• Re: Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You

    From Snit@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Sun Oct 2 18:55:32 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Oct 2, 2022 at 11:30:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <jNk_K.1924992$[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that
    before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it
    'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    Cannot see where it hurts anything, but seems odd to me.

    *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*

    If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their code,
    they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent detection.

    One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a malware developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus won’t find it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically encrypts
    and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself so it looks different every time it infects someone.

    By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
    antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
    specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware developer
    can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.

    https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/

    It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.

    Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-

    https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x

    The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools from The >>> Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. :-D

    Not sure what your goal is.

    To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my computer.

    A full wipe and reinstall does not show that 100%.

    How do YOU ensure that YOUR computer has not been compromised?

    I take basic precautions and do not spend a lot of time worrying about it.

    How do you know there is not someone breaking into your house when you are
    gone and messing with things? It is not likely... but it COULD happen!

    This is another serious question!

    I just do not spend much time worrying about it.

    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Sun Oct 2 19:30:39 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that
    before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it
    'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*

    If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their code,
    they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent detection.

    One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a malware developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus won’t find
    it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically encrypts
    and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself so it
    looks different every time it infects someone.

    By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
    antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
    specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware developer
    can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.

    https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/

    It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.

    Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-

    https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x

    The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools from The
    Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. :-D

    Not sure what your goal is.

    To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my computer.

    How do YOU ensure that YOUR computer has not been compromised?

    This is another serious question!

    --
    David

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From FromTheRafters@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 2 16:34:24 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    Snit expressed precisely :
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 11:30:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <jNk_K.1924992$[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that
    before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it
    'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    Cannot see where it hurts anything, but seems odd to me.

    *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*

    If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their code,
    they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent detection.

    One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a malware
    developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus won’t find >> it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically encrypts
    and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself so it
    looks different every time it infects someone.

    By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
    antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
    specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware developer
    can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.

    https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/

    It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.

    Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-

    https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x

    The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools from The >>>> Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. :-D

    Not sure what your goal is.

    To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my computer.

    A full wipe and reinstall does not show that 100%.

    Oh no! Now you've done it. :)

    --
    Feed a cold, starve a paranoid delusion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Snit@21:1/5 to FromTheRafters on Sun Oct 2 21:18:54 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Oct 2, 2022 at 1:34:24 PM MST, "FromTheRafters" wrote <thcski$1r010$[email protected]>:

    Snit expressed precisely :
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 11:30:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <jNk_K.1924992$[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that >>>>> before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it >>>>> 'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    Cannot see where it hurts anything, but seems odd to me.

    *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*

    If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their code, >>> they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent detection.

    One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a malware
    developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus won’t find >>> it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically encrypts
    and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself so it >>> looks different every time it infects someone.

    By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
    antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
    specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware developer
    can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.

    https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/

    It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.

    Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-

    https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x

    The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools from The >>>>> Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. :-D

    Not sure what your goal is.

    To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my computer.

    A full wipe and reinstall does not show that 100%.

    Oh no! Now you've done it. :)

    LOL!



    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Sun Oct 2 22:45:03 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 02/10/2022 19:55, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 11:30:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <jNk_K.1924992$[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that
    before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it
    'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    Cannot see where it hurts anything, but seems odd to me.

    Odd, perhaps, but it feels good! :-D

    *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*

    If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their code,
    they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent detection.

    One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a malware
    developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus won’t find >> it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically encrypts
    and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself so it
    looks different every time it infects someone.

    By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
    antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
    specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware developer
    can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.

    https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/

    It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.

    Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-

    https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x

    The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools from The >>>> Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. :-D

    Not sure what your goal is.

    To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my computer.

    A full wipe and reinstall does not show that 100%.

    That's EXACTLY that the police told me way back in 2005!
    I didn't believe them at first! One of the reasons I later bought an
    Apple iMac!

    How do YOU ensure that YOUR computer has not been compromised?

