Unexpected message today:-
https://imgur.com/a/4vT4SQE
On 22/09/2022 12:27, HunterBD wrote:
Unexpected message today:-
https://imgur.com/a/4vT4SQE
Here's a MUST READ item!
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/09/25/last-week-on-my-mac-paradoxical-undressing/
//From time to time, developer’s sites are compromised, and one of the common tricks is to subvert them to deliver malicious software to
innocent users who think they’re downloading genuine signed and
notarized software instead. Well, you would, wouldn’t you? Who would
ever suspect that you might download something not entirely wholesome?
Your best defence then is the hope that Gatekeeper’s first run checks
will detect that malware. Stripping the quarantine flag or turning
Gatekeeper checks off altogether disable your Mac’s primary defences,
open the door, and welcome almost anything in, as paradoxically as
stripping off in a blizzard, or turning intruder or smoke alarms off.
The only saving grace for those websites offering such dangerous advice
is that they haven’t been brought up to date for Ventura, although
several pretend to provide specific advice for it. This may in part
explain why Apple is changing Gatekeeper behaviour in macOS 13 so that signatures and notarization are always checked on notarized apps, even
after their first run, when they have got out of quarantine. However, I suspect that those crazy enough to turn Gatekeeper off altogether may
still get everything they wished for, with a bonus of some added malware.
It was at this stage that another thought occurred to me: several of
these sites offering this dangerous advice were also trying to get me to download and install software, generally housekeeping and clean-up
utilities. What if their advice was carefully tailored to encourage
visitors to download malware, then turn Gatekeeper off to ensure that it installed and ran undetected?
I can’t prove anything, and I’m afraid these products aren’t the sort I’d ever let loose on one of my Macs anyway, but what an ingenious deception.
All this brings me back to the issue of paradoxical behaviour. Why would anyone put blind trust in such websites urging us to turn off our Mac’s security defences? I’d rather dance naked in a blizzard, thank you.//
=
See https://i.imgur.com/sTK50vE.png
Or https://imgur.com/sTK50vE
Am 25.09.22 um 12:00 schrieb HunterBD:
On 25/09/2022 10:48, HunterBD wrote:
On 22/09/2022 12:27, HunterBD wrote:
Unexpected message today:-
https://imgur.com/a/4vT4SQE
*TRY HERE INSTEAD*! https://ibb.co/X2kyxCM
Here's a MUST READ item!
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/09/25/last-week-on-my-mac-paradoxical-undressing/
David!
Pls stop this!
Disposed of FUP2
On 25/09/2022 10:48, HunterBD wrote:
On 22/09/2022 12:27, HunterBD wrote:
Unexpected message today:-
https://imgur.com/a/4vT4SQE
*TRY HERE INSTEAD*! https://ibb.co/X2kyxCM
Here's a MUST READ item!
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/09/25/last-week-on-my-mac-paradoxical-undressing/
On 25/09/2022 13:16, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 25.09.22 um 12:00 schrieb HunterBD:
On 25/09/2022 10:48, HunterBD wrote:
On 22/09/2022 12:27, HunterBD wrote:
Unexpected message today:-
https://imgur.com/a/4vT4SQE
*TRY HERE INSTEAD*! https://ibb.co/X2kyxCM
Here's a MUST READ item!
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/09/25/last-week-on-my-mac-paradoxical-undressing/
David!
Pls stop this!
Disposed of FUP2
FYI https://imgur.com/sTK50vE
HTH
Am 25.09.22 um 14:28 schrieb HunterBD:
On 25/09/2022 13:16, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 25.09.22 um 12:00 schrieb HunterBD:
On 25/09/2022 10:48, HunterBD wrote:
On 22/09/2022 12:27, HunterBD wrote:
Unexpected message today:-
https://imgur.com/a/4vT4SQE
*TRY HERE INSTEAD*! https://ibb.co/X2kyxCM
Here's a MUST READ item!
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/09/25/last-week-on-my-mac-paradoxical-undressing/
David!
Pls stop this!
Disposed of FUP2
FYI https://imgur.com/sTK50vE
HTH
Press Options-key while starting the "mints.app"
Beware of the risks involved.
My Apple iMac showed an alert which said:-As an inanimate object it didn't 'infer' anything, it merely stated a condition that triggered it, as explained by HO in your email above, apparently.What do YOU think it inferred?Who/What caused my machine to doubt the viability of HO?It didn't "doubt the viability of HO".
https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
On 23/09/2022 22:32, Steve Carroll questioned my integrity again!
