• Write protection of SanDisk 3.2

    From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 16:04:00 2025
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Scott on Wed Mar 26 13:05:25 2025
    On Wed, 3/26/2025 12:04 PM, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks


    Does it have a part number, like "SDCZ800-064G" ?

    I would try it in a second machine, or change OS from
    Windows to Linux and see if the behavior is confirmed.

    The root cause, could be something like this:

    https://www.diskpart.com/screenshot/en/others/others/attributes-disk-clear-readonly.png

    but it could also be that one of the two flash chips has failed and
    the critical data in the flash chip no long allows changes or something.
    You would suspect something like that, if recently the device write
    rate had dropped to 1.5MB/sec.

    Paul

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Mar 26 18:07:20 2025
    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 16:18:58 +0000, John R Walliker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 26/03/2025 16:04, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Does your USB port support superspeed (5 or 10 Gbit/s)? If not, it
    may be worth trying one that does. It will probably have a blue
    insert in the socket. The reason is that the superspeed and lower
    speed interfaces are completely separate and one may work when the
    other does not.

    It's a blue port. I don't know if this means USB 2 or USB 3. I tried
    it in the standard port but the same problem occurred.

    It is possible to use superspeed devices with the ordinary USB 1x
    and 2x connections completely disconnected!

    A superspeed controller will first try to detect a superspeed device.
    If that fails it then looks for a lower speed interface.
    On the other hand, a USB 2x controller will never look for a
    superspeed interface.

    I wonder if my PC is not fully compatible with USB 3?

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to This is what I tried. It claimed su on Wed Mar 26 18:14:20 2025
    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 13:05:25 -0400, Paul <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 3/26/2025 12:04 PM, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Does it have a part number, like "SDCZ800-064G" ?

    BL210357727W
    SDCZ48-016G

    I would try it in a second machine, or change OS from
    Windows to Linux and see if the behavior is confirmed.

    Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough to install Linux.

    The root cause, could be something like this:

    https://www.diskpart.com/screenshot/en/others/others/attributes-disk-clear-readonly.png

    This is what I tried. It claimed success but the write protection
    remained.

    but it could also be that one of the two flash chips has failed and
    the critical data in the flash chip no long allows changes or something.
    You would suspect something like that, if recently the device write
    rate had dropped to 1.5MB/sec.

    It is write protected so not possible to check.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Mar 26 20:01:30 2025
    Jeff Gaines <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 26/03/2025 in message <[email protected]>
    Scott wrote:

    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended >command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Have you seen this:

    https://forums.sandisk.com/t/my-sandisk-ultra-usb-3-0-is-write-protected-what-to-do/223571

    If it's a new USB drive you should return it under warranty.

    Yep, a flash drive going read only is the drive protecting itself so you can get the data off it before it dies. Nothing to do with USB 2 v 3, they'll
    make no difference.

    A few of them have a physical write protect switch, but it's rare.

    If it was just Windows being dumb you could still wipe the partitions and reformat it, which suggests it's a deeper problem.

    If it's new-ish, and a USB 3.2 drive sounds like it might be, I'd complain
    to SanDisk.

    Theo

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Scott on Wed Mar 26 19:37:30 2025
    On 26/03/2025 in message <[email protected]>
    Scott wrote:

    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Have you seen this:

    https://forums.sandisk.com/t/my-sandisk-ultra-usb-3-0-is-write-protected-what-to-do/223571

    If it's a new USB drive you should return it under warranty.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Thanks for teaching me the meaning of plethora, it means a lot.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Scott on Thu Mar 27 01:41:48 2025
    On Wed, 3/26/2025 2:14 PM, Scott wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 13:05:25 -0400, Paul <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 3/26/2025 12:04 PM, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Does it have a part number, like "SDCZ800-064G" ?

    BL210357727W
    SDCZ48-016G

    I would try it in a second machine, or change OS from
    Windows to Linux and see if the behavior is confirmed.

    Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough to install Linux.

    The root cause, could be something like this:

    https://www.diskpart.com/screenshot/en/others/others/attributes-disk-clear-readonly.png

    This is what I tried. It claimed success but the write protection
    remained.

    but it could also be that one of the two flash chips has failed and
    the critical data in the flash chip no long allows changes or something.
    You would suspect something like that, if recently the device write
    rate had dropped to 1.5MB/sec.

    It is write protected so not possible to check.


