My 16" MacBook Pro M1 is a wonderful machine, but it's just too large and
heavy and when some new models come out I will sell it and get a smaller one, or possibly even a MacBook Air.

I was passing by the Apple Store the other day in town to pick some up and see how they feel, and the iPads caught my eye too. It was like looking at a
direct descendant of an Apple //c. I think that was one of the prettiest machines Apple ever made, I really like the aesthetic of the floating display.

Anyway, that effect is the result of the iPad Magic Keyboard (who thinks up these names?). It looks and feels very much like a small and elegant desktop computer.

What's it like to use one of those on a long-term basis? I'm quite tempted to try.

I don't think it could replace a "proper" computer for me. I want access to a filesystem, I want to be able to drag and drop between applications. I want a menu bar!

And, I need to do things like run Docker, work in a terminal with all my developer tools and so on - things I won't be able to do properly on an iPad.

But, for a lot of other things it could be a different story.

Daniele

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 23/12/2022 23:36, D.M. Procida wrote:

My 16" MacBook Pro M1 is a wonderful machine, but it's just too large and heavy and when some new models come out I will sell it and get a smaller one, or possibly even a MacBook Air.

I was passing by the Apple Store the other day in town to pick some up and see
how they feel, and the iPads caught my eye too. It was like looking at a direct descendant of an Apple //c. I think that was one of the prettiest machines Apple ever made, I really like the aesthetic of the floating display.

Anyway, that effect is the result of the iPad Magic Keyboard (who thinks up these names?). It looks and feels very much like a small and elegant desktop computer.

What's it like to use one of those on a long-term basis? I'm quite tempted to try.

I don't think it could replace a "proper" computer for me. I want access to a filesystem, I want to be able to drag and drop between applications. I want a menu bar!

And, I need to do things like run Docker, work in a terminal with all my developer tools and so on - things I won't be able to do properly on an iPad.

But, for a lot of other things it could be a different story.

I switched to an iPad in 2020, and have the iPad Pro 12.9" 2020 model. I
had the intention of making it my primary device, and retire/sell my
iMac off.

It's certainly not a slam dunk to suggest anyone should do this, but I
am reasonably happy with my choice. It was cheaper than buying a new
iMac, or a MacBook Pro, although if you are buying the Magic Keyboard
too, it becomes a bit close in cost.

I am actually using the original Wireless Keyboard that came with my
iMac (I replaced it with a wired one). I also have an Omoton mouse (and
the matching keyword, which is designed nicely to work with an iPad, but
I prefer the feel of the Apple keyboard).

Plugging in a USB keyboard and mouse also works (I've tried it with my
Apple wired keyboard, and the Logitech Marble Mouse trackball, and it
all works just fine).

I did get the Pencil 2 when I bought it, and that's certainly a
worthwhile extra to get with it. It's not always that useful to me, but
it's handy nonetheless (I use it to move sliders and such like).

All said though, it's a more flexible package, as you can choose to
carry about the iPad alone, or add the extra bits as needed.

It is definitely OK for what I need, my primary heavy duty need is for
photo editing. But it's only a hobby for me, so Photos with Pixelmator
as an external editor is a fine setup. I use iCloud for the storage, and syncing between devices is easy, as is sharing stuff.

For other things, it does all I need, I rarely use iWork stuff these
days, and although it's a bit cramped for using Pages and Numbers etc.,
it does do it all.

Files is OK too, and that does work well with the iCloud drive. It works
with folders and files much as you would on a 'normal' computer.

You can now open multiple windows, and copy/paste and drag/drop between
them (that was possible even before Stage Manager).

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like,
a while back.

--
Andy H

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24 Dec 2022 at 12:33:20 GMT, "Andy Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like,
a while back.

I wonder what there is that stops macOS from running on an iPad (other than Apple's unwillingness, that is).

Daniele

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

In article <[email protected]>, D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like,
a while back.

I wonder what there is that stops macOS from running on an iPad (other than Apple's unwillingness, that is).

because they're two different products, for two different use cases.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 12:33:20 GMT, "Andy Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like,
a while back.

I wonder what there is that stops macOS from running on an iPad (other than Apple's unwillingness, that is).

Now that macOS is native Arm, nothing.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24 Dec 2022 at 15:37:33 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 12:33:20 GMT, "Andy Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like, >>> a while back.

I wonder what there is that stops macOS from running on an iPad (other than >> Apple's unwillingness, that is).

Now that macOS is native Arm, nothing.

Screen's too small. And if it's large enough, then it will be too large to carry around except as a laptop. In which case, have a lappy in a bag.

--
Tim

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24/12/2022 15:56, TimS wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 15:37:33 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

Screen's too small. And if it's large enough, then it will be too large to carry around except as a laptop. In which case, have a lappy in a bag.

