or wind power?
On 08/04/2025 14:50, David wrote:
or wind power?
There's not a breath of wind up here about 15m West of Edinburgh. I was amazed to see so many of the hundreds of wind turbines stationary as I
walked the dog in the hills this lunchtime.
I'm surprised nobody commented about Ed 'fuckwitt' Milliband and his
huge new offshore wind power station in The English Channel off Dover
and how it will power "one million homes" (see Saturday's Times
5-4-2025). Not today it wont.
On 08/04/2025 14:50, David wrote:
or wind power?
There's not a breath of wind up here about 15m West of Edinburgh. I was >amazed to see so many of the hundreds of wind turbines stationary as I
walked the dog in the hills this lunchtime.
I'm surprised nobody commented about Ed 'fuckwitt' Milliband and his
huge new offshore wind power station in The English Channel off Dover
and how it will power "one million homes" (see Saturday's Times
5-4-2025). Not today it wont.
Only the grid frequency is on the stops low, and wind power is almost
zero despite a decent breeze, at least on the East Coast.
Problem with the readings, or wind power?
Dover wind speed around 10 mph gusting to 20 mph.
Should be enough to turn a turbine or two.
So a wind farm off Dover could be a reasonable proposition.
On 08/04/2025 16:04, David wrote:
Somehow I can't see wind turbines being placed in "the busiest shipping
area in the world."
On 08/04/2025 16:04, David wrote:
Dover wind speed around 10 mph gusting to 20 mph.
Should be enough to turn a turbine or two.
So a wind farm off Dover could be a reasonable proposition.
From the wiki on the English Channel:
"The English Channel, also known as the Channel, is an arm of the
Atlantic Ocean that separates Southern England from northern France. It
links to the southern part of the North Sea by the Strait of Dover at
its northeastern end. It is the busiest shipping area in the world."
Somehow I can't see wind turbines being placed in "the busiest shipping
area in the world."
Only the grid frequency is on the stops low, and wind power is almost
zero despite a decent breeze, at least on the East Coast.
Problem with the readings, or wind power?
On 08/04/2025 17:21, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 08/04/2025 16:04, David wrote:
Somehow I can't see wind turbines being placed in "the busiest shipping
area in the world."
The already are. However, I mixed up Dover with Brighton. Well the area
is bland and populated with soft, Southern shandy drinkers so any one
town blends into the next.
https://www.4coffshore.com/news/uk-government-gives-the-go-ahead-to-rampion-2-offshore-wind-farm-project-off-the-sussex-coast.-nid30980.html
So there you go, more wind turbines being placed in the busiest shipping
area in the world.
You're welcome.
On Tue, 08 Apr 2025 17:21:48 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 08/04/2025 16:04, David wrote:
Dover wind speed around 10 mph gusting to 20 mph.
Should be enough to turn a turbine or two.
So a wind farm off Dover could be a reasonable proposition.
From the wiki on the English Channel:
"The English Channel, also known as the Channel, is an arm of the
Atlantic Ocean that separates Southern England from northern France. It
links to the southern part of the North Sea by the Strait of Dover at
its northeastern end. It is the busiest shipping area in the world."
Somehow I can't see wind turbines being placed in "the busiest shipping
area in the world."
Probably won't put them in the deepest part of the shipping lanes.
There might be a convenient mud/sand bank just off the main thoroughfare
with nice shallow water, of course.
Cheers
Rampion is off the coast of West Sussex, almost 100 miles from the
Strait of Dover.
Only the grid frequency is on the stops low, and wind power is almost zero despite a decent breeze, at least on the East Coast.
Problem with the readings, or wind power?
Cheers
Dave R
Only the grid frequency is on the stops low, and wind power is almost
zero despite a decent breeze, at least on the East Coast.
Problem with the readings, or wind power?
Frequency still showing 0, so definitely something amiss in the works.
This site is pretty good at measuring grid frequency, it shows normal,Sorry that's for Europe, I meant this one for UK
<https://www.mainsfrequency.com>
There's not a breath of wind up here about 15m West of Edinburgh. I was >>amazed to see so many of the hundreds of wind turbines stationary as I >>walked the dog in the hills this lunchtime.
I'm surprised nobody commented about Ed 'fuckwitt' Milliband and his
huge new offshore wind power station in The English Channel off Dover
and how it will power "one million homes" (see Saturday's Times
5-4-2025). Not today it wont.
I often wonder about these claims by millibrain and the like, that >such-and-such a scheme will power x-squillion homes, whether that
figure has taken into account the capacity factor, or whether that's
the measure when all the generators, wind and/or solar, are going full
belt.
Roland Perry wrote:
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by some
surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average power
consumption of households.
I used 721 kWh during Jan to Mar, so 1/3 kW sounds right, for a
one-person household.
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by some surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average power consumption of households.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 14:46:03 +0100, Andy Burns <[email protected]>
wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by some
surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average power
consumption of households.
I used 721 kWh during Jan to Mar, so 1/3 kW sounds right, for a
one-person household.
Here, base load is about 550W one person, but a bit of tech on 24/7/52
Suspect when I eventually get round to moving to the mini-PC rather than
this full tower jobby it'll drop a bit.
Avpx
Roland Perry wrote:Its around 700W per household
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by
some surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average
power consumption of households.
I used 721 kWh during Jan to Mar, so 1/3 kW sounds right, for a
one-person household.
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by some surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average power consumption of households.
On 10/04/2025 14:18, Roland Perry wrote:
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by some
surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average power
consumption of households.
https://rampion2.com/benefits/
With a maximum planned capacity of 1200 MW of electricity, Rampion 2 could power the equivalent of over one million homes¹ and reduce carbon emissions by around 1.8 million tonnes² per year. Put another way, Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the electricity demands for the whole of Sussex³ and combined with the operating Rampion Wind Farm, could power the entire electricity demand for Sussex.
