• iPhone11 tips for a new user?

    From T i m@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 15:39:32 2022
    Hi all,

    With help / advice from the good folk here I now have mums replacement
    phone up and running and think I have worked my way around most of it
    since restoring her iPhone5S to it (like email password).

    I have found and will print out a couple of pages of button push combos
    for her and the rest should be reasonably familiar to her.

    One thing though, because she's a bit mutton I've set the ringer volume
    on max (to start with) but when I ring the phone it starts off loud then
    goes much quieter?

    I've also noted it wakes up when picked up (good thing) but I was wonder
    what the panel think about enabling the face recognition for unlock? I
    mean, does it generally work reliably?

    Any other tips, ticks or 'good' settings I could set / check would be appreciated.

    Cheers, T i m

    p.s. I seem to be having a right issue with posting messages from TB to
    ES. Often hanging on send or coming up with with another 'can't send'
    type message. Save as draft and re-open > send sometimes works. Closing
    TB, re opening sending draft sometimes works, sometimes the message
    disappears. ;-(

    I have googled to /temp folder containing more than 999999 messages or
    some such but I can't find the /temp folder (W10)?

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Oct 9 15:57:46 2022
    On 09/10/2022 15:54, nospam wrote:
    In article <thumf4$gt7h$[email protected]>, T i m <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I've also noted it wakes up when picked up (good thing) but I was wonder
    what the panel think about enabling the face recognition for unlock? I
    mean, does it generally work reliably?

    very reliably.

    OK, thanks. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Oct 9 14:58:53 2022
    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
    In article <thumf4$gt7h$[email protected]>, T i m <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I've also noted it wakes up when picked up (good thing) but I was wonder
    what the panel think about enabling the face recognition for unlock? I
    mean, does it generally work reliably?

    very reliably.

    +1

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to T i m on Sun Oct 9 14:57:38 2022
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi all,

    With help / advice from the good folk here I now have mums replacement
    phone up and running and think I have worked my way around most of it
    since restoring her iPhone5S to it (like email password).

    I have found and will print out a couple of pages of button push combos
    for her and the rest should be reasonably familiar to her.

    One thing though, because she's a bit mutton I've set the ringer volume
    on max (to start with) but when I ring the phone it starts off loud then
    goes much quieter?

    I've also noted it wakes up when picked up (good thing) but I was wonder
    what the panel think about enabling the face recognition for unlock? I
    mean, does it generally work reliably?

    Any other tips, ticks or 'good' settings I could set / check would be appreciated.

    Cheers, T i m

    p.s. I seem to be having a right issue with posting messages from TB to
    ES. Often hanging on send or coming up with with another 'can't send'
    type message. Save as draft and re-open > send sometimes works. Closing
    TB, re opening sending draft sometimes works, sometimes the message disappears. ;-(

    I have googled to /temp folder containing more than 999999 messages or
    some such but I can't find the /temp folder (W10)?

    I read the latest T’bird has some bugs so best avoided. I don’t use it anyway so not my problem!

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 10:54:27 2022
    In article <thumf4$gt7h$[email protected]>, T i m <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I've also noted it wakes up when picked up (good thing) but I was wonder
    what the panel think about enabling the face recognition for unlock? I
    mean, does it generally work reliably?

    very reliably.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 17:04:12 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 16:57 schrieb Alan B:
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    I have googled to /temp folder containing more than 999999 messages or
    some such but I can't find the /temp folder (W10)?

    I read the latest T’bird has some bugs so best avoided. I don’t use it anyway so not my problem!

    ???
    TB on an iPhone?

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Oct 9 16:15:19 2022
    On 09/10/2022 15:57, Alan B wrote:
    <snip>

    I read the latest T’bird has some bugs so best avoided.

    I think lots of programs (and OS's!) have bugs and the only hope is that
    they get round to fixing them. ;-)


    I have used Netscape Communicator > TB for years and this is probably
    the first time I've had any issues?

    I don’t use it
    anyway so not my problem!

    No, indeed. ;-)

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or summat?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 17:14:53 2022
    On 09/10/2022 16:37, nospam wrote:

    Still on the new user thing ...

    Mum has a wallet type case on her iPhone5S that has a little flap round
    catch an even though she's had it for a while, she doesn't seem to have
    damaged it.

    I was thinking of getting her something similar but aware the more
    modern phones often give notifications even when the phone is 'idle' so
    maybe a one of the 'bumper cases' would be better?

