• M4 Mini Disk Upgrade

    From RJH@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 19:04:57 2025
    Apparently, the new M4 Mini's drive is upgradeable and reasonably easy to do.

    The issue as I see it is finding a suitable SSD as (I think) the controller is needed - it's not an off the shelf part. They are starting to appear on Aliexpress etc, and there's this:

    https://expandmacmini.com/product/ssd-m4-2tb/

    Any views on the process or part?

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to RJH on Thu Feb 6 10:56:13 2025
    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Apparently, the new M4 Mini's drive is upgradeable and reasonably easy to do.

    The issue as I see it is finding a suitable SSD as (I think) the controller is
    needed - it's not an off the shelf part. They are starting to appear on Aliexpress etc, and there's this:

    https://expandmacmini.com/product/ssd-m4-2tb/

    Any views on the process or part?

    I've only seen this video, no experience myself: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtE2kMTVOQ

    You'd need another Mac (Arm or recent-ish Intel) to do the DFU process.

    Theo

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Theo on Fri Feb 7 19:03:32 2025
    On 6 Feb 2025 at 10:56:13 GMT, Theo wrote:

    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Apparently, the new M4 Mini's drive is upgradeable and reasonably easy to do.

    The issue as I see it is finding a suitable SSD as (I think) the controller is
    needed - it's not an off the shelf part. They are starting to appear on
    Aliexpress etc, and there's this:

    https://expandmacmini.com/product/ssd-m4-2tb/

    Any views on the process or part?

    I've only seen this video, no experience myself: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtE2kMTVOQ

    You'd need another Mac (Arm or recent-ish Intel) to do the DFU process.


    Looks good, thanks. Some reassurance there that the supplier is genuine.


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to RJH on Sat Feb 8 15:05:01 2025
    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6 Feb 2025 at 10:56:13 GMT, Theo wrote:

    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Apparently, the new M4 Mini's drive is upgradeable and reasonably easy to do.

    The issue as I see it is finding a suitable SSD as (I think) the controller is
    needed - it's not an off the shelf part. They are starting to appear on
    Aliexpress etc, and there's this:

    https://expandmacmini.com/product/ssd-m4-2tb/

    Any views on the process or part?

    I've only seen this video, no experience myself: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtE2kMTVOQ

    You'd need another Mac (Arm or recent-ish Intel) to do the DFU process.


    Looks good, thanks. Some reassurance there that the supplier is genuine.

    TBH there isn't a whole lot to go wrong. The card is just a NAND flash chip and some power supply circuitry. Assuming the NAND is the right part and
    isn't fake I don't see how they could mess it up.

    I watched some of dosdude1's videos on transplanting NAND chips via
    soldering. It seems that Macs with soldered NANDs store some serial number information in there which has to be copied correctly else they won't boot / wifi won't work, but that looks not to be the case for those with removable cards. The card NANDs do need to be blank though, so maybe swapping already-installed cards between machines won't work.

    (there are iphone/ipad repair tools for writing these chips, which would resolve that)

    Theo

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to RJH on Fri Mar 28 16:52:09 2025
    On 5 Feb 2025 at 19:04:57 GMT, RJH wrote:

    Apparently, the new M4 Mini's drive is upgradeable and reasonably easy to do.

    The issue as I see it is finding a suitable SSD as (I think) the controller is
    needed - it's not an off the shelf part. They are starting to appear on Aliexpress etc, and there's this:

    https://expandmacmini.com/product/ssd-m4-2tb/

    Any views on the process or part?

    Bought one of these S/H on ebay:

    https://store.m4-ssd.com/products/1tb-drive-for-mac-mini-m4

    All went well. The case is easier to open than it looks - Apple use a sort of press stud to secure the base, rather than the usual glue or brittle plastic clip. The initialising is a bit of a chore but worked, and it was all done including a TM restore in under an hour. Using the Blackmagic disk speed test the read and write speeds are approaching double the original 256GB disk - 4000/3000 read/write MB/s.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to RJH on Sat Mar 29 09:13:31 2025
    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bought one of these S/H on ebay:

    https://store.m4-ssd.com/products/1tb-drive-for-mac-mini-m4

    All went well. The case is easier to open than it looks - Apple use a sort of press stud to secure the base, rather than the usual glue or brittle plastic clip. The initialising is a bit of a chore but worked, and it was all done including a TM restore in under an hour. Using the Blackmagic disk speed test the read and write speeds are approaching double the original 256GB disk - 4000/3000 read/write MB/s.