References:
¹Based on total electricity consumption (GWh) in East Sussex, West Sussex and Brighton & Hove 2022 (DESNZ, 2024)
²Based on an average annual domestic household electricity consumption of 3,509 kWh (Dept Energy Security & Net Zero, 2024).
³The calculation made using a static figure of 446g/kWh representing the energy mix in the UK (BEIS, July 2020)
Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the
electricity demands for the whole of Sussex
Andy Burns wrote:One Dobbin per family?
I used 721 kWh during Jan to Mar, so 1/3 kW sounds right, for a one-
person household.
Its around 700W per household
On 2025-04-10 15:04, The Nomad wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 14:46:03 +0100, Andy Burns <[email protected]>
wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
There's a rule of thumb where they divide the full-power output by some >>>> surprisingly small kWh, which is apparently the long term average power >>>> consumption of households.
I used 721 kWh during Jan to Mar, so 1/3 kW sounds right, for a
one-person household.
Here, base load is about 550W one person, but a bit of tech on 24/7/52
Suspect when I eventually get round to moving to the mini-PC rather than
this full tower jobby it'll drop a bit.
Avpx
I was just thinking I was extravagant at average 400W for 1 person! Plus about another 160W for the car, depending on use.
https://rampion2.com/benefits/
With a maximum planned capacity of 1200 MW of electricity, Rampion 2
could power the equivalent of over one million homes¹ and reduce carbon emissions by around 1.8 million tonnes² per year. Put another way,
Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the electricity
demands for the whole of Sussex³ and combined with the operating Rampion Wind Farm, could power the entire electricity demand for Sussex.
References:
¹Based on total electricity consumption (GWh) in East Sussex, West
Sussex and Brighton & Hove 2022 (DESNZ, 2024)
²Based on an average annual domestic household electricity consumption
of 3,509 kWh (Dept Energy Security & Net Zero, 2024).
³The calculation made using a static figure of 446g/kWh representing the energy mix in the UK (BEIS, July 2020)
On 10/04/2025 15:37, Nick Finnigan wrote:
https://rampion2.com/benefits/
With a maximum planned capacity of 1200 MW of electricity, Rampion 2
could power the equivalent of over one million homes¹ and reduce carbon
emissions by around 1.8 million tonnes² per year. Put another way,
Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the electricity
demands for the whole of Sussex³ and combined with the operating Rampion
Wind Farm, could power the entire electricity demand for Sussex.
References:
¹Based on total electricity consumption (GWh) in East Sussex, West
Sussex and Brighton & Hove 2022 (DESNZ, 2024)
²Based on an average annual domestic household electricity consumption
of 3,509 kWh (Dept Energy Security & Net Zero, 2024).
³The calculation made using a static figure of 446g/kWh representing the
energy mix in the UK (BEIS, July 2020)
Go look at the data for 22nd January.
SFA from wind or solar. Apparently we nearly ran out of gas too.
On 15 Apr 2025 at 11:22:32 BST, "Vir Campestris" <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 10/04/2025 15:37, Nick Finnigan wrote:
https://rampion2.com/benefits/
With a maximum planned capacity of 1200 MW of electricity, Rampion 2
could power the equivalent of over one million homes¹ and reduce carbon >>> emissions by around 1.8 million tonnes² per year. Put another way,
Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the electricity
demands for the whole of Sussex³ and combined with the operating Rampion >>> Wind Farm, could power the entire electricity demand for Sussex.
References:
¹Based on total electricity consumption (GWh) in East Sussex, West
Sussex and Brighton & Hove 2022 (DESNZ, 2024)
²Based on an average annual domestic household electricity consumption
of 3,509 kWh (Dept Energy Security & Net Zero, 2024).
³The calculation made using a static figure of 446g/kWh representing the >>> energy mix in the UK (BEIS, July 2020)
Go look at the data for 22nd January.
SFA from wind or solar. Apparently we nearly ran out of gas too.
You can't rely on wind/solar for baseload. Doesn't Our Nick get this yet?
Tim Streater <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 at 11:22:32 BST, "Vir Campestris"
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On 10/04/2025 15:37, Nick Finnigan wrote:
https://rampion2.com/benefits/
With a maximum planned capacity of 1200 MW of electricity, Rampion 2
could power the equivalent of over one million homes¹ and reduce carbon >>>> emissions by around 1.8 million tonnes² per year. Put another way,
Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the electricity
demands for the whole of Sussex³ and combined with the operating Rampion >>>> Wind Farm, could power the entire electricity demand for Sussex.
References:
¹Based on total electricity consumption (GWh) in East Sussex, West
Sussex and Brighton & Hove 2022 (DESNZ, 2024)
²Based on an average annual domestic household electricity consumption >>>> of 3,509 kWh (Dept Energy Security & Net Zero, 2024).
³The calculation made using a static figure of 446g/kWh representing the >>>> energy mix in the UK (BEIS, July 2020)
Go look at the data for 22nd January.
SFA from wind or solar. Apparently we nearly ran out of gas too.
You can't rely on wind/solar for baseload. Doesn't Our Nick get this yet?
When Nick quoted “Rampion 2 could generate around three-quarters of all the electricity demands for the whole of Sussex³ and combined with the
operating Rampion Wind Farm, could power the entire electricity demand for Sussex” he forgot to note the absence of the qualifier of ‘reliably’.
Something else is needed to provide Sussex with reliable electricity, and
at the moment it’s gas.
Anyone who thinks of battery storage as an answer would seem unable to do sums, such as those needed to calculate the energy required and also what would be needed to recharge such storage.
The link given is full of claptrap,
“Offshore wind can meet this demand at scale”
Not 24/7 it can’t.
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