I always thought there was a gap in the market that Apple should fill....

How about a 10"/11"/12" "iBook" (?) - lightweight with inbuilt keyboard
M2, running iOS - priced competitively to give the Google Chromebooks a
run for the money :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

I always thought there was a gap in the market that Apple should fill....

How about a 10"/11"/12" "iBook" (?) - lightweight with inbuilt keyboard
M2, running iOS - priced competitively to give the Google Chromebooks a
run for the money :-)

While that sounds like a great idea, its pretty clear that Apple is not interested in competing at the low end of the market. Plus, Chromebooks
are basically used in schools, where low price is the top priority.

A $150 iPad is just not going to happen.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24/12/2022 20:41, Bob Campbell wrote:

jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

I always thought there was a gap in the market that Apple should fill....

How about a 10"/11"/12" "iBook" (?) - lightweight with inbuilt keyboard
M2, running iOS - priced competitively to give the Google Chromebooks a
run for the money :-)

While that sounds like a great idea, its pretty clear that Apple is not interested in competing at the low end of the market. Plus, Chromebooks
are basically used in schools, where low price is the top priority.

A $150 iPad is just not going to happen.

Top end Google Chromebooks cost well over £1000... that's the
competition... not the other toys :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24/12/2022 21:58, TimS wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 19:38:12 GMT, "jbrennand" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24/12/2022 15:56, TimS wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 15:37:33 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:


Screen's too small. And if it's large enough, then it will be too large to >>> carry around except as a laptop. In which case, have a lappy in a bag.

I always thought there was a gap in the market that Apple should fill....

How about a 10"/11"/12" "iBook" (?) - lightweight with inbuilt keyboard
M2, running iOS - priced competitively to give the Google Chromebooks a
run for the money :-)

Why would I want to be running iOS?

To run all the Apps of course :-)

Yes I know that most should run on a Macbook but that's just too
expensive and OTT for that purpose. Or run on an iPad but that's
limited by lack of an integrated keyboard and IMO not a great user
experience for doing those "other" usages.

My iBook would be a perfect compromise - at the right price :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24 Dec 2022 at 19:38:12 GMT, "jbrennand" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24/12/2022 15:56, TimS wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 15:37:33 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

Screen's too small. And if it's large enough, then it will be too large to >> carry around except as a laptop. In which case, have a lappy in a bag.

I always thought there was a gap in the market that Apple should fill....

How about a 10"/11"/12" "iBook" (?) - lightweight with inbuilt keyboard
M2, running iOS - priced competitively to give the Google Chromebooks a
run for the money :-)

Why would I want to be running iOS?

--
Tim

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24/12/2022 22:21, nospam wrote:

In article <to7tfv$2ckcl$[email protected]>, jbrennand
<[email protected]> wrote:

Why would I want to be running iOS?

To run all the Apps of course :-)

Yes I know that most should run on a Macbook but that's just too
expensive and OTT for that purpose.

a macbook air costs about the same as an ipad pro + keyboard.

Good point.

But an air and keyboard is a clumsy set up to carry around in a coat
pocket and to use in an overcrowded space - when traveling for example.
My iOS iBook, should/could/would cost less - say £200 (?) than an entry
level Macbook Air - I still enjoy using the missus's older 11" Air for
its portability :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

In article <to7vu2$2cs0m$[email protected]>, jbrennand
<[email protected]> wrote:

Why would I want to be running iOS?

To run all the Apps of course :-)

Yes I know that most should run on a Macbook but that's just too
expensive and OTT for that purpose.

a macbook air costs about the same as an ipad pro + keyboard.

Good point.

But an air and keyboard is a clumsy set up to carry around in a coat
pocket and to use in an overcrowded space - when traveling for example.

do you mean ipad? because a macbook air has an attached keyboard. ipads
do not. an ipad keyboard attaches via magnets, or not at all and uses
bluetooth to communicate.

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

My iOS iBook, should/could/would cost less - say �200 (?) than an entry
level Macbook Air -

even the cheapest ipad is not that cheap.

I still enjoy using the missus's older 11" Air for
its portability :-)

yes, the 11" is/was *really* nice.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24/12/2022 23:00, nospam wrote:

In article <to7vu2$2cs0m$[email protected]>, jbrennand
<[email protected]> wrote:

Why would I want to be running iOS?

To run all the Apps of course :-)

Yes I know that most should run on a Macbook but that's just too
expensive and OTT for that purpose.

a macbook air costs about the same as an ipad pro + keyboard.

Good point.

