On Mon, 5/19/2025 7:00 PM, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/19/25 3:04 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 5/18/2025 5:14 PM, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial cable, >>>>>>>> as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's >>>>>> diameter!

      >
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    First of all, you have to decide whether you are attempting to
    do the impossible. VHF TV reception has practical limits,
    and constructing a giant antenna is not going to be practical
    for cases where you are too far from the transmitter.

    A moderate sized Yagi may still fit in a premises. Whereas the
    ones with claims of 150 mile sensitivity, even outside
    the house and on the roof, they can be miserable to aim and
    get to working properly. The more gain the antenna has, the
    smaller the "beam width" and the harder they are to aim.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi%E2%80%93Uda_antenna

    My antenna is not that type, it has a beam width of 15 degrees
    and that is hard enough to aim. I would not want an antenna
    with more gain than that, because a "breeze" could blow it
    off the axis of the transmission.

    Since you could be using an antenna which is better than
    a rabbit ears, with a balun to match the line, the coax type
    really does not matter.

    I don't know if I've even seen a Balun, with connectorization
    for an alternative coaxial type. It's usually an F-series connector,
    on a cheap Balun from the TV store. A Balun, for example,
    can convert from 300 ohm twinax, to 75 ohm coax, from Balanced
    input, to Unbalanced output.

    Note that the impedance of the antenna, varies with the frequency
    you are testing it at, and it is not unusual for the antenna
    impedance to be 150 ohms, yet you are using a 300 ohm to 75 ohm
    Balun for matching to the TV set input coax. You use whatever
    Balun you have to hand, rather than some sort of "careful match"
    or "exact match". The whole process of hooking up TVs, is
    dirty and approximate all round.

    Yagi antennas can be cut for a fixed frequency, or they
    can be log periodic, and cover all the VHF TV frequencies.
    By selecting to buy a fixed frequency antenna (for
    a single TV station you must receive), the antenna can have
    a couple DB more gain as a result of not wasting the gain
    on channels you do not want. Some sellers of TV antennas,
    make available custom single-channel items for sale.

        Paul

    I have been able to pick up the station unreliably with my current indoor setup, sometimes well in very good conditions.

    Here is an example of a Yagi. The reviews at the bottom of the page,
    some people are using this indoors. They do not state the gain, only
    the distance, and the distance sounds a bit unbelievable.

    The antenna can be optimized for VHF-Lo, by adding some element extensions
    in two places, on each side. One reason for looking for Youtube video,
    is to discover any "tricks" to the antennas, such as "what is the difference between the 7000 and the 7000c".

    https://winegard.com/classic-series-yagi-ya7000c/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBrxCldTKaU

    A lot of antennas offered for urban dwellers are patch antenna,
    because a lot of modern TV has moved to UHF and little signal remains in
    VHF-Hi or VHF-Lo. But that antenna is for both VHF-Hi and VHF-Lo. The reason it picks
    up UHF, is even a boat anchor picks up UHF. The antenna I built, the gain was supposed to roll off above Channel 56, and it easily picked up a
    Channel 65 fringe station, no problem at all. UHF isn't nearly as
    hard to make work, as some of the VHF channels.

    *******

    It sounds like your target channel is in VHF-High, so you won't have
    this sort of experience (see comments at bottom).

    https://blog.solidsignal.com/tutorials/need-antenna-pulls-vhf-low/

    Paul

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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue May 20 09:01:14 2025
    On 20/05/2025 04:38, Paul wrote:

    Here is an example of a Yagi. The reviews at the bottom of the page,
    some people are using this indoors. They do not state the gain, only
    the distance, and the distance sounds a bit unbelievable.

    I have a similar Yagi used indoors, about 35 miles from Winter Hill, and
    it gives a good TV signal through several solid house walls at ground level.

    A lot of antennas offered for urban dwellers are patch antenna,
    because a lot of modern TV has moved to UHF and little signal remains in VHF-Hi or VHF-Lo. But that antenna is for both VHF-Hi and VHF-Lo. The reason it picks
    up UHF, is even a boat anchor picks up UHF.
    Even a short coax cable gives a usable TV signal for thin walls here.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu May 22 18:48:33 2025
    On 19/05/2025 09:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 22:14, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and loop >>>>>>> antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial
    cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's >>>>> diameter!

