The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display,
in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

Jan

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nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article <1q0qjts.19t0jsw1r3hue9N%[email protected]>, J. J.
Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display,
in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can
then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

Jan

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In article <1q0qjts.19t0jsw1r3hue9N%[email protected]>, J. J.
Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display,
in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can
then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock
screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

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On 1 Nov 2022, Joerg Lorenz wrote
(in article <tjragp$a7ds$[email protected]>):

Am 01.11.22 um 12:40 schrieb J. J. Lodder:

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article<1q0qjts.19t0jsw1r3hue9N%[email protected]>, J. J.
Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display, in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can
then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

This is iPad OS 16.1 and not iOS 16.1

Should also note that even on the phone you can’t get them back to as slim
as they were before. I seriously dislike it.

Cheers,
Ian

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Am 01.11.22 um 12:40 schrieb J. J. Lodder:

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article <1q0qjts.19t0jsw1r3hue9N%[email protected]>, J. J.
Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display,
in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can
then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock
screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

This is iPad OS 16.1 and not iOS 16.1

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Am 01.11.22 um 15:46 schrieb Ian McCall:

On 1 Nov 2022, Joerg Lorenz wrote
(in article <tjragp$a7ds$[email protected]>):

Am 01.11.22 um 12:40 schrieb J. J. Lodder:

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article<1q0qjts.19t0jsw1r3hue9N%[email protected]>, J. J.
Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display, >>>>> in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can
then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock >>>> screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

This is iPad OS 16.1 and not iOS 16.1

Should also note that even on the phone you can’t get them back to as slim as they were before. I seriously dislike it.

I was able to change it to the old style on my iPhone.
But I agree: It is a toy feature and has absolutely no added value.

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In article <tjrf95$aa64$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can >>>> then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock >>>> screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

This is iPad OS 16.1 and not iOS 16.1

Should also note that even on the phone you can�t get them back to as slim as they were before. I seriously dislike it.

I was able to change it to the old style on my iPhone.
But I agree: It is a toy feature and has absolutely no added value.

rubbish. multiple custom lock screens are one of the most useful
features of ios 16 and a major reason to upgrade. already many apps are
adding widget support.

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In article <tjrmap$qs2h$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm obviously missing something but what is the advantage of multiple
lock screens?

the same reason why there are different watch faces and desktop
wallpapers: variety and/or different purposes.

each lock screen can have a different background photo and a mix of
widgets specific for whatever you're currently doing. for example, you
could have weather and activity for when you're exercising, another
with work related info (such as your next appointment) for when you're supposedly working. a few of the wallpapers are dynamic, such as the
weather which changes with the weather.also, background photos can be auto-rotated for variety. or it can be boring with just one lock
screen.

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On 01/11/2022 16:20, nospam wrote:

In article <tjrf95$aa64$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

from the lock screen, tap & hold, then tap customize, where you can >>>>>> then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create multiple lock >>>>>> screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

This is iPad OS 16.1 and not iOS 16.1

Should also note that even on the phone you can¹t get them back to as slim >>> as they were before. I seriously dislike it.

I was able to change it to the old style on my iPhone.
But I agree: It is a toy feature and has absolutely no added value.

rubbish. multiple custom lock screens are one of the most useful
features of ios 16 and a major reason to upgrade. already many apps are adding widget support.

I'm obviously missing something but what is the advantage of multiple
lock screens?

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In article <[email protected]>, Bruce
Horrocks <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm obviously missing something but what is the advantage of multiple
lock screens?

It's Apple finally catching-up with the "profiles" that Nokia offered
20-odd years ago. So you can have a work lock-screen (with work related widgets) and a home lock-screen (with home-related widgets), for example.

conceptually, but that's where it ends. there's much more to what apple
has done.

Perhaps in another 20 years they'll offer an "outdoor mode" and I'll
finally be able to hear the phone ring when it's in a coat pocket!

apple watch will tap your wrist, and depending on the watch and
carrier, the phone can be at home.

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On 01/11/2022 17:51, Graeme Wall wrote:

On 01/11/2022 16:20, nospam wrote:

In article <tjrf95$aa64$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

from the lock screen, tap &  hold, then tap customize, where you can >>>>>>> then change the font, colour, add widgets and even create
multiple lock
screens (which can auto-rotate based on focus modes).

Yes. It works on the iPhone, but not on the iPad,

This is iPad OS 16.1 and not iOS 16.1

Should also note that even on the phone you can¹t get them back to
as slim
as they were before. I seriously dislike it.

I was able to change it to the old style on my iPhone.
But I agree: It is a toy feature and has absolutely no added value.

rubbish. multiple custom lock screens are one of the most useful
features of ios 16 and a major reason to upgrade. already many apps are
adding widget support.

