Peter Johnson wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTe88hn-Y-neJ1O3Vi3NkxIRtXhtMx4Y/view?usp=sharing?

"You need access"

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Any ideas on how to remove this basic trap: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTe88hn-Y-neJ1O3Vi3NkxIRtXhtMx4Y/view?usp=sharing?

Any thoughts appreciated.

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On 15/03/2025 15:15, Peter Johnson wrote:

Any ideas on how to remove this basic trap: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTe88hn-Y-neJ1O3Vi3NkxIRtXhtMx4Y/view?usp=sharing?

Any thoughts appreciated.

No access "request access or switch to an account with access"

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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 15:22:10 +0000, Andy Burns <[email protected]>
wrote:

Peter Johnson wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTe88hn-Y-neJ1O3Vi3NkxIRtXhtMx4Y/view?usp=sharing?

"You need access"

It should work now. Haven't used Google Drive to share before.
However, in the meantime, I've been able to remove the trap by using a screwdriver as a lever in the release opening to turn the trap and
break the seal.

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On 15/03/2025 16:21, Peter Johnson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 15:22:10 +0000, Andy Burns <[email protected]>
wrote:

Peter Johnson wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTe88hn-Y-neJ1O3Vi3NkxIRtXhtMx4Y/view?usp=sharing?

"You need access"

It should work now. Haven't used Google Drive to share before.
However, in the meantime, I've been able to remove the trap by using a screwdriver as a lever in the release opening to turn the trap and
break the seal.

Have you got a photo of the top side - from inside of the basin.

Also a photo taken from the bottom but showing what may be up the hole

Is that a screw thread at point where the fitting enters the basin?

My guess is that it must screw in from the top. Maybe a central screw or
the whole grill turns. If the latter use some pointed nose pliers to
insert into the grill to turn. Maybe use a screw driver across the
handles of the pliers to give more leverage. If re-using the fitting
wrap the jaws of the pliers in tape to protect the chrome. I guess that
the fitting may have been installed with plumbers mate or similar and
you make have to try and break that bond before something turns.

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On 15/03/2025 15:15, Peter Johnson wrote:

Any ideas on how to remove this basic trap:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTe88hn-Y-neJ1O3Vi3NkxIRtXhtMx4Y/view?usp=sharing?

That is the basin waste fitting (the trap is the bit that screw onto that).

These typically fit in one of three ways

1) fixed from the top by a screw down through the plug hole.

2) Fixed by the whole plug hole surround screwing into the section on
the under side of the basin

3) Retained from the bottom by a big (typically 43 or 50mm diameter)
backnut that tightens a washer and rubber cone against the underside of
the basin.

Yours would appears to be of type 1 or 2 from that list.

Check if there is screw in the centre of the plughole. If so remove that
and the bits should separate (although note they may have been bedded in silicone sealant and need a bit of prising to get free). Sometimes the
"screw" is a wide one with a hole right through so you need a wide
slotted driver to engage with the notches in its perimeter. (yours
appears to be a popup waste, so if a screw type, that is what I would
expect here if it is not type 2.

If there is no screw, then jam rotation of the plug hole (couple of
"crossed" screw drivers in the plug hole "grille" or the tips of some
waterpump pliers etc), and unscrew the bottom bit by hand.

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As I said in my second posting, I succeeded in removing the drain.
Photo at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BGcE7LeVW0Sb-MFCShc7AtYSq7VPm-D2/view?usp=sharing

I installed it 20 years ago, and apart from remembering that generous
amounts of silicon had been involved, had no idea how it went
together. All's well that end's well. Waiting for a suitable
adjustable wrench to arrive so that I can have a further attempt at
sealing its replacement.

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On 16/03/2025 11:12, Peter Johnson wrote:

As I said in my second posting, I succeeded in removing the drain.
Photo at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BGcE7LeVW0Sb-MFCShc7AtYSq7VPm-D2/view?usp=sharing

Well done...

I was obviously reading your second post a bit to literally since it
only made reference to removing the trap - something that was already
apparent from the first photo.

I installed it 20 years ago, and apart from remembering that generous
amounts of silicon had been involved, had no idea how it went
together. All's well that end's well.

Yup the can be a right PITA to remove - especially if there is a
pedestal in the way restricting access.