But an air and keyboard is a clumsy set up to carry around in a coat
pocket and to use in an overcrowded space - when traveling for example.

do you mean ipad? because a macbook air has an attached keyboard. ipads
do not. an ipad keyboard attaches via magnets, or not at all and uses bluetooth to communicate.

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

My iOS iBook, should/could/would cost less - say £200 (?) than an entry
level Macbook Air -

even the cheapest ipad is not that cheap.

I still enjoy using the missus's older 11" Air for
its portability :-)

yes, the 11" is/was *really* nice.

Still is !

I am imagining.... Apple relaunching the same form factor (must be
tooled up to do that relatively quickly?) but with an M1 chip and
running the latest iOS..... costing £799! I'm in :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

In article <to7tfv$2ckcl$[email protected]>, jbrennand
<[email protected]> wrote:

Why would I want to be running iOS?

To run all the Apps of course :-)

Yes I know that most should run on a Macbook but that's just too
expensive and OTT for that purpose.

a macbook air costs about the same as an ipad pro + keyboard.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 2022-12-25 11:06:18 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<[email protected]> said:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

Cheers - Jaimie

I do like the 11" MBA (got 2 of them here). All they had to do is slim
the bezels down a bit. Apart from that (design-wise) it's a lovely
little machine.
--
Cheers ... Mark

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

My 16" MacBook Pro M1 is a wonderful machine, but it's just too large and heavy and when some new models come out I will sell it and get a smaller one, or possibly even a MacBook Air.

I was passing by the Apple Store the other day in town to pick some up and see
how they feel, and the iPads caught my eye too. It was like looking at a direct descendant of an Apple //c. I think that was one of the prettiest machines Apple ever made, I really like the aesthetic of the floating display.

Anyway, that effect is the result of the iPad Magic Keyboard (who thinks up these names?). It looks and feels very much like a small and elegant desktop computer.

What's it like to use one of those on a long-term basis? I'm quite tempted to try.

I don't think it could replace a "proper" computer for me. I want access to a filesystem, I want to be able to drag and drop between applications. I want a menu bar!

I have been using my iPad for over 10 years by now, do work differently and depends on type of work, plus play you do. Lot of my work is via Office
type apps with few extras. Plus browser interface into systems.

Has files which is if not a true file system good enough for light stuff.

And, I need to do things like run Docker, work in a terminal with all my developer tools and so on - things I won't be able to do properly on an iPad.

Some may be able if you have access to ssh to something.

But, for a lot of other things it could be a different story.

Daniele

Roger Merriman

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Sent from my Amiga 1000

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

In article <to80rb$2d0uu$[email protected]>, jbrennand
<[email protected]> wrote:

I still enjoy using the missus's older 11" Air for
its portability :-)

yes, the 11" is/was *really* nice.

Still is !

yep. i have two, although they've been relegated to secondary use.

I am imagining.... Apple relaunching the same form factor (must be
tooled up to do that relatively quickly?) but with an M1 chip and
running the latest iOS..... costing �799! I'm in :-)

maybe it will resurface in a reincarnation of the 12" retina macbook,
which at the time had low-power slow intel chips. an apple silicon
version would be *very* nice.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 12:33:20 GMT, "Andy Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like,
a while back.

I wonder what there is that stops macOS from running on an iPad (other than Apple's unwillingness, that is).

I think it is a missed opportunity for Apple
not to have developed something like Apple Remote Desktop on the iPad.

Such an app should allow you use an iPad Pro
(perhaps also using the Pencil) to control a (perhaps headless) Mac.
The Mac is doing its thing, with a genuine file system, big disks,
number crunching using a heavy processor, and so on,
while you may use the iPad in the meantime for more enjoyable things.

Best of two worlds for Apple, sell two products,

Jan

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2022-12-25 11:06:18 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<[email protected]> said:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

Cheers - Jaimie

I do like the 11" MBA (got 2 of them here). All they had to do is slim
the bezels down a bit. Apart from that (design-wise) it's a lovely
little machine.

It needed a retina screen. It was too low resolution for my liking.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 26 Dec 2022 at 11:10:34 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

Good point, well made!

I'll not be able to replace my 13" M1 MBP with one of those though, do
too many non-iOS things. Plus they're hideously expensive, even before
you add the floaty keyboard and the pencil.

Cheers - Jaimie

--
Sent from my Amiga 1000

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24 Dec 2022 at 15:56:54 GMT, "TimS" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 15:37:33 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 12:33:20 GMT, "Andy Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote:

Of course there's no Terminal, but then I was only using that to fix
stuff on the iMac, I stopped playing around with 'ports', and such like, >>>> a while back.

I wonder what there is that stops macOS from running on an iPad (other than >>> Apple's unwillingness, that is).