I'm obviously missing something but what is the advantage of multiple
lock screens?

It's Apple finally catching-up with the "profiles" that Nokia offered
20-odd years ago. So you can have a work lock-screen (with work related widgets) and a home lock-screen (with home-related widgets), for example.

Perhaps in another 20 years they'll offer an "outdoor mode" and I'll
finally be able to hear the phone ring when it's in a coat pocket!

--
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Surrey, England

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On 01/11/2022 18:14, nospam wrote:

In article <tjrmap$qs2h$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm obviously missing something but what is the advantage of multiple
lock screens?

the same reason why there are different watch faces and desktop
wallpapers: variety and/or different purposes.

each lock screen can have a different background photo and a mix of
widgets specific for whatever you're currently doing. for example, you
could have weather and activity for when you're exercising, another
with work related info (such as your next appointment) for when you're supposedly working. a few of the wallpapers are dynamic, such as the
weather which changes with the weather.also, background photos can be auto-rotated for variety. or it can be boring with just one lock
screen.

How does the phone know which I want until I go past the lock screen?
And which widgets are available from the lock screen? I don't get those
till I unlock the phone.

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On 01/11/2022 19:31, nospam wrote:

In article <tjrqp4$r8du$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

How does the phone know which I want until I go past the lock screen?

via the new secret iphone mind meld.

another way is by setting up focus modes for an appropriate lock
screen, such as work, sleep, etc.

And which widgets are available from the lock screen?

apple has the usual bunch, including weather, calendar, reminders,
world clock, fitness, battery (including watch & airpods), news, etc.

Those I get by swiping left off the app screen, or whtever it is called.

third party app developers have many more.

I don't get those
till I unlock the phone.

it's set up beforehand.

Can't work out how, as soon as I try to do something the phone unlocks.

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In article <tjrqp4$r8du$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

How does the phone know which I want until I go past the lock screen?

via the new secret iphone mind meld.

another way is by setting up focus modes for an appropriate lock
screen, such as work, sleep, etc.

And which widgets are available from the lock screen?

apple has the usual bunch, including weather, calendar, reminders,
world clock, fitness, battery (including watch & airpods), news, etc.

third party app developers have many more.

I don't get those
till I unlock the phone.

it's set up beforehand.

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In article <tjru41$rgcu$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

And which widgets are available from the lock screen?

apple has the usual bunch, including weather, calendar, reminders,
world clock, fitness, battery (including watch & airpods), news, etc.

Those I get by swiping left off the app screen, or whtever it is called.

yep, and now they can be on the lock screen.

it's *really* useful with the iphone 14 pro and always-on display.

I don't get those till I unlock the phone.

it's set up beforehand.

Can't work out how, as soon as I try to do something the phone unlocks.

set it up after unlocking, to be ready next time it's locked.

<https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-16-lock-screen/>

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Am 01.11.22 um 17:20 schrieb nospam:

In article <tjrf95$aa64$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

I was able to change it to the old style on my iPhone.
But I agree: It is a toy feature and has absolutely no added value.

rubbish. multiple custom lock screens are one of the most useful
features of ios 16 and a major reason to upgrade. already many apps are adding widget support.

For bored kids like *you*.

I'm working with my digital devices and not fiddling around and playing.
If *you* like it, it is ok for me.

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On 01/11/2022 20:18, nospam wrote:

In article <tjru41$rgcu$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

And which widgets are available from the lock screen?

apple has the usual bunch, including weather, calendar, reminders,
world clock, fitness, battery (including watch & airpods), news, etc.

Those I get by swiping left off the app screen, or whtever it is called.

yep, and now they can be on the lock screen.

it's *really* useful with the iphone 14 pro and always-on display.

I don't get those till I unlock the phone.

it's set up beforehand.

Can't work out how, as soon as I try to do something the phone unlocks.

set it up after unlocking, to be ready next time it's locked.

<https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-16-lock-screen/>

OK, swiped down from the Home screen, get the Lock screen, long press on
the display, nothing happens! Though again I can swipe sideways to get
the widgets. Perhaps it doesn't work on an SE.

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Am 01.11.22 um 19:33 schrieb nospam:

In article <[email protected]>, Bruce Horrocks <[email protected]> wrote:

Perhaps in another 20 years they'll offer an "outdoor mode" and I'll
finally be able to hear the phone ring when it's in a coat pocket!

apple watch will tap your wrist, and depending on the watch and
carrier, the phone can be at home.

Only working drones are wearing such ugly (tracking) toys.
*SCNR*

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Am 01.11.22 um 19:14 schrieb nospam:

In article <tjrmap$qs2h$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm obviously missing something but what is the advantage of multiple
lock screens?

the same reason why there are different watch faces and desktop
wallpapers: variety and/or different purposes.