    I bought a cheap wallet type case from the market but the carrier that
    holds the phone wouldn't offer any screen protection if it was dropped
    face down and the front cover flapped open?

    So has anyone discovered a really good combo case for the iPhone11 that
    offers good drop protection and easy access please?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Oct 9 11:37:39 2022
    In article <thunh2$h2a3$[email protected]>,
    Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:


    I read the latest T�bird has some bugs so best avoided.

    thunderbird has more bugs than features, and they refuse to fix them.

    I don�t use it
    anyway so not my problem!

    unfortunately, its problems affects others.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 18:23:18 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 17:37 schrieb nospam:
    In article <thunh2$h2a3$[email protected]>,
    Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:


    I read the latest T¹bird has some bugs so best avoided.

    thunderbird has more bugs than features, and they refuse to fix them.

    I don¹t use it
    anyway so not my problem!

    unfortunately, its problems affects others.

    False and you try again to spread *FUD*. Do not write about things you
    do not understand. You want to pretend to be also an "expert" on TB?

    Current versions have some minor bugs like every software. Apple Mail is
    not an option/alternative because it has just kindergarten level.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Oct 9 17:48:37 2022
    On 09/10/2022 17:23, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    <snip>

    Current versions have some minor bugs like every software. Apple Mail is
    not an option/alternative because it has just kindergarten level.

    ;-)

    I have no problem with the email side of TB (over several / different
    account types) it's just my use of the newsserver component on Eternal September that is highly intermittent.

    Like, earlier I tried all the things I normally do (save as draft, re
    open > send, close TB and re-open etc) and nothing worked, then the
    message vanished. ;-(

    However, the last batch of message have sent ok?

    What happens when it goes wrong is I first get this:

    https://ibb.co/5xnFBRh

    And then after a delay (or if I cancel and try again) I get this:

    https://ibb.co/nLB63BP

    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe
    had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on
    TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to T i m on Sun Oct 9 16:51:28 2022
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 17:23, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    <snip>

    Current versions have some minor bugs like every software. Apple Mail is
    not an option/alternative because it has just kindergarten level.

    ;-)

    I have no problem with the email side of TB (over several / different
    account types) it's just my use of the newsserver component on Eternal September that is highly intermittent.

    Like, earlier I tried all the things I normally do (save as draft, re
    open > send, close TB and re-open etc) and nothing worked, then the
    message vanished. ;-(

    However, the last batch of message have sent ok?

    What happens when it goes wrong is I first get this:

    https://ibb.co/5xnFBRh

    And then after a delay (or if I cancel and try again) I get this:

    https://ibb.co/nLB63BP

    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe
    had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on
    TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 18:56:13 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 18:48 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 17:23, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    <snip>

    Current versions have some minor bugs like every software. Apple Mail is
    not an option/alternative because it has just kindergarten level.

    ;-)

    I have no problem with the email side of TB (over several / different
    account types) it's just my use of the newsserver component on Eternal September that is highly intermittent.

    I use this server as well. No issues so far. The server of
    Eternal-September had some difficulties a couple of weeks ago.

    Like, earlier I tried all the things I normally do (save as draft, re
    open > send, close TB and re-open etc) and nothing worked, then the
    message vanished. ;-(

    I cannot comment.

    However, the last batch of message have sent ok?

    What happens when it goes wrong is I first get this:

    https://ibb.co/5xnFBRh

    And then after a delay (or if I cancel and try again) I get this:

    https://ibb.co/nLB63BP

    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe
    had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on
    TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    Look into my header. For english-speaking groups I use Solani. It is free.

    TB is the only Mail-/Usenet-Client that works on all destop platforms
    i.e. Windows, Mac and Linux.

    Joerg

    --
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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 18:57:37 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Alan B:
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe
    had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on
    TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    This is an anonymous Troll server. A lot of regulars filter messages
    from aioe.org.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Oct 9 18:18:48 2022
    On 09/10/2022 17:51, Alan B wrote:
    <snip>
    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe
    had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on
    TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    Thanks Alan

    At least I can see if it's my TB having issues posting or something
    else, even if no one reads my posts. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Oct 9 18:15:35 2022
    On 09/10/2022 17:57, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Alan B:
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe
    had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on >>> TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    This is an anonymous Troll server. A lot of regulars filter messages
    from aioe.org.