My Apple iMac showed an alert which said:-As an inanimate object it didn't 'infer' anything, it merely stated aWhat do YOU think it inferred?Who/What caused my machine to doubt the viability of HO?It didn't "doubt the viability of HO".
https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
condition that triggered it, as explained by HO in your email above,
apparently.
"Mints.app" was blocked from use because it is not from an identified developer."
Ref:- https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
Did ANYONE else see this warning?
Am 28.09.22 um 14:11 schrieb David Brooks:
On 23/09/2022 22:32, Steve Carroll questioned my integrity again!
My Apple iMac showed an alert which said:-As an inanimate object it didn't 'infer' anything, it merely stated aWhat do YOU think it inferred?Who/What caused my machine to doubt the viability of HO?It didn't "doubt the viability of HO".
https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
condition that triggered it, as explained by HO in your email above,
apparently.
"Mints.app" was blocked from use because it is not from an identified
developer."
Ref:- https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
Did ANYONE else see this warning?
I told you already to press the ctrl-key (or is it the option-key?) when starting the mints.app.
Then it will start without any comment or refusal. After the first start
it will always start without ctrl.
On 28/09/2022 14:09, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
I told you already to press the ctrl-key (or is it the option-key?) when
starting the mints.app.
Then it will start without any comment or refusal. After the first start
it will always start without ctrl.
Why didn't you answer my question, Joerg?
In any event, what if doing as you suggests grants permission for
malicious code to be installed on my iMac?
Do you understand what I'm implying?
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the
software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the
software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak.
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say?
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in fact.
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the
software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak.
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say?
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in fact.
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:21:14 +0100, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the
software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak.
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say?
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in fact.
You set fire to a bridge and were then saddened to see it burn?
On 03/10/2022 07:26, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:21:14 +0100, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the
software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak.
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say?
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in
fact.
You set fire to a bridge and were then saddened to see it burn?
That's it EXACTLY!
What happened to the image?
On Oct 16, 2024 at 7:16:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2024 14:38, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/10/2022 07:26, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:21:14 +0100, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCM
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints?
I'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the
software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak. >>>>>
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say?
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in
fact.
You set fire to a bridge and were then saddened to see it burn?
That's it EXACTLY!
What happened to the image?
HERE is copy of the image to which I referred:-
https://i.ibb.co/0yhmfgy/Screenshot-2022-09-22-at-12-15-28.png
It clearly shows that (Howard Oakley's) "Mints.app" is NOT from an
identified developer.
Does he say it is?
On Oct 16, 2024 at 11:17:26 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2024 17:48, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2024 at 7:16:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2024 14:38, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/10/2022 07:26, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:21:14 +0100, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote:
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCMI'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints? >>>>>>>>>>
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the >>>>>>>> software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak. >>>>>>>
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say? >>>>>>>
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in >>>>>>> fact.
You set fire to a bridge and were then saddened to see it burn?
That's it EXACTLY!
What happened to the image?
HERE is copy of the image to which I referred:-
https://i.ibb.co/0yhmfgy/Screenshot-2022-09-22-at-12-15-28.png
It clearly shows that (Howard Oakley's) "Mints.app" is NOT from an
identified developer.
Does he say it is?
You need to ask HIM that question? He will not 'talk' to me about it.
If he has not said it what is the issue? I am not following where there is anything of any real concern here.
On Oct 16, 2024 at 3:10:53 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2024 23:00, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2024 at 11:17:26 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2024 17:48, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2024 at 7:16:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2024 14:38, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/10/2022 07:26, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:21:14 +0100, David BrooksThat's it EXACTLY!
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 28/09/2022 17:10, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-28, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 23/09/2022 17:14, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-09-23, HunterBD <[email protected]d> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
Did you see this image? https://imgbb.com/X2kyxCMI'm not going to help you slime HO over his app.
I saw this with my own eyes on my iMac screen.
Can YOU replicate it - by downloading and installing Mints? >>>>>>>>>>>>
So, you really ARE chicken-livered!!!
LOL! What's this mean (it's from code you posted):
$(".container").prev('tr').removeClass('last_child');
I have no idea where it comes from or what it signifies.
Do YOU know?
There's no "slime" involved, just finding out the truth!
