• Bathroom refurb costs

    From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 21:48:19 2025
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    �10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that
    typical? Work is beyond my skill level.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Mon Mar 24 08:20:24 2025
    AnthonyL <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    £10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that typical? Work is beyond my skill level.

    Sounds about right. We've just had new shower, floor, tiling on walls
    + washbasin & toilet. Cost about £8500, rural Suffolk.

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  • From John Rumm@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Mon Mar 24 11:19:32 2025
    On 23/03/2025 21:48, AnthonyL wrote:
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    Ł10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that typical? Work is beyond my skill level.


    Sounds plausible... when I did a pair of bathrooms back in 2018 [1], the materials alone cost something like £6k... that was for two bathrooms
    using mid range fittings, rather than one, but was also before the big
    spike in inflation since. So £3 to 4k for materials seems likely. There
    is also a significant amount of labour that goes into a bathroom with
    multiple trades that need to be sequenced right, and not much space to work.



    [1] https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/The_secret_diary_of_a_bathroom_refurbishment

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 24 19:23:59 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:19:32 +0000, John Rumm
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 23/03/2025 21:48, AnthonyL wrote:
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    Ł10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that
    typical? Work is beyond my skill level.


    Sounds plausible... when I did a pair of bathrooms back in 2018 [1], the >materials alone cost something like £6k... that was for two bathrooms
    using mid range fittings, rather than one, but was also before the big
    spike in inflation since. So £3 to 4k for materials seems likely. There
    is also a significant amount of labour that goes into a bathroom with >multiple trades that need to be sequenced right, and not much space to work.


    Oh dear, our eyes are much bigger than the expected budget which has
    now been depleted by the Trump effect on our investments.

    We have two bathrooms/shower rooms that SWMBO wants tarting up.
    Personally they work so I don't see the attraction of spending �20k
    but hey ho - going to have to find a way.


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Mon Mar 24 19:44:01 2025
    AnthonyL <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:19:32 +0000, John Rumm
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 23/03/2025 21:48, AnthonyL wrote:
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    Å?10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that >> typical? Work is beyond my skill level.


    Sounds plausible... when I did a pair of bathrooms back in 2018 [1], the >materials alone cost something like £6k... that was for two bathrooms >using mid range fittings, rather than one, but was also before the big >spike in inflation since. So £3 to 4k for materials seems likely. There >is also a significant amount of labour that goes into a bathroom with >multiple trades that need to be sequenced right, and not much space to work.


    Oh dear, our eyes are much bigger than the expected budget which has
    now been depleted by the Trump effect on our investments.

    We have two bathrooms/shower rooms that SWMBO wants tarting up.
    Personally they work so I don't see the attraction of spending £20k
    but hey ho - going to have to find a way.

    Could you 'just' do whatever has the biggest impact, eg keep the suite but retile and refloor; or put cabinets around the existing suite; or new suite
    but everything else the same?

    Any parts you could DIY?

    Theo

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Theo on Tue Mar 25 05:24:30 2025
    On 24 Mar 2025 at 19:44:01 GMT, Theo wrote:

    AnthonyL <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:19:32 +0000, John Rumm
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 23/03/2025 21:48, AnthonyL wrote:
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    Å?10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that >>>> typical? Work is beyond my skill level.


    Sounds plausible... when I did a pair of bathrooms back in 2018 [1], the >>> materials alone cost something like £6k... that was for two bathrooms >>> using mid range fittings, rather than one, but was also before the big
    spike in inflation since. So £3 to 4k for materials seems likely. There >>> is also a significant amount of labour that goes into a bathroom with
    multiple trades that need to be sequenced right, and not much space to work.


    Oh dear, our eyes are much bigger than the expected budget which has
    now been depleted by the Trump effect on our investments.

    We have two bathrooms/shower rooms that SWMBO wants tarting up.
    Personally they work so I don't see the attraction of spending £20k
    but hey ho - going to have to find a way.


    I recently did a floor up Wickes just-above-basic and it was under £2k - of which £500 was moving an internal wall. I say 'did' - I still haven't finished it a year on. Some general finishing, plastering and tiling still to do.