    Oh, so what was the one that was about £10/year or so?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to TimS on Sun Oct 9 18:57:32 2022
    On 09/10/2022 18:41, TimS wrote:
    On 09 Oct 2022 at 16:15:19 BST, T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or summat?

    €10/year. It's news.individual.net, run by the German Academic Network (DFN)
    people, at the Berlin Free University. See www.individual.net.


    Ah, that's the badger, thanks Tim. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From TimS@21:1/5 to T i m on Sun Oct 9 17:41:46 2022
    On 09 Oct 2022 at 16:15:19 BST, T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or summat?

    €10/year. It's news.individual.net, run by the German Academic Network (DFN) people, at the Berlin Free University. See www.individual.net.

    --
    Tim

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 13:28:29 2022
    In article <thushm$36rc$[email protected]>, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Current versions have some minor bugs like every software.

    thunderbird is noncompliant with the rfcs and they refuse to fix it.

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  • From Graeme Wall@21:1/5 to T i m on Sun Oct 9 19:50:11 2022
    On 09/10/2022 16:15, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 15:57, Alan B wrote:
    <snip>

    I read the latest T’bird has some bugs so best avoided.

    I think lots of programs (and OS's!) have bugs and the only hope is that
    they get round to fixing them. ;-)


    I have used Netscape Communicator > TB for years and this is probably
    the first time I've had any issues?

    I don’t use it
    anyway so not my problem!

    No, indeed. ;-)

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or summat?

    Cheers, T i m


    The ES/TB bug has been around for a long time, I just move on to the
    next post in the thread and then try resending, usually works. The pain
    is remembering to close two sets of error messages first.

    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Graeme Wall on Sun Oct 9 19:56:26 2022
    On 09/10/2022 19:50, Graeme Wall wrote:
    <snip>

    The ES/TB bug has been around for a long time, I just move on to the
    next post in the thread and then try resending, usually works.

    I've also noticed it can be quite slow getting the new messages Graham
    so I'll be happy to pay ~£10/pa to avoid all that. ;-)

    The pain
    is remembering to close two sets of error messages first.

    Yeah. The pain for me is already using TB over Agent but I couldn't get
    the latest version to work like my old one nor be bothered move it all
    across.

    I'm pleased that it's a bug rather than something to do with my setup so
    thanks for the feedback. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Graeme Wall@21:1/5 to T i m on Sun Oct 9 19:52:33 2022
    On 09/10/2022 19:29, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 18:41, TimS wrote:
    On 09 Oct 2022 at 16:15:19 BST, T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or summat? >>
    €10/year. It's news.individual.net, run by the German Academic Network
    (DFN)
    people, at the Berlin Free University. See www.individual.net.

    Testing testing 1234. ;-)


    Still getting through


    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to TimS on Sun Oct 9 19:29:19 2022
    On 09/10/2022 18:41, TimS wrote:
    On 09 Oct 2022 at 16:15:19 BST, T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or summat?

    €10/year. It's news.individual.net, run by the German Academic Network (DFN)
    people, at the Berlin Free University. See www.individual.net.

    Testing testing 1234. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Graeme Wall on Sun Oct 9 20:55:14 2022
    On 09/10/2022 19:52, Graeme Wall wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 19:29, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 18:41, TimS wrote:
    On 09 Oct 2022 at 16:15:19 BST, T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

    What is the other Newserver people use over ES, it's £10/year or
    summat?

    €10/year. It's news.individual.net, run by the German Academic
    Network (DFN)
    people, at the Berlin Free University. See www.individual.net.

    Testing testing 1234. ;-)


    Still getting through


    Cool. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 23:06:55 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 19:15 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 17:57, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Alan B:
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe >>>> had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on >>>> TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    This is an anonymous Troll server. A lot of regulars filter messages
    from aioe.org.

    Oh, so what was the one that was about £10/year or so?

    Cheers, T i m

    That would be individual.net.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Oct 9 22:52:07 2022
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 19:15 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 17:57, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Alan B:
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe >>>>> had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on >>>>> TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    This is an anonymous Troll server. A lot of regulars filter messages
    from aioe.org.

    Oh, so what was the one that was about £10/year or so?

    Cheers, T i m

    That would be individual.net.

    Yeah, TimS beat you to it. ;-)

    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Oct 9 22:58:12 2022
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 19:15 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 17:57, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Alan B:
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    So I was wondering if there was another low cost newsserver that maybe >>>>> had a free trial so I could see if it was the server or TB (I'm going on >>>>> TB ATM as I think the first issue is local)?

