• Mouse won't click!

    From Martin S Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 09:59:10 2022
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse
    - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS, but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    Martin S Taylor

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 12:27:55 2022
    Am 18.08.22 um 10:59 schrieb Martin S Taylor:
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS, but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    No.



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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Martin S Taylor on Thu Aug 18 11:06:03 2022
    On 2022-08-18, Martin S Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS, but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    I had something similar years ago with an old MacBook but cured it with a reboot. There
    seems to be lots of advice on the net on how to overcome the problem but I can't find
    anything describing what could cause the problem. Presumably the MBP is up to date macOS-wise?

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Martin S Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 12:18:23 2022
    On Aug 18, 2022, Alan B wrote
    (in article<tdl6eq$10gde$[email protected]>):

    On 2022-08-18, Martin S Taylor<[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse
    - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the
    Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in
    Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS,
    but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    I had something similar years ago with an old MacBook but cured it with a reboot. There
    seems to be lots of advice on the net on how to overcome the problem but I can't find
    anything describing what could cause the problem. Presumably the MBP is up to date macOS-wise?

    I looked on the Web, but couldn't find anything helpful. Rebooting obviously didn't sort it. And the OS was, indeed, up to date.

    MST

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Aug 18 17:05:39 2022
    On 18/08/2022 16:55, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 13:06 schrieb Alan B:
    On 2022-08-18, Martin S Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely >>> unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse
    - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard
    left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was >>> hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the
    Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in
    Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS,
    but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    I had something similar years ago with an old MacBook but cured it with a reboot. There
    seems to be lots of advice on the net on how to overcome the problem but I can't find
    anything describing what could cause the problem. Presumably the MBP is up to date macOS-wise?

    I think this is not relevant anyway. More important is the integrity of
    the OS and not its patch level.

    In such a situation it is impossible to judge the integrity without
    forensic tools. In my opinion the OP has done the right thing to start
    with a clean sheet.

    Remind me, please ..... do YOU support the use of EtreCheck to review
    the integrity of an Apple computer? https://www.etresoft.com/

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 17:55:58 2022
    Am 18.08.22 um 13:06 schrieb Alan B:
    On 2022-08-18, Martin S Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely >> unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse >> - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard
    left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was >> hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the
    Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in
    Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS,
    but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    I had something similar years ago with an old MacBook but cured it with a reboot. There
    seems to be lots of advice on the net on how to overcome the problem but I can't find
    anything describing what could cause the problem. Presumably the MBP is up to date macOS-wise?

    I think this is not relevant anyway. More important is the integrity of
    the OS and not its patch level.

    In such a situation it is impossible to judge the integrity without
    forensic tools. In my opinion the OP has done the right thing to start
    with a clean sheet.


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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 18:26:27 2022
    Am 18.08.22 um 18:05 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 16:55, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    I think this is not relevant anyway. More important is the integrity of
    the OS and not its patch level.

    In such a situation it is impossible to judge the integrity without
    forensic tools. In my opinion the OP has done the right thing to start
    with a clean sheet.

    Remind me, please ..... do YOU support the use of EtreCheck to review
    the integrity of an Apple computer? https://www.etresoft.com/

    I do not know or use this software. There was never a need to do so.


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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Aug 18 16:30:44 2022
    On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:16:40 -0400, nospam wrote:

    In article <nrtLK.835207$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]s> wrote:


    Remind me, please ..... do YOU support the use

    thread hijack attempt.

    Well at least it doesn't involve a certain AV product (yet).

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 18 12:16:40 2022
    In article <nrtLK.835207$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]s> wrote:


    Remind me, please ..... do YOU support the use

    thread hijack attempt.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Aug 18 18:48:38 2022
    On 18/08/2022 17:26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 18:05 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 16:55, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    I think this is not relevant anyway. More important is the integrity of
    the OS and not its patch level.

    In such a situation it is impossible to judge the integrity without
    forensic tools. In my opinion the OP has done the right thing to start
    with a clean sheet.

    Remind me, please ..... do YOU support the use of EtreCheck to review
    the integrity of an Apple computer? https://www.etresoft.com/

    I do not know or use this software. There was never a need to do so.

    Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

    Are you familiar with the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Aug 18 18:25:24 2022
    On 2022-08-18, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 13:06 schrieb Alan B:
    On 2022-08-18, Martin S Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi:

    Curious bug in Valentina's MacBook Pro yesterday. The machine was entirely >>> unresponsive to the mouse or trackpad click. Same with an external USB mouse
    - we could move the mouse normally, and right-click, but the standard
    left-click just didn't work. It was the same for all users (although it was >>> hard to log in as other than the default user since we could only control the
    Mac using the keyboard). Resetting the PRAM didn't help, as didn't booting in
    Safe Mode.

    Finally fixed it by going to the recovery partition and re-installing the OS,
    but still... Has anyone else ever seen this?

    I had something similar years ago with an old MacBook but cured it with a reboot. There
    seems to be lots of advice on the net on how to overcome the problem but I can't find
    anything describing what could cause the problem. Presumably the MBP is up to date macOS-wise?