    That's great to hear. It really opens up the Mini as a Proper Upgradeable Computer, especially for the Mini's price.

    Now it would be great as a server, if only they'd get Linux running well on it...

    Theo

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 29 13:10:06 2025
    On Mar 29, 2025 at 5:13:31 AM EDT, "Theo" <[email protected]> wrote:

    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bought one of these S/H on ebay:

    https://store.m4-ssd.com/products/1tb-drive-for-mac-mini-m4

    All went well. The case is easier to open than it looks - Apple use a sort of
    press stud to secure the base, rather than the usual glue or brittle plastic >> clip. The initialising is a bit of a chore but worked, and it was all done >> including a TM restore in under an hour. Using the Blackmagic disk speed test
    the read and write speeds are approaching double the original 256GB disk - >> 4000/3000 read/write MB/s.

    That's great to hear. It really opens up the Mini as a Proper Upgradeable Computer, especially for the Mini's price.

    Now it would be great as a server, if only they'd get Linux running well on it...

    Why does it need Linux? It is already running Unix.

    In fact, Apple used to sell MacOS servers. I guarantee you that Apple has
    rack mounted Minis (or some custom configuration, whatever) running their internal networks. All running MacOS. No need for Linux.

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  • From Chris Ridd@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Wed Apr 9 08:18:21 2025
    On 29/03/2025 13:10, Tyrone wrote:
    On Mar 29, 2025 at 5:13:31 AM EDT, "Theo" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bought one of these S/H on ebay:

    https://store.m4-ssd.com/products/1tb-drive-for-mac-mini-m4

    All went well. The case is easier to open than it looks - Apple use a sort of
    press stud to secure the base, rather than the usual glue or brittle plastic
    clip. The initialising is a bit of a chore but worked, and it was all done >>> including a TM restore in under an hour. Using the Blackmagic disk speed test
    the read and write speeds are approaching double the original 256GB disk - >>> 4000/3000 read/write MB/s.

    That's great to hear. It really opens up the Mini as a Proper Upgradeable
    Computer, especially for the Mini's price.

    Now it would be great as a server, if only they'd get Linux running well on >> it...

    Why does it need Linux? It is already running Unix.

    In fact, Apple used to sell MacOS servers. I guarantee you that Apple has rack mounted Minis (or some custom configuration, whatever) running their internal networks. All running MacOS. No need for Linux.

    Guarantee, eh?

    I know they've got Linux boxes in prod providing core services across
    the company and running on Xeon Gold CPUs.

    I'm fairly sure their foray into macOS server software and hardware is
    done and dusted. There's little point them even running it internally.

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    Chris

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to Chris Ridd on Thu Apr 10 22:06:55 2025
    On 9 Apr 2025 at 08:18:21 BST, "Chris Ridd" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 29/03/2025 13:10, Tyrone wrote:
    On Mar 29, 2025 at 5:13:31 AM EDT, "Theo" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    RJH <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bought one of these S/H on ebay:

    https://store.m4-ssd.com/products/1tb-drive-for-mac-mini-m4

    All went well. The case is easier to open than it looks - Apple use a sort of
    press stud to secure the base, rather than the usual glue or brittle plastic
    clip. The initialising is a bit of a chore but worked, and it was all done >>>> including a TM restore in under an hour. Using the Blackmagic disk speed test
    the read and write speeds are approaching double the original 256GB disk - >>>> 4000/3000 read/write MB/s.

    That's great to hear. It really opens up the Mini as a Proper Upgradeable >>> Computer, especially for the Mini's price.

    Now it would be great as a server, if only they'd get Linux running well on >>> it...

    Why does it need Linux? It is already running Unix.

    In fact, Apple used to sell MacOS servers. I guarantee you that Apple has >> rack mounted Minis (or some custom configuration, whatever) running their
    internal networks. All running MacOS. No need for Linux.

    Guarantee, eh?

    I know they've got Linux boxes in prod providing core services across
    the company and running on Xeon Gold CPUs.

    I'm fairly sure their foray into macOS server software and hardware is
    done and dusted. There's little point them even running it internally.

    I've still got a 2008 XServe using up a slot in the rack if anyone would
    like a piece of history :)

    Cheers - Jaimie
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  • From Richard Tobin@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Apr 11 01:31:37 2025
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:
    I've still got a 2008 XServe using up a slot in the rack if anyone would
    like a piece of history :)

    I was recently required by our computing staff to move this Usenet
    server off a MacPro 1,1 because it was no longer receiving OS updates.

    -- Richard

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