    <http://www.aioe.org>

    This is an anonymous Troll server. A lot of regulars filter messages
    from aioe.org.

    Oh, so what was the one that was about £10/year or so?

    Cheers, T i m

    That would be individual.net.

    He's signed up and now using Individual net - but evidently using
    Microsoft Windows computer.

    No wonder he's having problems posting and receiving in an Apple Mac
    group! ;-)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Sun Oct 9 23:08:50 2022
    On 09/10/2022 22:58, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    He's signed up and now using Individual net

    I am indeed. ;-)

    - but evidently using
    Microsoft Windows computer.

    I am indeed. One I built because I like to do such things. ;-)

    No wonder he's having problems posting and receiving in an Apple Mac
    group! ;-)

    And all the other newsgroups of course ... ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to T i m on Sun Oct 9 23:17:44 2022
    On 09/10/2022 23:08, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 22:58, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    He's signed up and now using Individual net

    I am indeed. ;-)

    - but evidently using Microsoft Windows computer.

    I am indeed. One I built because I like to do such things. ;-)

    Hi Tim :-D

    I well remember doing such things! Congratulations.

    No wonder he's having problems posting and receiving in an Apple Mac
    group! ;-)

    And all the other newsgroups of course ... ;-)

    Indeed! :-D

    Cheers, T i m

    I've followed your posts with much interest. I also use Thunderbird and
    have also been noticing all kinds of 'misbehaviour with it recently;
    you are not the only one who has been effected. Really irritating at
    times.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 07:58:19 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(


    Did you consider that this could be the source of more than half of your troubles?

    X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 221009-4, 9/10/2022), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

    Nobody seriously believes "clean" to be clean. Just *snakeoil* with a
    huge potential for collateral damages.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 07:54:55 2022
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    That would be individual.net.

    Yeah, TimS beat you to it. ;-)

    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(

    How did you set the polling?
    Usenet is not really a high frequency-medium ...

    Cheers, T i m

    Regards, Joerg

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Mon Oct 10 07:59:25 2022
    On 10/10/2022 06:54, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    That would be individual.net.

    Yeah, TimS beat you to it. ;-)

    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(

    How did you set the polling?

    Erm, 'set' ?

    Usenet is not really a high frequency-medium ...

    Ok.

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Mon Oct 10 08:02:07 2022
    On 10/10/2022 06:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(


    Did you consider that this could be the source of more than half of your troubles?

    X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 221009-4, 9/10/2022), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

    Considered? Yes, Briefly, but as I've been using it for years and it
    doesn't generally cause any problems it's not something that I think is
    causing the problem in this case, given it's so intermittent etc.

    Nobody seriously believes "clean" to be clean. Just *snakeoil* with a
    huge potential for collateral damages.

    OK ... ?

    Can you recommend an alternative?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to T i m on Mon Oct 10 07:06:07 2022
    T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 10/10/2022 06:54, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    That would be individual.net.

    Yeah, TimS beat you to it. ;-)

    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(

    How did you set the polling?

    Erm, 'set' ?

    I haven’t used Tbird for ages but there is a setting for how long to wait until it automatically looks for new messages on the server for the
    subscribed groups ( + all groups list update).

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Oct 10 08:09:47 2022
    On 09/10/2022 23:17, David Brooks wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 23:08, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 22:58, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    He's signed up and now using Individual net

    I am indeed. ;-)

    - but evidently using Microsoft Windows computer.

    I am indeed. One I built because I like to do such things. ;-)

    Hi Tim :-D

    I well remember doing such things! Congratulations.

    No wonder he's having problems posting and receiving in an Apple Mac
    group! ;-)

    And all the other newsgroups of course ... ;-)

    Indeed! :-D

    Cheers, T i m

    I've followed your posts with much interest.

    Thanks.

    I also use Thunderbird and
    have also been noticing all kinds of 'misbehaviour with it recently;

    Specifically with NG access or in general?

    you are not the only one who has been effected.

    No, as I found when I first experienced / Googled the problem. One of
    the most common solutions was that a tmp folder hits an upper limit of
    files and needs manual purging but I think that was causing a complete
    failure not a random one? I couldn't even find the folder specified so
    .. ;-(

    Really irritating at
    times.

    Yes, especially so when it has been both fast and rock solid X platform
    (I have used it on OSX but mostly Windows and Linux).

