Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
On 11/12/2024 22:28, Ian McCall wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
5*5 came up with 25 for me and there is a little calculator icon at the
right hand end of the search bar. Have you got the calculator enabled as
a Spotlight category in System Settings?
On 11 Dec 2024, Bruce wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):
On 11/12/2024 22:28, Ian McCall wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to >>> see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >>> convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >>> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >>> gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >>> reviews.
5*5 came up with 25 for me and there is a little calculator icon at the
right hand end of the search bar. Have you got the calculator enabled as
a Spotlight category in System Settings?
Just checked - yes, I do. The behaviour you’re describing is exactly what happened for me prior to this update. Could be coincidence I guess, but Spotlight appears to not be working for any non-search function (eg. Calculator or conversions), but also not indexing new applications (e.g. it won’t find the new Image Playground, even though I’ve opened it).
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
Cheers,
Ian
On 11 Dec 2024 at 23:19:18 GMT, Ian McCall wrote:
On 11 Dec 2024, Bruce wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):
On 11/12/2024 22:28, Ian McCall wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to
see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >>>> convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >>>> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >>>> gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >>>> reviews.
5*5 came up with 25 for me and there is a little calculator icon at the
right hand end of the search bar. Have you got the calculator enabled as >>> a Spotlight category in System Settings?
Just checked - yes, I do. The behaviour you’re describing is exactly what >> happened for me prior to this update. Could be coincidence I guess, but
Spotlight appears to not be working for any non-search function (eg.
Calculator or conversions), but also not indexing new applications (e.g. it >> won’t find the new Image Playground, even though I’ve opened it).
FWIW, same as you here on 15.1.1
On 12/12/2024 08:16, John Hill wrote:
You're not an old dog until you can't learn new tricks.
You may officially drop the "Old" from Old John now! ;-)
You're not an old dog until you can't learn new tricks.
On 11 Dec 2024 at 22:28:49 GMT, "Ian McCall" <[email protected]> wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to >> see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to
convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually
gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate
reviews.
Cheers,
Ian
Working for me in 15.2.
I never knew about this trick! Thank you.
On 11 Dec 2024 at 22:28:49 GMT, "Ian McCall"<[email protected]> wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
Cheers,
Ian
Working for me in 15.2.
I never knew about this trick! Thank you.
Old John.
On 12 Dec 2024 at 09:15:48 GMT, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/12/2024 08:16, John Hill wrote:
You're not an old dog until you can't learn new tricks.
You may officially drop the "Old" from Old John now! ;-)
Thank you for the offer, but there is another "John" that posts
and I don't
want us to be confused.
Old John.
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to >see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >reviews.
Cheers,
Ian
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 09:41:53 -0000 (UTC), John Hill
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 12 Dec 2024 at 09:15:48 GMT, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/12/2024 08:16, John Hill wrote:
You're not an old dog until you can't learn new tricks.
You may officially drop the "Old" from Old John now! ;-)
Thank you for the offer, but there is another "John" that posts
Me? I could either stop or officially change my 'nym should you want
me to?
and I don't
want us to be confused.
Okay, that would be one of us.
Me, I'm always a little confused. It's a rather large, complex,
complicated cosmos and it has a tremendously huge number of moving
parts to keep track of.
Merry Chhristmas and a Happy New Year.
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:28:49 +0000, Ian McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to >> see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to
convert, now not seeing it.
Hey! Thank you.
I never knew Spotlight did stuff like those. Now I have even more fun
toys to play with.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually
gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate
reviews.
Sorry, but my most up-to-date OS is 15.1.1, I think and your little
toy works fine on that one. Also on 14.3 but I don't suppose anyone
cares about 14.3 any more?
Cheers,
Ian
Merry Christmas and as happy a New Year as possible and thank you for
my machine's new tricks.
I wonder how I missed this for so long?
Ian McCall <[email protected]> writes:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate reviews.
Just updated to 15.2 and it works OK for me.
On 12 Dec 2024, Alan B wrote
(in article<vje731$21s15$[email protected]>):
Ian McCall <[email protected]> writes:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to
see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >> > convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >> > just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >> > gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >> > reviews.
Just updated to 15.2 and it works OK for me.
Be careful! I was working with Freeform and jotted down, longhand using my Apple Pencil, 45x45. To my surprise, it automatically wrote the answer underneath in an approximation to my handwriting. To my even greater surprise, it got the arithmetic wrong, and filled in 45x45=2,070
On 2024-12-16, Martin S Taylor <[email protected]S> wrote:
On 12 Dec 2024, Alan B wrote
(in article<vje731$21s15$[email protected]>):
Ian McCall <[email protected]> writes:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to
see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >>>> convert, now not seeing it.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >>>> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >>>> gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >>>> reviews.