    There is one other OS-level way this could happen,
    but this apparently can affect more than just flash drives.
    You might find secondary hard drives or secondary SSDs
    also exhibiting the symptoms, if this was the reason.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/124456-deny-write-access-fixed-data-drives-not-protected-bitlocker.html

    The Sandisk forum has several long threads on this issue.
    Consisting of mostly complaints. And a few bad ideas :-)

    Paul

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Mar 27 09:30:12 2025
    On 26 Mar 2025 20:01:30 +0000 (GMT), Theo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 26/03/2025 in message <[email protected]>
    Scott wrote:

    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Have you seen this:

    https://forums.sandisk.com/t/my-sandisk-ultra-usb-3-0-is-write-protected-what-to-do/223571

    If it's a new USB drive you should return it under warranty.

    Yep, a flash drive going read only is the drive protecting itself so you can >get the data off it before it dies. Nothing to do with USB 2 v 3, they'll >make no difference.

    A few of them have a physical write protect switch, but it's rare.

    If it was just Windows being dumb you could still wipe the partitions and >reformat it, which suggests it's a deeper problem.

    If it's new-ish, and a USB 3.2 drive sounds like it might be, I'd complain
    to SanDisk.

    It's been lying around for so long that I don't remember buying it. I
    only bought it to try out the high speed feature. Besides, I don't
    want SanDisk reading my data.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 09:28:11 2025
    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 01:41:48 -0400, Paul <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 3/26/2025 2:14 PM, Scott wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 13:05:25 -0400, Paul <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 3/26/2025 12:04 PM, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks

    Does it have a part number, like "SDCZ800-064G" ?

    BL210357727W
    SDCZ48-016G

    I would try it in a second machine, or change OS from
    Windows to Linux and see if the behavior is confirmed.

    Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough to install Linux.

    The root cause, could be something like this:

    https://www.diskpart.com/screenshot/en/others/others/attributes-disk-clear-readonly.png

    This is what I tried. It claimed success but the write protection
    remained.

    but it could also be that one of the two flash chips has failed and
    the critical data in the flash chip no long allows changes or something. >>> You would suspect something like that, if recently the device write
    rate had dropped to 1.5MB/sec.

    It is write protected so not possible to check.


    There is one other OS-level way this could happen,
    but this apparently can affect more than just flash drives.
    You might find secondary hard drives or secondary SSDs
    also exhibiting the symptoms, if this was the reason.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/124456-deny-write-access-fixed-data-drives-not-protected-bitlocker.html

    The Sandisk forum has several long threads on this issue.
    Consisting of mostly complaints. And a few bad ideas :-)

    Thanks. I was aware that there are issues. I tried the main suggested
    remedy without success. I'm just going to put it down to experience
    and buy cheaper USD drives in future :-)

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Scott on Fri Mar 28 09:49:33 2025
    On 26/03/2025 16:04, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks


    I have a couple of micro SDHC cards which have gone rogue & won't format
    after they were used in a Raspberry-Pi.
    Tried all the remedies I could find, including diskpart but none worked.
    Some even told me that they had successfully partitioned a card but they remained in their rogue state.


    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 28 11:56:15 2025
    On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 09:49:33 +0000, wasbit <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 26/03/2025 16:04, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks


    I have a couple of micro SDHC cards which have gone rogue & won't format >after they were used in a Raspberry-Pi.
    Tried all the remedies I could find, including diskpart but none worked.
    Some even told me that they had successfully partitioned a card but they >remained in their rogue state.

    That gives me an idea. I used the memory stick in my Roku box. I
    wonder if this corrupted it. It's in the destruction box now (the
    memory stick, that is).

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Scott on Fri Mar 28 15:40:50 2025
    Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 09:49:33 +0000, wasbit <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 26/03/2025 16:04, Scott wrote:
    I have a SanDisk 3.2 USB drive which claims to be write protected. I
    cannot reformat it or delete any files. I have tried the recommended
    command prompt route (diskpart etc), which does not work. Is there a
    better way or should I just bin it? Thanks


    I have a couple of micro SDHC cards which have gone rogue & won't format >after they were used in a Raspberry-Pi.
    Tried all the remedies I could find, including diskpart but none worked. >Some even told me that they had successfully partitioned a card but they >remained in their rogue state.

    That gives me an idea. I used the memory stick in my Roku box. I
    wonder if this corrupted it. It's in the destruction box now (the
    memory stick, that is).

    I know it's possible to kill SD cards by taking power away from them (rather than doing a safe shutdown/unmount), maybe because they were in the middle
    of a write operation. Perhaps that applies to some USB sticks too? There's
    a wide range, from 'SD card in a USB adapter', though 'USB microcontroller
    and a NAND chip' to 'full SSD controller plus a USB to NVMe/SATA adapter'. Perhaps the cheaper end of that spectrum could be more susceptible to power removal, who knows?

    Theo

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