    Could you 'just' do whatever has the biggest impact, eg keep the suite but retile and refloor; or put cabinets around the existing suite; or new suite but everything else the same?


    Indeed. If you can afford the space, panelling or tiling over existing is
    quick and effective for example. There's a pic here of the bathroom I did at
    my last place:

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1mG4VTwGGSjmMl

    MDF panels over grotty tiles and walls, with 50mm of PIR while I was at it.. That was another complete refit - pretty sure it was less than £2k at today's prices

    Any parts you could DIY?


    Parts of if I find strangely fulfilling - floors, fitting baths/basins, plumbing and working out what to route where neatly. Not so keen on tiling, finishing in general and toilets. And I know it's done properly - none of that wastes going uphill and convoluted runs of water pipes.

    As mentioned, though, I can see why it's an expensive job if you're getting someone in

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to RJH on Tue Mar 25 11:05:45 2025
    On 25/03/2025 05:24, RJH wrote:
    As mentioned, though, I can see why it's an expensive job if you're getting someone in

    I slated my entire kitchen mack in 2002. 30 sq m.

    Took about 5 weeks. I wanted it level and the floor underenath was
    anything but.

    It takes me several weeks to pain a room, what with all the
    imperfections filled, the woodwork re-finished and so on.
    Quality takes time and time is money to a professional.

    They try and make a t least £500 a day if they can. To allow for all the wasted time at the builders merchants, getting to the job and doing
    quotes that didn't turn into work etc.


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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 20:19:04 2025
    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 05:24:30 -0000 (UTC), RJH <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 24 Mar 2025 at 19:44:01 GMT, Theo wrote:

    AnthonyL <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:19:32 +0000, John Rumm
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 23/03/2025 21:48, AnthonyL wrote:
    Modest size bathroom, wash basin, toilet, bath. Work is nothing
    especially fancy:

    New sink with cupboard/vanity unit
    New bath with shower mixer tap
    New toilet preferably with storage cupboard
    Extractor fan
    Rip out tiles and replace with panelling
    Rip out carpet and put decent tiles down

    I guess this is all fairly standard and we're looking at functional
    and smart rather than high end luxury.

    Å?10k from both a small independent specialist and a big shed. Is that >>>>> typical? Work is beyond my skill level.


    Sounds plausible... when I did a pair of bathrooms back in 2018 [1], the >>>> materials alone cost something like £6k... that was for two bathrooms >>>> using mid range fittings, rather than one, but was also before the big >>>> spike in inflation since. So £3 to 4k for materials seems likely. There >>>> is also a significant amount of labour that goes into a bathroom with
    multiple trades that need to be sequenced right, and not much space to work.


    Oh dear, our eyes are much bigger than the expected budget which has
    now been depleted by the Trump effect on our investments.

    We have two bathrooms/shower rooms that SWMBO wants tarting up.
    Personally they work so I don't see the attraction of spending £20k
    but hey ho - going to have to find a way.


    I recently did a floor up Wickes just-above-basic and it was under £2k - of >which £500 was moving an internal wall. I say 'did' - I still haven't finished
    it a year on. Some general finishing, plastering and tiling still to do.

    Could you 'just' do whatever has the biggest impact, eg keep the suite but >> retile and refloor; or put cabinets around the existing suite; or new suite >> but everything else the same?


    Indeed. If you can afford the space, panelling or tiling over existing is >quick and effective for example. There's a pic here of the bathroom I did at >my last place:

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1mG4VTwGGSjmMl

    MDF panels over grotty tiles and walls, with 50mm of PIR while I was at it.. >That was another complete refit - pretty sure it was less than £2k at today's >prices

    Any parts you could DIY?


    Parts of if I find strangely fulfilling - floors, fitting baths/basins, >plumbing and working out what to route where neatly. Not so keen on tiling, >finishing in general and toilets. And I know it's done properly - none of that >wastes going uphill and convoluted runs of water pipes.


    In my younger days I wouldn't hesitate. Not having it finished in 12
    months is not an acceptable option.

    As mentioned, though, I can see why it's an expensive job if you're getting >someone in


    I'm beginning to understand that :(

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