Just updated to 15.2 and it works OK for me.
Be careful! I was working with Freeform and jotted down, longhand using my >> Apple Pencil, 45x45. To my surprise, it automatically wrote the answer
underneath in an approximation to my handwriting. To my even greater
surprise, it got the arithmetic wrong, and filled in 45x45=2,070
2070 is actually (45 x 45) + 45
Is there any significance in that I wonder. I think I'll stick to my the
Calc app ;-)
Be careful! I was working with Freeform and jotted down, longhand using my Apple Pencil, 45x45. To my surprise, it automatically wrote the
answer underneath in an approximation to my handwriting. To my even greater surprise, it got the arithmetic wrong, and filled in 45x45=2,070
2070 is actually (45 x 45) + 45
Is there any significance in that I wonder. I think I'll stick to my the Calc app ;-)
My guess is that it misread one of the 45s as 46.
On 15 Dec 2024 at 10:30:16 GMT, "John" <[email protected]rd> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:28:49 +0000, Ian McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to >>> see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >>> convert, now not seeing it.
Hey! Thank you.
I never knew Spotlight did stuff like those. Now I have even more fun
toys to play with.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >>> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >>> gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >>> reviews.
Sorry, but my most up-to-date OS is 15.1.1, I think and your little
toy works fine on that one. Also on 14.3 but I don't suppose anyone
cares about 14.3 any more?
Cheers,
Ian
Merry Christmas and as happy a New Year as possible and thank you for
my machine's new tricks.
I wonder how I missed this for so long?
With great ease, if my experience is any guide. Back in the Good Old Days >things were simpler and theere was a time when I actually understood what was >going on "under the hood" of a Mac. But that went out of the window with OSX.
Nowadays I doubt that I actually use, or even know about, more than 10% of the >features and facilities available in MacOS, or indeed in any other major piece >of software.
Old John.
On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:09:41 -0000 (UTC), John Hill
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2024 at 10:30:16 GMT, "John" <[email protected]rd> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:28:49 +0000, Ian McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
Just trying it now - do a simple one, like cmd-space and then 5*5 - used to
see the answer, now not happening. Same for “£500 in USD” - used to >>>> convert, now not seeing it.
Hey! Thank you.
I never knew Spotlight did stuff like those. Now I have even more fun
toys to play with.
Any documented change in behaviour -meant- to be happening here and I’ve >>>> just missed the instructions? Will be quite annoyed if this has actually >>>> gone, but I’ve not heard mention of it before in any release candidate >>>> reviews.
Sorry, but my most up-to-date OS is 15.1.1, I think and your little
toy works fine on that one. Also on 14.3 but I don't suppose anyone
cares about 14.3 any more?
Cheers,
Ian
Merry Christmas and as happy a New Year as possible and thank you for
my machine's new tricks.
I wonder how I missed this for so long?
With great ease, if my experience is any guide. Back in the Good Old Days
things were simpler and theere was a time when I actually understood what was
going on "under the hood" of a Mac. But that went out of the window with OSX.
Yes, well, back in the past I worked in Unixy shops with the Admin
bunch using Win-PC's and with other stuff scattered about so I deeply
learned those systems. Mac's were restricted to the graphics teams and Branding and maybe the odd manager - who had a secretary so his
machine having a foreign accent wasn't an issue for him.
I only started using a MacBook in 2007 when I bought the wife one.
She liked it. I got confused a lot as many buttons weren't where they
were "supposed to be" and sis things they weren't supposed to and some
of the names Apple used for stuff were deliberately made obscure to differentiate them from Mickey's Stuff. The wife didn't care. Her MB
was *her* first personal, wholly-owned-by-her machine so she got used
to Apple's little foibles extremely quickly. That it was different
from the house's Windosed machine never bothered her. She was also terrifically smart, which helped.
I got to be able to fix *some* issues on her Mac (often with the help
of you folk) but I never did *explore* the thing the way I did on
Windosed boxes. I never had the time. I never took it apart, either,
which I did with other boxes.
So there are probably *millions* of cool tools and tricks that I'll
never find out. Many of which could probably make life a bit simpler,
easier and more fun.
Nowadays I doubt that I actually use, or even know about, more than 10% of the
features and facilities available in MacOS, or indeed in any other major piece
of software.
Well, I now do the things I do and rarely extend myself outside of
my comfortable shell of limited skills and knowledge, which is one
reason that I found the Finder tricks so damned cool.
I did know that you could do those sorts of things on the Google
search page but I hate using Google so I mostly didn't. My loss. :)
Still, it's nice to know that the Even Older John can learn new
stuff.
Thanks, everyone and Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all.
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