Now that macOS is native Arm, nothing.

Screen's too small. And if it's large enough, then it will be too large to carry around except as a laptop. In which case, have a lappy in a bag.

The screen is smaller, but not so much smaller that it wouldn't provise a good experience. The display pixel resolution is close to that of a MacBook Air.

But I think that the physical arrangement of the iPad-plus-keyboard means that a laptop isn't a straight alternative, even if the weight and size are roughly similar.

An iPad running macOS would give you a touchscreen interface, and the option
of running a keyboard-less macOS. The iPad's keyboard would offer some more flexible display arrangements too.

On the other hand, having most of the electronics in the display half would make the whole thing more top-heavy than a laptop, and there'd be considerably less room for the keyboard and trackpad.

I think I just like the look so reminiscent of the Apple //c.

Daniele

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

In article <[email protected]>, D.M. Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

An iPad running macOS would give you a touchscreen interface, and the option of running a keyboard-less macOS. The iPad's keyboard would offer some more flexible display arrangements too.

mac os is not designed for touch.

microsoft tried to combine touch and a non-touch user interfaces into
one os and it was a huge failure. apple is not going to do the same.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 26/12/2022 11:10, Chris wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

With no keyboard :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 26 Dec 2022 at 11:10:34 GMT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

Good point, well made!

I'll not be able to replace my 13" M1 MBP with one of those though, do
too many non-iOS things. Plus they're hideously expensive, even before
you add the floaty keyboard and the pencil.

Couldn't agree more. The touch screen is not that worth it when you can get
a MBP for close to the same price even for a fully loaded ipad Air.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

On 26/12/2022 11:10, Chris wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote:

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was
the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

With no keyboard :-)

Yes there is. It's simply optional.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 27/12/2022 09:33, Chris wrote:

jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

On 26/12/2022 11:10, Chris wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote: >>>>

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was >>>>> the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

With no keyboard :-)

Yes there is. It's simply optional.

And... extra expense and not... "integrated" - ie - clumsy to carry both
in the jacket pocket.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

In article <tohqc6$phh$[email protected]>, Mark
<[email protected]> wrote:

Does anyone carry an iPad in their jacket pocket (maybe the Mini, but I wouldn�t even if i could).

why bother with a jacket?

<https://technabob.com/blog/2011/05/03/ipad-pants-pocket/>

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

On 27/12/2022 09:33, Chris wrote:

jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

On 26/12/2022 11:10, Chris wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24 Dec 2022 at 23:00:27 GMT, "nospam" <[email protected]d> wrote: >>>>>

the macbook air 11" was *ideal* for carrying in a coat pocket, as was >>>>>> the 12" retina macbook. the 13" air is borderline.

I'm still sad there's no 11" or 12" Mseries.

There is. There's the 10.9" M1 iPad Air or the iPad Pro ;)

With no keyboard :-)

Yes there is. It's simply optional.

And... extra expense and not... "integrated" - ie - clumsy to carry both
in the jacket pocket.

Does anyone carry an iPad in their jacket pocket (maybe the Mini, but I wouldn’t even if i could).

Anyway… I noticed that one of my local CeX stores had a Brydge keyboard in stock to fit my iPad Air 3. Only £22 as well… worth a gamble. It’s very nice! Obviously not a ‘full size’ keyboard but certainly good enough for my needs.

Probably about as ‘integrated’ as you’re going to get I suppose. The combo
weighs a little less that the 11” MBA. Only (sorta) grumble so far is i
keep reaching for the trackpad… (I think their new ones have a trackpad,
but they also have a different attachment method. This one is has the
clamps you slot the iPad into).

--
Cheers ... Mark

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article <tohqc6$phh$[email protected]>, Mark
<[email protected]> wrote:

Does anyone carry an iPad in their jacket pocket (maybe the Mini, but I
wouldn¹t even if i could).

why bother with a jacket?

<https://technabob.com/blog/2011/05/03/ipad-pants-pocket/>

Good grief! I suppose you could use it to carry a cat or small dog around
if you didn’t have need of your iPad (or maybe a small child?)

--
Cheers ... Mark

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 28/12/2022 16:20, Mark wrote:

Probably about as ‘integrated’ as you’re going to get I suppose. The combo
weighs a little less that the 11” MBA. Only (sorta) grumble so far is i keep reaching for the trackpad… (I think their new ones have a trackpad, but they also have a different attachment method. This one is has the
clamps you slot the iPad into).

THey're quite nice, my wife has had two so far - one expired due to an overexcited cat dribbling on it! and the other good part is that it
makes a great stand. Multiple viewing angles, great.

The little curved rubber buffers on the front corners do go AWOL after a
while.

--
Chris

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)