• Best tool to remove climbing vine

    From Theo@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 23 15:19:02 2025
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    At some point I may have to remove large quantities of virginia creeper
    (Boston Ivy, technically) from a brick wall - it's 40 years old, very
    vigorous and covers about 100-150m2.

    I know that the usual technique is to chop the trunk and let the branches
    die off so they become brittle, but then how do you remove them? The
    suckers shrivel and become easy to break, but with this kind of an area it feels like it needs some kind of power tool to slice the branches away from
    the wall. Just pulling them when they're all matted together is going to be very hard work.

    I was looking at reciprocating saws (the smaller one-handed variety like the Milwaukee Hackzall rather than the bigger two-handed Sawzall), but is there something out there that will do the job more efficiently?

    Also, is there anything that will effectively clean up the little bits left behind, some kind of power wire brush perhaps?

    Thanks,
    Theo

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu Jan 23 15:40:57 2025
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    On 23/01/2025 15:19, Theo wrote:
    At some point I may have to remove large quantities of virginia creeper (Boston Ivy, technically) from a brick wall - it's 40 years old, very vigorous and covers about 100-150m2.

    I know that the usual technique is to chop the trunk and let the branches
    die off so they become brittle, but then how do you remove them? The
    suckers shrivel and become easy to break, but with this kind of an area it feels like it needs some kind of power tool to slice the branches away from the wall. Just pulling them when they're all matted together is going to be very hard work.

    Hook up a rope to a car or tractor style lawnmower. Let the VW Golf take
    the strain. Once the suckery things dry out it more or less falls off
    quite easily - Ivy does, anyway...

    Cutting them up is a recipe for having buts left behind IMHO.

    I'd use a chainsaw if it were me, cos I have one. If it were needed, but
    I'd start by pulling with the lawn tractor.



    I was looking at reciprocating saws (the smaller one-handed variety like the Milwaukee Hackzall rather than the bigger two-handed Sawzall), but is there something out there that will do the job more efficiently?

    Also, is there anything that will effectively clean up the little bits left behind, some kind of power wire brush perhaps?

    Pressure washer for that bit...

    Thanks,
    Theo

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 23 16:50:59 2025
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    In uk.d-i-y The Natural Philosopher <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Hook up a rope to a car or tractor style lawnmower. Let the VW Golf take
    the strain. Once the suckery things dry out it more or less falls off
    quite easily - Ivy does, anyway...

    Cutting them up is a recipe for having buts left behind IMHO.

    I'd use a chainsaw if it were me, cos I have one. If it were needed, but
    I'd start by pulling with the lawn tractor.

    Unfortunately there's other buildings in the way so there's only about a
    metre to the side. Enough to get a ladder/scaffolding up, but any large
    scale pulling would be parallel to the wall - probably won't do very much.

    Ratchet straps pulled from the base of the wall are a possibility, but not
    to much height due to risks of wayward branches damaging other things.

    Theo

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu Jan 23 16:59:50 2025
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    On 23/01/2025 16:50, Theo wrote:
    In uk.d-i-y The Natural Philosopher <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Hook up a rope to a car or tractor style lawnmower. Let the VW Golf take
    the strain. Once the suckery things dry out it more or less falls off
    quite easily - Ivy does, anyway...

    Cutting them up is a recipe for having buts left behind IMHO.

    I'd use a chainsaw if it were me, cos I have one. If it were needed, but
    I'd start by pulling with the lawn tractor.

    Unfortunately there's other buildings in the way so there's only about a metre to the side. Enough to get a ladder/scaffolding up, but any large scale pulling would be parallel to the wall - probably won't do very much.


    That might do the trick actually - pulling parallel too the wall.

    Or use a snatch block...



    Ratchet straps pulled from the base of the wall are a possibility, but not
    to much height due to risks of wayward branches damaging other things.

    Theo

    Well kill the plants off first and see what it takes to pull them loose

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jan 23 17:29:59 2025
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    alan_m <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 23/01/2025 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    That might do the trick actually - pulling parallel too the wall.

    Or use a snatch block...


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q9OGaX6tG_U

    Similar but with many more ideas to remove the stubborn bits and using a
    blow torch and wire brush at the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpPIOErt3lU


    Blow torch and wire brush is exactly what I ended up using!

    Tim

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jan 23 17:57:59 2025
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    In uk.d-i-y alan_m <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 23/01/2025 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    That might do the trick actually - pulling parallel too the wall.

    Or use a snatch block...


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q9OGaX6tG_U

    Hmm, that's interesting (and the other videos). With the branches being up
    to 4" across I'm not sure if doing that's going to take the wall with it...

    I note that's green - is there any downside to killing it first? I suppose it's more liable to snap and come off in bits, but if it's so tightly intertwined then presumably it'll still want to come off as a sheet?

    Similar but with many more ideas to remove the stubborn bits and using a
    blow torch and wire brush at the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpPIOErt3lU

    That does look like a good way to go for cleanup (with a drill wire brush probably).

    Theo

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 23 17:21:13 2025
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    On 23/01/2025 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    That might do the trick actually - pulling parallel too the wall.

    Or use a snatch block...


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q9OGaX6tG_U

    Similar but with many more ideas to remove the stubborn bits and using a
    blow torch and wire brush at the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpPIOErt3lU

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu Jan 23 18:20:56 2025
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    On 23/01/2025 17:57, Theo wrote:
    I note that's green - is there any downside to killing it first? I suppose it's more liable to snap and come off in bits, but if it's so tightly intertwined then presumably it'll still want to come off as a sheet?
    Ive had the most success with ivy by killing it first


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  • From Timatmarford@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 23 20:13:20 2025
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    On 23/01/2025 18:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 23/01/2025 17:57, Theo wrote:
    I note that's green - is there any downside to killing it first?  I
    suppose
    it's more liable to snap and come off in bits, but if it's so tightly
    intertwined then presumably it'll still want to come off as a sheet?
    Ive had the most success with ivy by killing it first

    Me too. Although I had good access. 3" Ivy stems up the garage wall and
    into the gutter. Biggest nuisance was the mice using it as a route to
    carry in and store their winter supplies!
    Reciprocating saw at ground level and pulled off 12 months later. Angle
    grinder fitted with a wire brush and run at low speed finished the job.



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