The "truth" is you've no more evidence here than you have for the >>>>>>>>>> software from MA or JD and that's chicken-sh*tted.
I have *NO* evidence .... just a 'feeling in my water', so to speak. >>>>>>>>>
HO's email messages to me were 'less than friendly' shall we say? >>>>>>>>>
Quite 'out of character' for a fellow naval officer. Rather sad, in >>>>>>>>> fact.
You set fire to a bridge and were then saddened to see it burn? >>>>>>>
What happened to the image?
HERE is copy of the image to which I referred:-
https://i.ibb.co/0yhmfgy/Screenshot-2022-09-22-at-12-15-28.png
It clearly shows that (Howard Oakley's) "Mints.app" is NOT from an >>>>>> identified developer.
Does he say it is?
You need to ask HIM that question? He will not 'talk' to me about it.
If he has not said it what is the issue? I am not following where there is >>> anything of any real concern here.
Apple showed me an image declaring that HO is not Kosher!
Why do consider that shouldn't be a matter of concern?
Seems like it was taken care of. And nothing huge.
Maybe you/we should ask ChatGPT?
Q: What do you know of the macOS app mints.app.
A: Mints.app is a utility for macOS designed to provide detailed insights into
system processes, particularly focused on security monitoring. It allows users
to track background activities like anti-malware scans (such as XProtect and Gatekeeper) and offers information about the system’s firmware and recovery versions. It’s especially useful for advanced users who want to ensure their
macOS security features are functioning properly, as it provides a clear log of scheduled processes and their execution status.
While powerful, Mints is geared towards those familiar with macOS system monitoring and may require administrative privileges for some tasks. It’s often used to diagnose potential issues with system updates or malware detection and provides in-depth technical data that typical users may not be aware of, making it highly beneficial for system troubleshooting.
For more details, you can explore the discussion around its capabilities, such
as how it lists firmware and recovery versions
Q: Why was it removed from the Apple App store?
A: The exact reasons for mints.app being removed from the Apple App Store have
not been disclosed publicly, but several factors could be involved. Apple enforces strict guidelines, and apps are often removed for reasons such as failure to comply with those guidelines, outdated support for new iOS versions, or lack of updates for an extended period. In fact, Apple recently removed over 500,000 apps that were considered “abandoned” due to lack of updates or developer support.
Additionally, apps can be removed for legal reasons or violations of App Store
policies, which include data privacy concerns, in-app purchase violations, or even at the request of local governments in certain cases  .
It’s possible mints.app could have fallen into one of these categories, but without official clarification from Apple or the app developers, the exact reason remains speculative.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:[....]
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<[email protected]>:
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a
combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer’s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the
macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions
from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an
active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps.
Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS’s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn’t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms: >> - **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks,
it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified
developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or
**ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious
content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to
**VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines
for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check**
- Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and
provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`. >>
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in
**Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit’s **r/MacOS**.
These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app’s safety
before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38�AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19�AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50�AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<[email protected]>:
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a
combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the >>> macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions >>> from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an >>> active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps.
Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety. >>>
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms: >>> - **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that >>> checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks, >>> it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified
developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden >>> the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running >>> it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or
**ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious >>> content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to
**VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines >>> for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check**
- Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and
provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its >>> quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in
**Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**.
These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or >>> developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety >>> before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing.
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of years.
Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 10:10:51�AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <67114505$4$3826$[email protected]>:
In article <671141a9$3$1428338$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<[email protected]>:
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a
combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the >>>>>> macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions >>>>>> from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an >>>>>> active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps. >>>>>> Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms:
- **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks, >>>>>> it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified >>>>>> developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or >>>>>> **ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious >>>>>> content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to >>>>>> **VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines >>>>>> for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check**
- Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and >>>>>> provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in
**Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**. >>>>>> These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety >>>>>> before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing.
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of
years.
AI is going to be nothing but trouble.
It will be trouble, but not nothing but trouble.
we'll all wreck whatever is left
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:23:10�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <67116409$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67114735$0$212404$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 10:10:51 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67114505$4$3826$[email protected]>:
In article <671141a9$3$1428338$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<[email protected]>:
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a >>>>>>> combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the
macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions
from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an
active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps. >>>>>>> Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms:
- **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks,
it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified >>>>>>> developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or >>>>>>> **ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious
content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to >>>>>>> **VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines
for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check**
- Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and >>>>>>> provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in
**Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**. >>>>>>> These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety
before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing.
