• Pipe sizes

    From Andrew Gabriel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 22 22:44:07 2025
    I was helping a friend who is building something which uses a heat
    exchanger to heat the air. He bought a heat exchanger which is meant to
    be part of an outside split aircon unit I suspect. It's got what looks
    like a 28mm copper input and output (which fans out into lots of
    microbore going through the fins).

    However, on connecting, it was larger that 28mm. Ah, maybe it's 1"
    imperial? Nope, larger than that. It's 1⅛" ACR pipe.
    (ACR = Aircon and refrigeration, which still works in inches, but not
    same as the imperial sizes.)

    So I was amused by the variety of almost-28mm copper tube sizes:

    28mm - standard for water and gas.
    28.24mm - 1" imperial which was standard and I still find in use.
    28.65mm - 1⅛" ACR pipe for aircon and refrigeration.

    To connect to 15mm copper for feeding water through it, I eventually
    suggested 1⅛" ACR to ⅞" ACR (which is 22.225mm) to connect 22mm pipe,
    and then a bog-standard 22mm to 15mm adapter.

    Initially we talked about using a swaging tool to generate a 1⅛" ACR
    socket in 28mm copper tube, but they're expensive. He knows some aircon companies, and none had a swaging tool that large - probably need a
    company which does datacentre or supermarket fridge/freezer cabinet
    installs to be using 1⅛" ACR copper tube.

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    Andrew Gabriel

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Andrew Gabriel on Sun Feb 23 16:10:02 2025
    On 22/02/2025 22:44, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
    I was helping a friend who is building something which uses a heat
    exchanger to heat the air. He bought a heat exchanger which is meant to
    be part of an outside split aircon unit I suspect. It's got what looks
    like a 28mm copper input and output (which fans out into lots of
    microbore going through the fins).

    However, on connecting, it was larger that 28mm. Ah, maybe it's 1"
    imperial? Nope, larger than that. It's 1⅛" ACR pipe.
    (ACR = Aircon and refrigeration, which still works in inches, but not
    same as the imperial sizes.)

    So I was amused by the variety of almost-28mm copper tube sizes:

    28mm - standard for water and gas.
    28.24mm - 1" imperial which was standard and I still find in use.
    28.65mm - 1⅛" ACR pipe for aircon and refrigeration.

    To connect to 15mm copper for feeding water through it, I eventually suggested 1⅛" ACR to ⅞" ACR (which is 22.225mm) to connect 22mm pipe,
    and then a bog-standard 22mm to 15mm adapter.

    Initially we talked about using a swaging tool to generate a 1⅛" ACR
    socket in 28mm copper tube, but they're expensive. He knows some aircon companies, and none had a swaging tool that large - probably need a
    company which does datacentre or supermarket fridge/freezer cabinet
    installs to be using 1⅛" ACR copper tube.


    Isn't aircon and refridgeration copper pipe made to different standard
    like thicker walls etc so that the system can be vacuumed out before
    recharging with gas and oil ??.

    Also found this via Google -
    "The major difference between refrigerant tubing and copper pipe used in plumbing is how the size of the tubing is measured. With copper
    pipe/tubing used in plumbing, the size refers to the ID of the pipe.
    With refrigerant tubing (ACR) the size refers to the OD. For example,
    1/2'' type L copper is 1/2'' ID and 5/8'' OD."

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