    I take basic precautions and do not spend a lot of time worrying about it.

    I don't WORRY about the malware at all - just the folk who perpetrate it!

    How do you know there is not someone breaking into your house when you are gone and messing with things? It is not likely... but it COULD happen!

    I've told you before, I trust in God to protect me! :-D

    This is another serious question!

    I just do not spend much time worrying about it.

    Me neither! Trying to catch bad guys is fun! 🙂

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Snit@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Sun Oct 2 21:53:06 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Oct 2, 2022 at 2:45:03 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <zDn_K.554740$[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 19:55, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 11:30:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <jNk_K.1924992$[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that >>>>> before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it >>>>> 'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    Cannot see where it hurts anything, but seems odd to me.

    Odd, perhaps, but it feels good! :-D

    And that is what really matters -- are you happy with what you have.

    With me I have not done a fresh install since the Classic Mac days... I
    upgrade in place. Did have one glitch doing so, years ago, but it has been pretty flawless.


    *Can Malware Go Undetected? How Viruses Hide From You*

    If a malware developer knows that an antivirus will identify their code, >>> they still have a few tactics up their sleeves to prevent detection.

    One of them is a trick called “obfuscation.” This is when a malware
    developer cleverly hides their malicious code so an antivirus won’t find >>> it. For example, they may deploy a program that automatically encrypts
    and decrypts the bad parts, or change the code of the virus itself so it >>> looks different every time it infects someone.

    By changing how it looks, it keeps the antivirus on its toes. An
    antivirus is looking for a specific "signature" that identifies a
    specific strain of malware for what it is, so if the malware developer
    can hide this signature, it can dodge an antivirus scan better.

    https://www.makeuseof.com/can-malware-go-undetected-how-viruses-hide-from-you/

    It gave me a little more practice with using Terminal.

    Here's where things stood just before I hit 'return':-

    https://ibb.co/TY5xx8x

    The bonus, of course, is that I no longer have ANY of the tools from The >>>>> Eclectic Light Company installed on my computer. :-D

    Not sure what your goal is.

    To be 100% sure that any malware present was removed from my computer.

    A full wipe and reinstall does not show that 100%.

    That's EXACTLY that the police told me way back in 2005!
    I didn't believe them at first! One of the reasons I later bought an
    Apple iMac!

    You can have your firmware modified... and more. It is not common, but if you want to be 100% sure there is no real way to do that. The system can COME with modified firmware.


    How do YOU ensure that YOUR computer has not been compromised?

    I take basic precautions and do not spend a lot of time worrying about it.

    I don't WORRY about the malware at all - just the folk who perpetrate it!

    I know they are out there... but I also know there are many bad people out there. When I encounter them I deal with it (recently did on a hike when I ran into a bad situation).

    How do you know there is not someone breaking into your house when you are >> gone and messing with things? It is not likely... but it COULD happen!

    I've told you before, I trust in God to protect me! :-D

    Have you never had malware?

    This is another serious question!

    I just do not spend much time worrying about it.

    Me neither! Trying to catch bad guys is fun! 🙂

    As long as you are doing it for fun... but understand that suggesting someone seems like a bad guy based on what is likely a bad download is going to push that developer away from you.

    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Kelly Phillips@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 3 21:33:21 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 19:30:39 +0100, David Brooks <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 02/10/2022 18:47, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <t4k_K.1061970$%[email protected]>:

    On 02/10/2022 17:12, Snit wrote:
    On Oct 2, 2022 at 8:09:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <rQh_K.404938$[email protected]>:

    FOR REVIEW BY FELLOW USENET FOLK

    What are you looking for? Seems you are low on disk space.


    I messed up last Sunday when I wiped and reinstalled, so decided that
    before I repaired matters, I'd run another EtreCheck scan and keep it
    'in the cloud'!

    Why did you wipe and reinstall?

    Practice really. I do so quite regularly.

    Yes, you do, but when I mentioned recently that you do that, you had a
    problem with it. I'm glad you've come around to reality, but what took
    so long?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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