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  • OT: Land border between Italy and Turkey

    From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 3 15:05:43 2025
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    I have been away from Italy for some time but I didn't know there was a
    land border between Italy and Turkey and that a wall was built in
    between the two countries.

    Suella actually saw that wall and I tend to believe her.

    Why wasn't I informed? I feel offended!

    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 3 15:18:04 2025
    On 03/01/2025 in message <vl8uc7$3ut8k$[email protected]> Ottavio Caruso
    wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    I have been away from Italy for some time but I didn't know there was a
    land border between Italy and Turkey and that a wall was built in between
    the two countries.

    Suella actually saw that wall and I tend to believe her.

    Why wasn't I informed? I feel offended!

    Perhaps you should make a quick visit, lots can happen when you're away
    for a while :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Fri Jan 3 17:11:26 2025
    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso" <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    --
    “It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established
    authorities are wrong.”

    ― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jan 3 16:54:31 2025
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso" <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    --
    All of science is either physics or stamp-collecting.

    Ernest Rutherford

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 3 17:47:44 2025
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

    Oh - and: while there is the usual level of childish amusement at Suella's gaffe, it's worth reminding everyone that not so long ago, Turkey (in those days, the Ottoman Empire) very nearly *did* have a border with Italy (or at least, whatever statelet existed in north-east Italy at the time). The
    Ottomans had pushed well north of Belgrade, nearly to Vienna.

    --
    "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Fri Jan 3 18:06:36 2025
    On 03/01/2025 17:47, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

    Oh - and: while there is the usual level of childish amusement at Suella's gaffe, it's worth reminding everyone that not so long ago, Turkey (in those days, the Ottoman Empire) very nearly *did* have a border with Italy (or at least, whatever statelet existed in north-east Italy at the time). The Ottomans had pushed well north of Belgrade, nearly to Vienna.

    Perhaps Suella visited the (almost) border during the heyday of the
    Ottoman Empire.
    Imagine how foolish all the people who mocked her are going to feel when
    the truth is known.

    No doubt her time as chair of the European Research Group involved
    searching out such little known borders.

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Fri Jan 3 18:17:22 2025
    On 03/01/2025 17:47, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

    I am not a mirror subscriber.


    Oh - and: while there is the usual level of childish amusement at Suella's gaffe, it's worth reminding everyone that not so long ago, Turkey (in those days, the Ottoman Empire) very nearly *did* have a border with Italy (or at least, whatever statelet existed in north-east Italy at the time). The Ottomans had pushed well north of Belgrade, nearly to Vienna.

    Fucking Arabs were in Spain at one time.

    --
    "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
    always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

    Margaret Thatcher

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  • From Yamn2 Remailer@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jan 3 21:02:15 2025
    On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 18:17:22 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 17:47, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

    I am not a mirror subscriber.


    Oh - and: while there is the usual level of childish amusement at
    Suella's
    gaffe, it's worth reminding everyone that not so long ago, Turkey
    (in those
    days, the Ottoman Empire) very nearly *did* have a border with Italy
    (or at
    least, whatever statelet existed in north-east Italy at the time).
    The
    Ottomans had pushed well north of Belgrade, nearly to Vienna.

    Fucking Arabs were in Spain at one time.


    Fact is that Spain attacked N Africa, but the Arabic Jews plan to
    retaliate worked out well for N Africa. Spain was a shit hole before,
    it was almost
    as bad a your bastard race yukky yukraine. As is e Europe, not a single positive contribution or
    a history greater than 900 years.
    So what does that make them.. a piece of genetic vermin bastard to
    animal shit inferiority that will soon be nuked,
    then hunted down no matter how far related. Same goes for your entire
    family.

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Sat Jan 4 22:03:09 2025
    On 3 Jan 2025 17:47:44 GMT, Tim Streater <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <[email protected]d> >wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.



    I use Firefox locked down with uBlock Origin and am not a subscriber.
    Works well enough for me to read she has now done her geography
    studies and had confused Italy for Greece. I had similar problems at
    school when I sometimes struggled with whether a word was classical
    Latin or Classical Greek. Fortunately I did not go on to become a
    translator.


    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 4 21:59:00 2025
    On 3 Jan 2025 15:18:04 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 in message <vl8uc7$3ut8k$[email protected]> Ottavio Caruso
    wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    I have been away from Italy for some time but I didn't know there was a >>land border between Italy and Turkey and that a wall was built in between >>the two countries.

    Suella actually saw that wall and I tend to believe her.

    Why wasn't I informed? I feel offended!

    Perhaps you should make a quick visit, lots can happen when you're away
    for a while :-)


    Too late, there was a great sea flood, the wall has gone. All down to
    global warming I hear, or was it hot air?


    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Sun Jan 5 09:59:12 2025
    On 03/01/2025 17:47, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

    Edge displays a paywall for me, but Firefox (with add ons) shows content.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Nick Finnigan on Sun Jan 5 10:25:07 2025
    On 05/01/2025 09:59, Nick Finnigan wrote:
    On 03/01/2025 17:47, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
    <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

     Edge displays a paywall for me, but Firefox (with add ons) shows content.

    Probably Ublock Origin blocks the paywall.

    --
    “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
    fill the world with fools.”

    Herbert Spencer

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  • From Handsome Jack@21:1/5 to Nick Finnigan on Sun Jan 5 12:03:40 2025
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 09:59:12 +0000, Nick Finnigan wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 17:47, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 17:11:26 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
    <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 03/01/2025 16:54, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 at 15:05:43 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked- saying-visited-34408570

    This link is, in practice, unusable.

    Works fine for me.

    Only if you are a Mirror subscriber.

    Edge displays a paywall for me, but Firefox (with add ons) shows
    content.

    Firefox without addons displays the content if you press the "Toggle
    reader view" button in the address box.

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  • From jon@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Sun Jan 5 19:04:38 2025
    On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 15:05:43 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-
    visited-34408570

    I have been away from Italy for some time but I didn't know there was a
    land border between Italy and Turkey and that a wall was built in
    between the two countries.

    Suella actually saw that wall and I tend to believe her.

    Why wasn't I informed? I feel offended!

    Do you remember the Palaver about Trieste to-in and fro-in, One day it was
    in Yugoslavia and next day it was in Italy.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to jon on Thu Jan 9 18:38:30 2025
    On 05/01/2025 19:04, jon wrote:
    On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 15:05:43 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suella-braverman-mocked-saying-
    visited-34408570

    I have been away from Italy for some time but I didn't know there was a
    land border between Italy and Turkey and that a wall was built in
    between the two countries.

    Suella actually saw that wall and I tend to believe her.

    Why wasn't I informed? I feel offended!

    Do you remember the Palaver about Trieste to-in and fro-in, One day it was
    in Yugoslavia and next day it was in Italy.

    The inhabitants were able to take a foreign holiday without leaving home.

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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