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of
years.
AI is going to be nothing but trouble.
It will be trouble, but not nothing but trouble.
I leave it alone.
You run in fear from content you cannot handle. It is amusing to watch.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:21:20�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <671171aa$0$3829$[email protected]>:
In article <67116f01$0$212411$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:23:10 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67116409$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67114735$0$212404$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 10:10:51 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67114505$4$3826$[email protected]>:
In article <671141a9$3$1428338$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:[....]
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a >>>>>>>>> combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the
macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions
from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an
active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps. >>>>>>>>> Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms:
- **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks,
it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified
developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or >>>>>>>>> **ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious
content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to
**VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines
for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check**
- Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and >>>>>>>>> provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in >>>>>>>>> **Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**. >>>>>>>>> These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety
before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing.
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of
years.
AI is going to be nothing but trouble.
It will be trouble, but not nothing but trouble.
I leave it alone.
You run in fear from content you cannot handle. It is amusing to watch.
I don't trust it. That's my choice. I bet you use Google too.
You do not have what it takes to refute CONTENT you do not like, so you jump to ad hominem.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:54:06�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <67117959$0$3834$[email protected]>:
In article <671175db$9$3068690$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:21:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<671171aa$0$3829$[email protected]>:
In article <67116f01$0$212411$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
I don't trust it. That's my choice. I bet you use Google too.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:23:10 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67116409$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67114735$0$212404$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 10:10:51 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67114505$4$3826$[email protected]>:
In article <671141a9$3$1428338$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:[....]
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a >>>>>>>>>>> combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the
macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions
from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an
active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps.
Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms:
- **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks,
it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified
developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or >>>>>>>>>>> **ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious
content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to
**VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines
for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check**
- Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and
provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in >>>>>>>>>>> **Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**.
These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety
before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing. >>>>>>>>
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of
years.
AI is going to be nothing but trouble.
It will be trouble, but not nothing but trouble.
I leave it alone.
You run in fear from content you cannot handle. It is amusing to watch. >>>
You do not have what it takes to refute CONTENT you do not like, so you jump
to ad hominem.
I don't trust it. Do you use Google too?
I used many sources of information, but my focus is on the content more than the source. I do not accept your ad hominem world view. With that said, of course there is room to evaluate the reliability of the source, but you fail that when you trust Trump -- known as one of the biggest liars in politics. You have a very bad filter in terms of whom you trust and where you get your information and how you evaluate it.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 2:58:57�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <6711888c$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67117d2e$1$2385537$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:54:06 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67117959$0$3834$[email protected]>:
In article <671175db$9$3068690$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:21:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<671171aa$0$3829$[email protected]>:
In article <67116f01$0$212411$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:23:10 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67116409$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67114735$0$212404$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 10:10:51 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67114505$4$3826$[email protected]>:
In article <671141a9$3$1428338$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:[....]
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a >>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the
macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions
from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an
active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps.
Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms:
- **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks,
it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified
developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues.
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner**
- Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or
**ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious
content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to
**VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines
for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check** >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app
```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and
provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in >>>>>>>>>>>>> **Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**.
These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety
before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing. >>>>>>>>>>
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of
years.
AI is going to be nothing but trouble.
It will be trouble, but not nothing but trouble.
I leave it alone.
You run in fear from content you cannot handle. It is amusing to watch.
I don't trust it. That's my choice. I bet you use Google too.
You do not have what it takes to refute CONTENT you do not like, so you jump
to ad hominem.
I don't trust it. Do you use Google too?
I used many sources of information, but my focus is on the content more than
the source. I do not accept your ad hominem world view. With that said, of >> course there is room to evaluate the reliability of the source, but you fail
that when you trust Trump -- known as one of the biggest liars in politics.
You have a very bad filter in terms of whom you trust and where you get your
information and how you evaluate it.
You ignored this.
You couldn't get through all that tripe without mentioning Trump could
you?