Waiting for a suitable
adjustable wrench to arrive so that I can have a further attempt at
sealing its replacement.

The ones with a backnut can be very difficult to get at - a spanner big
enough to go round it is also difficult to get into the space. The
tubular box spanners[1] are often the easiest since they work "inline"
and allow you to apply the torque a bit further away from obstructions
close to the underside of the basin.


[1] e.g:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FG9UAFE


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On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:02:24 +0000, John Rumm
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 16/03/2025 11:12, Peter Johnson wrote:

As I said in my second posting, I succeeded in removing the drain.
Photo at
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BGcE7LeVW0Sb-MFCShc7AtYSq7VPm-D2/view?usp=sharing

Well done...

I was obviously reading your second post a bit to literally since it
only made reference to removing the trap - something that was already >apparent from the first photo.

Don't know what I was thinking when I typed trap. I knew what I meant
and the photo, as you observed, showed that I wasn't referring to the
trap.

I installed it 20 years ago, and apart from remembering that generous
amounts of silicon had been involved, had no idea how it went
together. All's well that end's well.

Yup the can be a right PITA to remove - especially if there is a
pedestal in the way restricting access.

Waiting for a suitable
adjustable wrench to arrive so that I can have a further attempt at
sealing its replacement.

The ones with a backnut can be very difficult to get at - a spanner big >enough to go round it is also difficult to get into the space. The
tubular box spanners[1] are often the easiest since they work "inline"
and allow you to apply the torque a bit further away from obstructions
close to the underside of the basin.

[1] e.g:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FG9UAFE

When I looked I couldn't find that! Instead I got https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B085NN3YWZ which did the job once I
wrapped it in tape to keep it set at the required width. I'll get a
box spanner though, next time I order. I'm sure that it'll come in
handy one day.

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On 17/03/2025 11:53, Peter Johnson wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:02:24 +0000, John Rumm
<[email protected]> wrote:

The ones with a backnut can be very difficult to get at - a spanner big
enough to go round it is also difficult to get into the space. The
tubular box spanners[1] are often the easiest since they work "inline"
and allow you to apply the torque a bit further away from obstructions
close to the underside of the basin.


[1] e.g:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FG9UAFE

When I looked I couldn't find that! Instead I got https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B085NN3YWZ which did the job once I
wrapped it in tape to keep it set at the required width. I'll get a
box spanner though, next time I order. I'm sure that it'll come in
handy one day.

As it happens I had just played that game. One basin had a "click/clack"
type pop up waste, that decided to pop off completely rather than just
up, and in a very final looking way!

So I got a new one, and then way too little fun getting the old one out
since I could not find the small pair of water pump pliers that were
just small enough to get in the gap, while also opening up to 50mm to
get round the nut. Managed to get it out with the crossed screwdrivers
trick in the end. Getting the new one in and tight enough was also not
fun, so I added a box spanner to to a recent order.

(something else to add more weight to my plumbing tool box!)

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On 17/03/2025 11:53, Peter Johnson wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:02:24 +0000, John Rumm
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 16/03/2025 11:12, Peter Johnson wrote:

As I said in my second posting, I succeeded in removing the drain.
Photo at
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BGcE7LeVW0Sb-MFCShc7AtYSq7VPm-D2/view?usp=sharing

Well done...

I was obviously reading your second post a bit to literally since it
only made reference to removing the trap - something that was already
apparent from the first photo.

Don't know what I was thinking when I typed trap. I knew what I meant
and the photo, as you observed, showed that I wasn't referring to the
trap.

I installed it 20 years ago, and apart from remembering that generous
amounts of silicon had been involved, had no idea how it went
together. All's well that end's well.

Yup the can be a right PITA to remove - especially if there is a
pedestal in the way restricting access.

Waiting for a suitable
adjustable wrench to arrive so that I can have a further attempt at
sealing its replacement.

The ones with a backnut can be very difficult to get at - a spanner big
enough to go round it is also difficult to get into the space. The
tubular box spanners[1] are often the easiest since they work "inline"
and allow you to apply the torque a bit further away from obstructions
close to the underside of the basin.


[1] e.g:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FG9UAFE

When I looked I couldn't find that! Instead I got https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B085NN3YWZ

I looked at that, and noted the text:

"Ergonomically Designed Hangle" (on the forth image from the left).

Surely all Hangles should be ergonomically designed?


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