    So far <touching wood> it hasn't had an issue sending though
    individual.net but I have seen a lack response when say checking for new messages once. This typically seems to happen if I've left TB in the
    background for a while then gone back to it?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to T i m on Mon Oct 10 13:10:37 2022
    On 10/10/2022 08:09, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 23:17, David Brooks wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 23:08, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 22:58, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    He's signed up and now using Individual net

    I am indeed. ;-)

    - but evidently using Microsoft Windows computer.

    I am indeed. One I built because I like to do such things. ;-)

    Hi Tim :-D

    I well remember doing such things! Congratulations.

    No wonder he's having problems posting and receiving in an Apple Mac
    group! ;-)

    And all the other newsgroups of course ... ;-)

    Indeed! :-D

    Cheers, T i m

    I've followed your posts with much interest.

    Thanks.

    YW 🙂 May I ask why you chose to post in this particular newsgroup?

    I also use Thunderbird and have also been noticing all kinds of
    'misbehaviour with it recently;

    Specifically with NG access or in general?

    On this iMac, I use Thunderbird *only* for Usenet

    you are not the only one who has been effected.

    No, as I found when I first experienced / Googled the problem. One of
    the most common solutions was that a tmp folder hits an upper limit of
    files and needs manual purging but I think that was causing a complete failure not a random one? I couldn't even find the folder specified so
    .. ;-(

    Hopefully, someone responsible for maintenance will notice and fix the problem(s).

    Really irritating at times.

    Yes, especially so when it has been both fast and rock solid X platform
    (I have used it on OSX but mostly Windows and Linux).

    I've used it for years too, so find current antics very disappointing.

    So far <touching wood> it hasn't had an issue sending though
    individual.net but I have seen a lack response when say checking for new messages once. This typically seems to happen if I've left TB in the background for a while then gone back to it?

    That's good to hear. I've been wondering if BlockNews has been
    responsible for, especially, a failure to SEND messages. They invariable
    post if I send again.

    !!!!
    THIS message failed to send and crashed Thunderbird!

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to T i m on Mon Oct 10 13:09:01 2022
    On 10/10/2022 08:09, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 23:17, David Brooks wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 23:08, T i m wrote:
    On 09/10/2022 22:58, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    He's signed up and now using Individual net

    I am indeed. ;-)

    - but evidently using Microsoft Windows computer.

    I am indeed. One I built because I like to do such things. ;-)

    Hi Tim :-D

    I well remember doing such things! Congratulations.

    No wonder he's having problems posting and receiving in an Apple Mac
    group! ;-)

    And all the other newsgroups of course ... ;-)

    Indeed! :-D

    Cheers, T i m

    I've followed your posts with much interest.

    Thanks.
    YW 🙂 May I ask why you chose to post in this particular newsgroup?
    I also use Thunderbird and have also been noticing all kinds of
    'misbehaviour with it recently;

    Specifically with NG access or in general?
    On this iMac, I use Thunderbird *only* for Usenet
    you are not the only one who has been effected.

    No, as I found when I first experienced / Googled the problem. One of
    the most common solutions was that a tmp folder hits an upper limit of
    files and needs manual purging but I think that was causing a complete failure not a random one? I couldn't even find the folder specified so
    .. ;-(
    Hopefully, someone responsible for maintenance will notice and fix the problem(s).
    Really irritating at times.
    Yes, especially so when it has been both fast and rock solid X platform
    (I have used it on OSX but mostly Windows and Linux).

    I've used it for years too, so find the current antics very disappointing.

    So far <touching wood> it hasn't had an issue sending though
    individual.net but I have seen a lack response when say checking for new messages once. This typically seems to happen if I've left TB in the background for a while then gone back to it?
    That's good to hear. I've been wondering if BlockNews has been
    responsible for, especially, a failure to SEND messages. They invariable
    post if I send again.

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Oct 10 14:29:12 2022
    On 10/10/2022 13:09, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>
    I've followed your posts with much interest.

    Thanks.
    YW 🙂  May I ask why you chose to post in this particular newsgroup?

    Erm, because I was originally asking about an iPhone 11 so I thought
    that would be pertinent? Then there was a bit of thread drift ... ;-)

    <snip>

    Specifically with NG access or in general?
    On this iMac, I use Thunderbird *only* for Usenet

    Cheers.

    you are not the only one who has been effected.