    ;
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in an
    ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin, because
    hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and signal loss. >>>
    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    Can still fit a yagi in a roof.

    Or a smaller one in a room


    We don't know where he lives. It sounds like he could be in a block
    of flats somewhere.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Nick Finnigan on Thu May 22 18:47:03 2025
    On 20/05/2025 09:01, Nick Finnigan wrote:
    On 20/05/2025 04:38, Paul wrote:

    Here is an example of a Yagi. The reviews at the bottom of the page,
    some people are using this indoors. They do not state the gain, only
    the distance, and the distance sounds a bit unbelievable.

     I have a similar Yagi used indoors, about 35 miles from Winter Hill,
    and it gives a good TV signal through several solid house walls at
    ground level.

    A lot of antennas offered for urban dwellers are patch antenna,
    because a lot of modern TV has moved to UHF and little signal remains in
    VHF-Hi or VHF-Lo. But that antenna is for both VHF-Hi and VHF-Lo. The
    reason it picks
    up UHF, is even a boat anchor picks up UHF.
     Even a short coax cable gives a usable TV signal for thin walls here.

    :-) I am 10 miles from Midhurst and I can get the main HD channels
    (sort of) using just the builders 1976 coax embedded in the plaster
    and the short loop left lying unconnected in the loft !

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu May 22 20:04:23 2025
    On 22/05/2025 18:48, Andrew wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 09:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 22:14, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 2:21 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:05, Khoi Mai wrote:
    On 5/18/25 12:01 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 17:15:28 +0100, Max Demian
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 15:41, Khoi Mai wrote:

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of rabbit ears and >>>>>>>> loop
    antennas? I preferably want one with a relatively thick coaxial >>>>>>>> cable,
    as opposed to a thin one.

    Why rabbit ears? Which band?

    And why thick coax? Most people don't choose their coax based on it's >>>>>> diameter!

    ;
    I'm trying to pick up some awkward VHF real channel 8 stations in
    an ATSC 1 broadcast area. I want a coax that isn't hair thin,
    because hair thin coaxial cables suffer from more interference and
    signal loss.

    Then you don't want rabbit ears do you?
    You want a log periodic or Yagi style array

    Unfortunately for me, an outdoor one is not an option at the moment.

    Can still fit a yagi in a roof.

    Or a smaller one in a room


    We don't know where he lives. It sounds like he could be in a block
    of flats somewhere.
    He certainly doesnt live in the UK
    No VHF telly left.

    --
    "The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
    man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
    thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
    before him."

    - Leo Tolstoy

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  • From Bob Eager@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu May 22 20:42:16 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 18:47:03 +0100, Andrew wrote:

    On 20/05/2025 09:01, Nick Finnigan wrote:
    On 20/05/2025 04:38, Paul wrote:

    Here is an example of a Yagi. The reviews at the bottom of the page,
    some people are using this indoors. They do not state the gain, only
    the distance, and the distance sounds a bit unbelievable.

     I have a similar Yagi used indoors, about 35 miles from Winter Hill,
    and it gives a good TV signal through several solid house walls at
    ground level.

    A lot of antennas offered for urban dwellers are patch antenna,
    because a lot of modern TV has moved to UHF and little signal remains
    in VHF-Hi or VHF-Lo. But that antenna is for both VHF-Hi and VHF-Lo.
    The reason it picks up UHF, is even a boat anchor picks up UHF.
     Even a short coax cable gives a usable TV signal for thin walls
     here.

    :-) I am 10 miles from Midhurst and I can get the main HD channels (sort
    of) using just the builders 1976 coax embedded in the plaster and the
    short loop left lying unconnected in the loft !

    I grew up half a mile from the local Brighton transmitter, literally on
    the next hill. It was only for BBC; ITV came from the Isle of Wight.

    The signal was so strong that we had to remove the TV cable from the
    antenna socket on the window frame, and drop it on the floor (despite the antenna being oriented incorrectly).

    In the end I made a BBC-specific attenuator and inserted it between the
    cable and the socket. I think I was about 13 at the time!



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