I don't trust AI.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 3:56:27�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <67119606$2$3828$[email protected]>:
In article <67118cfc$4$2873004$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 2:58:57 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6711888c$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67117d2e$1$2385537$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:54:06 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67117959$0$3834$[email protected]>:
In article <671175db$9$3068690$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:21:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<671171aa$0$3829$[email protected]>:
In article <67116f01$0$212411$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:23:10 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67116409$0$3827$[email protected]>:
In article <67114735$0$212404$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 10:10:51 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67114505$4$3826$[email protected]>:
In article <671141a9$3$1428338$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 8:06:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 15:59, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2024 14:49, Snit wrote:
On Oct 17, 2024 at 12:26:50 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:[....]
Thank you. I asked too. :-)
What did you get?
To independently verify **Mints.app** or any app, you can use a
combination of the following methods:
### 1. **Check the Developer?s Reputation**
Since **Howard Oakley** is a well-known and reputable developer in the
macOS community, you can start by reviewing user feedback and opinions
from trusted sources. His blog, **The Eclectic Light Company**, has an
active user base and comments section where users discuss his apps.
Checking these discussions might give you insight into the app's safety.
### 2. **Use macOS?s Built-in Tools**
Even if the app isn?t notarized, macOS has built-in security mechanisms:
- **XProtect**: This is Apple's built-in malware scanning tool that
checks apps when they're first opened. If it passes XProtect's checks,
it's less likely to be malicious.
- **Gatekeeper**: While Gatekeeper blocks apps from unidentified
developers, it will still scan for known malware. Once you've overridden
the block, macOS will check the app for issues. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
### 3. **Verify with a Virus/Malware Scanner** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Use a **trusted antivirus tool** to scan the app before running
it. For macOS, apps like **Malwarebytes**, **Avast Security**, or
**ClamXAV** are common choices that can scan the app for any malicious
content.
- You can also upload the app's installer or executable file to
**VirusTotal.com**, which checks it against multiple antivirus engines
for malware.
### 4. **Code Signature and Quarantine Flag Check** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Open **Terminal** and run:
```
codesign -vvv --deep /path/to/Mints.app >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ```
This will check the app's code signature, if it has one, and
provide details about its integrity.
- To see if macOS has flagged it as suspicious, you can check its
quarantine flag with:
```
xattr /path/to/Mints.app
```
If it's quarantined, it will show a flag like `com.apple.quarantine`.
### 5. **Community and Forums**
- You can ask for opinions and reviews of Mints.app in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Mac-specific forums** like **MacRumors** or Reddit?s **r/MacOS**.
These communities are active and can offer feedback on specific apps or
developers.
These methods should give you enough confidence about the app?s safety
before you decide to run it on your system.
What do you think of that advice?
Sounds GOOD to me! ?
Good. ChatGPT is FAR from perfect, but it is pretty amazing. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Look forward to seeing what Apple Intelligence does over the next couple of
years.
AI is going to be nothing but trouble.
It will be trouble, but not nothing but trouble.
I leave it alone.
You run in fear from content you cannot handle. It is amusing to watch.
I don't trust it. That's my choice. I bet you use Google too.
You do not have what it takes to refute CONTENT you do not like, so you jump
to ad hominem.
I don't trust it. Do you use Google too?
I used many sources of information, but my focus is on the content more than
the source. I do not accept your ad hominem world view. With that said, of
course there is room to evaluate the reliability of the source, but you fail
that when you trust Trump -- known as one of the biggest liars in politics.
You have a very bad filter in terms of whom you trust and where you get your
information and how you evaluate it.
You ignored this.
Look below
I did. It was not relevant.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:07:53�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <67119895$4$2760$[email protected]>:
I used many sources of information, but my focus is on the content more than
the source. I do not accept your ad hominem world view. With that said, of
course there is room to evaluate the reliability of the source, but you fail
that when you trust Trump -- known as one of the biggest liars in politics.
You have a very bad filter in terms of whom you trust and where you get your
information and how you evaluate it.
If you come up with a relevant reply to this let me know.
On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:26:17�PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote <67119ce6$1$2753$[email protected]>:
In article <671198f2$2$3620716$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:07:53 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67119895$4$2760$[email protected]>:
I used many sources of information, but my focus is on the content more than
the source. I do not accept your ad hominem world view. With that said, of
course there is room to evaluate the reliability of the source, but you fail
that when you trust Trump -- known as one of the biggest liars in politics.
You have a very bad filter in terms of whom you trust and where you get your
information and how you evaluate it.
If you come up with a relevant reply to this let me know.
You have none. Fair enough. Seems the conversation is over.
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