    No, as I found when I first experienced / Googled the problem. One of
    the most common solutions was that a tmp folder hits an upper limit of files and needs manual purging but I think that was causing a complete failure not a random one? I couldn't even find the folder specified so
    .. ;-(

    Hopefully, someone responsible for maintenance will notice and fix the problem(s).

    It has been suggested elsewhere that Mozilla can be somewhat lacking in
    that area? ;-(

    Really irritating at times.
    Yes, especially so when it has been both fast and rock solid X platform
    (I have used it on OSX but mostly Windows and Linux).

    I've used it for years too, so find the current antics very disappointing.

    I don't know if it was you or someone else here who suggested it but
    flicking between newsgroups seems to wake up any hang-ups, certainly re
    reading the group.

    So far <touching wood> it hasn't had an issue sending though individual.net but I have seen a lack response when say checking for new messages once. This typically seems to happen if I've left TB in the background for a while then gone back to it?

    That's good to hear. I've been wondering if BlockNews has been
    responsible for, especially, a failure to SEND messages. They invariable
    post if I send again.

    It was strange when I was using ES. It could let me post several
    messages on the trot and then (randomly so far) wouldn't let me post at
    all, even after closing TB and leaving it closed for a while etc.

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Oct 10 14:31:00 2022
    On 10/10/2022 13:10, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    !!!!
    THIS message failed to send and crashed Thunderbird!

    I think it sent but in a basic / unformatted way (I replied to it). ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 16:41:23 2022
    Am 10.10.22 um 08:59 schrieb T i m:
    On 10/10/2022 06:54, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    That would be individual.net.

    Yeah, TimS beat you to it. ;-)

    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(

    How did you set the polling?

    Erm, 'set' ?

    Setting for the polling under account settings for your news server. I
    tested after your posting. Polling works perfectly when left open alone.
    There were quite a lot of news postings after a while. On Solani as well
    as on Eternal-September.

    The polling is set to happen here every 5 minutes and that is exactly
    what happens.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 16:45:11 2022
    Am 10.10.22 um 09:02 schrieb T i m:
    On 10/10/2022 06:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems?

    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be
    able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come
    in instantly? ;-(


    Did you consider that this could be the source of more than half of your
    troubles?

    X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 221009-4, 9/10/2022), Outbound message
    X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

    Considered? Yes, Briefly, but as I've been using it for years and it
    doesn't generally cause any problems it's not something that I think is causing the problem in this case, given it's so intermittent etc.

    Nobody seriously believes "clean" to be clean. Just *snakeoil* with a
    huge potential for collateral damages.

    OK ... ?

    Can you recommend an alternative?

    If you think an antivirus-protection is necessary use the Defender of
    Windows. Never work as admin with elevated rights.

    That is what I even implement on my Macs and on my Linux-machines. Admin
    only to administer the system.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to T i m on Mon Oct 10 17:04:16 2022
    On 10/10/2022 14:31, T i m wrote:
    On 10/10/2022 13:10, David Brooks wrote:
    <snip>

    !!!!
    THIS message failed to send and crashed Thunderbird!

    I think it sent but in a basic / unformatted way (I replied to it). ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

    The one to which you replied, Tim, was a copy I took from my sent folder
    which I then reposted!

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Wed Oct 12 13:28:13 2022
    On 10/10/2022 15:41, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 10.10.22 um 08:59 schrieb T i m:
    On 10/10/2022 06:54, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 09.10.22 um 23:52 schrieb T i m:
    On 09/10/2022 22:06, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    That would be individual.net.

    Yeah, TimS beat you to it. ;-)

    However, I'm not sure yet if it's completely resolved all the problems? >>>>
    Eg. It seems that if I leave TB open for a while, it doesn't seem to be >>>> able to 'Get (newsgroup) messages'? Close TB and re-open and they come >>>> in instantly? ;-(

    How did you set the polling?

    Erm, 'set' ?

    Setting for the polling under account settings for your news server.

    Ah, thanks, no , not set that, whatever is default.

    I
    tested after your posting.

    Thanks.

    Polling works perfectly when left open alone.

    Ok.

    There were quite a lot of news postings after a while. On Solani as well
    as on Eternal-September.

    The polling is set to happen here every 5 minutes and that is exactly
    what happens.