Toys. I just added battery charging level to the lock screen because
Apple is incapable of reintroducing it on the iPhone 11's status bar.

Apple is trying to correct severe mistakes made in the past.

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In article <tjs50s$rveu$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

OK, swiped down from the Home screen, get the Lock screen, long press on
the display, nothing happens! Though again I can swipe sideways to get
the widgets. Perhaps it doesn't work on an SE.

are you running ios 16?

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that
you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

alternately, go to settings>wallpaper.

<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/personalize-your-iphone-lock-scr een-iph4d0e6c351/ios>

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In article <tjs2m1$9vem$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

Toys. I just added battery charging level to the lock screen because
Apple is incapable of reintroducing it on the iPhone 11's status bar.

not only are they capable, but they actually did add it back.

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Am 02.11.22 um 00:10 schrieb nospam:

In article <tjs2m1$9vem$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

Toys. I just added battery charging level to the lock screen because
Apple is incapable of reintroducing it on the iPhone 11's status bar.

not only are they capable, but they actually did add it back.

Unreadable without magnifying glass for people over 25 and therefore
useless.

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On 01/11/2022 23:10, nospam wrote:

In article <tjs50s$rveu$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

OK, swiped down from the Home screen, get the Lock screen, long press on
the display, nothing happens! Though again I can swipe sideways to get
the widgets. Perhaps it doesn't work on an SE.

are you running ios 16?

Yes

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that
you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

alternately, go to settings>wallpaper.

<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/personalize-your-iphone-lock-scr een-iph4d0e6c351/ios>

That works

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On 1 Nov 2022 at 11:04:35 GMT, "J. J. Lodder" <J. J. Lodder> wrote:

The new iOS 16 has changed and very fat digits for the clock display,
in an ugly font.

Is there a way to slim them down?
(preferably to the old font)

Jan

Personally, and at the risk of getting into trouble, I rather like the new
Lock Screen.

Chacun à son goût...

John.
--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

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In article <tjt92r$135ap$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that
you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

it should stay awake long enough to touch&hold the display after
unlocking.

alternately, go to settings>wallpaper.

<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/personalize-your-iphone-lock-scr een-iph4d0e6c351/ios>

That works

ok.

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In article <tjsgo2$apm1$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
wrote:

Toys. I just added battery charging level to the lock screen because
Apple is incapable of reintroducing it on the iPhone 11's status bar.

not only are they capable, but they actually did add it back.

Unreadable without magnifying glass for people over 25 and therefore
useless.

first you say they're incapable of doing it, then you say they can do
it, but did a poor job. at least try to be consistent.

not that it matters since either way, it's wrong. the indicator is easy
to read.

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On 02/11/2022 11:06, nospam wrote:

In article <tjt92r$135ap$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that
you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

it should stay awake long enough to touch&hold the display after
unlocking.

Stick a finger on it and nothing happens till the display times out.



--
Graeme Wall
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In article <tjtnge$162tu$[email protected]>,
Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that >>>> you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

it should stay awake long enough to touch&hold the display after
unlocking.

Stick a finger on it and nothing happens till the display times out.

FWIW I seem to be able do get it working on my iPhone 11 but I'm not
going to make any changes just yet. Better the devil you know ;)

he has an iphone se with touch id, which has different dynamics than
face id.

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In article <tjtk07$15hiq$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that
you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

it should stay awake long enough to touch&hold the display after
unlocking.

Stick a finger on it and nothing happens till the display times out.

there's a small lock icon at the top, which should show that it was
just unlocked, although the timing to prevent it from going to the home
screen is sometimes tricky.

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On 2022-11-02, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote:

On 02/11/2022 11:06, nospam wrote:

In article <tjt92r$135ap$[email protected]>, Graeme Wall
<[email protected]> wrote:

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that
you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

it should stay awake long enough to touch&hold the display after
unlocking.

Stick a finger on it and nothing happens till the display times out.

FWIW I seem to be able do get it working on my iPhone 11 but I'm not
going to make any changes just yet. Better the devil you know ;)

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Cheers, Alan

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On 2022-11-02, nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article <tjtnge$162tu$[email protected]>,
Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

if so, unlock via touch id but *don't* press the home button, so that >> >>>> you remain on the lock screen, then touch&hold.

Nothing happens, the phone just shuts down again.

it should stay awake long enough to touch&hold the display after
unlocking.

Stick a finger on it and nothing happens till the display times out.

FWIW I seem to be able do get it working on my iPhone 11 but I'm not
going to make any changes just yet. Better the devil you know ;)

he has an iphone se with touch id, which has different dynamics than
face id.

Sorry, I missed that!!!

--
Cheers, Alan

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