    I think this is not relevant anyway. More important is the integrity of
    the OS and not its patch level.

    In such a situation it is impossible to judge the integrity without
    forensic tools. In my opinion the OP has done the right thing to start
    with a clean sheet.

    Of course. I've re-installed macOS many times over the years in attempts
    to cure problems when other methods have failed.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 20:17:12 2022
    Am 18.08.22 um 19:48 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 17:26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    I do not know or use this software. There was never a need to do so.

    Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

    Is this a serious question?

    Are you familiar with the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

    And this is ceratinly OT in this thread.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Aug 18 20:09:01 2022
    On 18/08/2022 19:17, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 19:48 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 17:26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    I do not know or use this software. There was never a need to do so.

    Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

    Is this a serious question?

    Of course it was a serious question!

    Your header info reported - User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; *Linux*
    x86_64; rv:91.0)

    Are you familiar with the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

    And this is ceratinly OT in this thread.

    Not at all! The use of EtreCheck is widely advocated on the ASC forums,
    yet you claim never to have heard of it.

    You are a newcomer here. Learning the ropes is recommended. ❤️

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 23:10:41 2022
    Am 18.08.22 um 21:09 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 19:17, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 19:48 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 17:26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    I do not know or use this software. There was never a need to do so.

    Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

    Is this a serious question?

    Of course it was a serious question!

    Your header info reported - User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; *Linux*
    x86_64; rv:91.0)

    Sorry to say: You have no clue of anything. Look into my header, little
    boy. BTW it is so easy to fake the header.

    Are you familiar with the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

    And this is ceratinly OT in this thread.

    Not at all! The use of EtreCheck is widely advocated on the ASC forums,
    yet you claim never to have heard of it.

    This is not the way I guarantee the integrity of my macOS. But to be
    honest I'm not surprised because you also believe in snake oil.

    You are a newcomer here. Learning the ropes is recommended. ❤️

    And you are the netcop in this group? Seriously?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 18 17:13:50 2022
    In article <i7wLK.1065769$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]s> wrote:

    Learning the ropes is recommended.

    indeed it is. perhaps someone can tie you to a tree, during a
    thunderstorm, using their newly found rope skills.

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  • From David Kennedy@21:1/5 to Alan B on Thu Aug 18 22:41:13 2022
    On 18/08/2022 17:30, Alan B wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:16:40 -0400, nospam wrote:

    In article <nrtLK.835207$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]s> wrote:


    Remind me, please ..... do YOU support the use

    thread hijack attempt.

    Well at least it doesn't involve a certain AV product (yet).

    Why the hell do people keep feeding the bloody weasel?

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Aug 18 23:12:58 2022
    On 18/08/2022 22:10, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 21:09 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 19:17, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 18.08.22 um 19:48 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 18/08/2022 17:26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    I do not know or use this software. There was never a need to do so.

    Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

    Is this a serious question?

    Of course it was a serious question!

    Your header info reported - User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; *Linux*
    x86_64; rv:91.0)

    Sorry to say: You have no clue of anything. Look into my header, little
    boy. BTW it is so easy to fake the header.

    Is THIS a FAKE header, Joerg?

    Path: not-for-mail
    From: Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac
    Subject: Re: Mouse won't click!
    Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:26:27 +0200
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    Are you familiar with the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

    And this is ceratinly OT in this thread.

    Not at all! The use of EtreCheck is widely advocated on the ASC forums,
    yet you claim never to have heard of it.

    This is not the way I guarantee the integrity of my macOS. But to be
    honest I'm not surprised because you also believe in snake oil.

    I do NOT use an AV product on my computer!

    You are a newcomer here. Learning the ropes is recommended. ❤️

    And you are the netcop in this group? Seriously?

    Only in fun! ;-)

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 19 07:26:25 2022
    Am 19.08.22 um 00:12 schrieb David Brooks:
    Is THIS a FAKE header, Joerg?

    Unnecessary overhead snipped

    Injection-Info: solani.org;
    logging-data="72178"; mail-complaints-to="[email protected]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; *Linux* x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 <----LOOK!
    Thunderbird/91.11.0

    This is neither:

    Injection-Info: solani.org;
    logging-data="84960"; mail-complaints-to="[email protected]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0)
    Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.1.2

    This is not the way I guarantee the integrity of my macOS. But to be
    honest I'm not surprised because you also believe in snake oil.

    I do NOT use an AV product on my computer!

    You are a newcomer here. Learning the ropes is recommended. ❤️

    And you are the netcop in this group? Seriously?

    Only in fun! ;-)

    Aha.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Aug 19 09:17:15 2022
    On 18/08/2022 22:13, nospam wrote:
    In article <i7wLK.1065769$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]s> wrote:

    Learning the ropes is recommended.

    indeed it is. perhaps someone can tie you to a tree, during a
    thunderstorm, using their newly found rope skills.

    https://forums.macrumors.com/conversations/safety-on-the-internet.946250/#convMessage-1483210

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