    I think I might try turning that off and poll manually, that way I might
    be more inclined to note new messages and not miss them as I did here. ;-(

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Wed Oct 12 13:53:17 2022
    On 10/10/2022 15:45, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    <snip>

    If you think an antivirus-protection is necessary

    I have seen too many issues on Windows machines that aren't protected
    and with users who don't seem to restrict where they go on the Web (I
    used to chill in my mates PC shop for a good few years so have seen a
    few bad ones).

    use the Defender of
    Windows.

    I understand that has become more capable over the years?

    Never work as admin with elevated rights.


    That is what I even implement on my Macs and on my Linux-machines. Admin
    only to administer the system.

    I really can't work that way on my own machines (I really don't even
    like it on Linux, 'enjoying' those single user installs where you are
    God all the time).

    Been doing that for a good few years now ... ?

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 12 17:09:45 2022
    Am 12.10.22 um 14:53 schrieb T i m:
    I really can't work that way on my own machines (I really don't even
    like it on Linux, 'enjoying' those single user installs where you are
    God all the time).

    Been doing that for a good few years now ... ?

    Since I left Windows in 2006 in my private domain.

    Working as admin creates a slight Kamikaze-feeling. Even on Linux.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Oct 13 11:10:33 2022
    On 12/10/2022 16:09, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 12.10.22 um 14:53 schrieb T i m:
    I really can't work that way on my own machines (I really don't even
    like it on Linux, 'enjoying' those single user installs where you are
    God all the time).

    Been doing that for a good few years now ... ?

    Since I left Windows in 2006 in my private domain.

    Working as admin creates a slight Kamikaze-feeling. Even on Linux.


    Ignoring the giving of hostiles a raised level of power, I see my system
    to be mine so don't want to constantly have to prove to it, that it's
    me, it's creator, just to be able to manage it.

    To me, running as admin is like using a sharp knife over a blunt one
    where it's generally safer and more efficient (than the blunt one) but
    does require you are careful and know what you are doing. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 18:13:27 2022
    Am 13.10.22 um 12:10 schrieb T i m:
    On 12/10/2022 16:09, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 12.10.22 um 14:53 schrieb T i m:
    I really can't work that way on my own machines (I really don't even
    like it on Linux, 'enjoying' those single user installs where you are
    God all the time).

    Been doing that for a good few years now ... ?

    Since I left Windows in 2006 in my private domain.

    Working as admin creates a slight Kamikaze-feeling. Even on Linux.


    Ignoring the giving of hostiles a raised level of power, I see my system
    to be mine so don't want to constantly have to prove to it, that it's
    me, it's creator, just to be able to manage it.

    Your choice. Your system. Your data. Your disaster recovery.

    Those around me insisting on such a philosophy cannot count on my
    support in case of problems. It is very simple.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Oct 13 18:25:21 2022
    On 13/10/2022 17:13, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 13.10.22 um 12:10 schrieb T i m:
    On 12/10/2022 16:09, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 12.10.22 um 14:53 schrieb T i m:
    I really can't work that way on my own machines (I really don't even
    like it on Linux, 'enjoying' those single user installs where you are
    God all the time).

    Been doing that for a good few years now ... ?

    Since I left Windows in 2006 in my private domain.

    Working as admin creates a slight Kamikaze-feeling. Even on Linux.


    Ignoring the giving of hostiles a raised level of power, I see my system
    to be mine so don't want to constantly have to prove to it, that it's
    me, it's creator, just to be able to manage it.

    Your choice. Your system. Your data. Your disaster recovery.

    Quite. Unfortunately I only have ~40 years working this way but so far
    so good. ;-)

    Those around me insisting on such a philosophy cannot count on my
    support in case of problems. It is very simple.

    Of course, but the only person who is responsible for my systems is me.
    For me, the inconvenience of constantly having to authenticate a raised
    status isn't worth the additional time consumed.

    I use the same mindset when working on my systems as I do doing most
    things, 'Think thrice, measure twice, cut once'.

    This is why I was checking / questioning stuff with you guys re dealing
    with this iPhone11 and Mums data. Anything where I have seen a message
    like 'This could lose your data' I may not proceed on or make very sure
    I (personally) have a backup of the data or it is confirmed the risks
    are very very low.

    I am generally risk aware and typically risk adverse when it comes to my responsibility with other peoples kit / data.

    Cheers, T i m

    p.s. I turned up at a customer site with the intention of re-installing
    their system and confirmed they had a backup of their data. They
    presented me with a stack of CD's, all carefully marked up.

    I put the first CD into the drive and opened it to find a single file comprising a link to the file on their PC.

    I backed up their data myself ...

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