• =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Apple=E2=80=99s_longevity_by_design?=

    From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Thu Jul 4 09:53:22 2024
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    On 04/07/2024 09:41, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 1:20:18 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:

    hoakley July 4, 2024
    Apple’s longevity by design
    That article refers to one of Apple's own documents.

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    “Designing the best, longest-lasting products in the world requires
    striking a balance between durability and repairability, while providing
    ongoing software updates — and we’re constantly looking for new and
    innovative ways to accomplish that mission.”

    John Ternus, Senior Vice President of Hardware Engineering

    Read on, here:-

    https://support.apple.com/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/otherassets/programs/Longevity_by_Design.pdf

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    I have, here on my desk, a 24 inch iMac running Linux Mint.
    The hardware was manufactured in 2006 and it works just fine!

    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :)

    Ha! 🙂

    What Terminal command can I use to determine the size of the current
    hard drive?

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Jul 4 10:05:22 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 04/07/2024 09:53, David Brooks wrote:
    On 04/07/2024 09:41, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 1:20:18 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <[email protected]>:

    hoakley July 4, 2024
    Apple’s longevity by design
    That article refers to one of Apple's own documents.

    =

    “Designing the best, longest-lasting products in the world requires
    striking a balance between durability and repairability, while providing >>> ongoing software updates — and we’re constantly looking for new and
    innovative ways to accomplish that mission.”

    John Ternus, Senior Vice President of Hardware Engineering

    Read on, here:-

    https://support.apple.com/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/otherassets/programs/Longevity_by_Design.pdf

    =

    I have, here on my desk, a 24 inch iMac running Linux Mint.
    The hardware was manufactured in 2006 and it works just fine!

    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :)

    Ha! 🙂

    What Terminal command can I use to determine the size of the current
    hard drive?

    I tried ..... system_profiler SPHardwareDataType

    And was told "Command not found"!

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to FromTheRafters on Thu Jul 4 12:34:49 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 04/07/2024 11:36, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking Snit wrote :
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 1:20:18 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <[email protected]>:

    hoakley July 4, 2024
    Apple’s longevity by design
    That article refers to one of Apple's own documents.

    =

    “Designing the best, longest-lasting products in the world requires
    striking a balance between durability and repairability, while providing >>> ongoing software updates — and we’re constantly looking for new and
    innovative ways to accomplish that mission.”

    John Ternus, Senior Vice President of Hardware Engineering

    Read on, here:-

    https://support.apple.com/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/otherassets/programs/Longevity_by_Design.pdf

    =

    I have, here on my desk, a 24 inch iMac running Linux Mint.
    The hardware was manufactured in 2006 and it works just fine!

    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :)

    Maybe your engraver is just too small for the metal joining task.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_stir_welding

    Thanks for the education! 🙂 That is something new to me.

    I suspect they are using such equipment to build this:-

    https://formationplastics.co.uk/our-biggest-project-yet/

    --
    David
    My vote cast!

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Thu Jul 4 20:58:52 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 04/07/2024 20:09, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 1:53:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:

    On 04/07/2024 09:41, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 1:20:18 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <[email protected]>:

    hoakley July 4, 2024
    Apple’s longevity by design
    That article refers to one of Apple's own documents.

    =

    “Designing the best, longest-lasting products in the world requires
    striking a balance between durability and repairability, while providing >>>> ongoing software updates — and we’re constantly looking for new and >>>> innovative ways to accomplish that mission.”

    John Ternus, Senior Vice President of Hardware Engineering

    Read on, here:-

    https://support.apple.com/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/otherassets/programs/Longevity_by_Design.pdf

    =

    I have, here on my desk, a 24 inch iMac running Linux Mint.
    The hardware was manufactured in 2006 and it works just fine!

    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :)

    Ha! 🙂

    What Terminal command can I use to determine the size of the current
    hard drive?

    This should work:

    df -h

    Thank you! That shows a number of figures - I'm guessing it's a nominal
    500GB drive

    You can also try this:

    diskutil info -all

    Did you mean dskutil?

    You can scroll up and down on that, or get one page at a time with this:

    diskutil info -all | more

    Both will give you more than you asked for.

    Thanks for helping!

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Thu Jul 4 22:50:11 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 04/07/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 12:58:52 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:


    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :) >>>>
    Ha! 🙂

    What Terminal command can I use to determine the size of the current
    hard drive?

    This should work:

    df -h

    Thank you! That shows a number of figures - I'm guessing it's a nominal
    500GB drive

    You are welcome.

    You can also try this:

    diskutil info -all

    Did you mean dskutil?

    No. Works just as written.

    I've sent you the result of my Terminal instruction by email.
    Something isn't quite right! :-(

    You may post that image here if you wish.

    You can scroll up and down on that, or get one page at a time with this: >>>
    diskutil info -all | more

    Both will give you more than you asked for.

    Thanks for helping!

    My pleasure.

    You're a good man, Snit! 😀

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Fri Jul 5 07:55:15 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 05/07/2024 02:39, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 2:50:11 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:

    On 04/07/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 12:58:52 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <[email protected]>:


    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :)

    Ha! 🙂

    What Terminal command can I use to determine the size of the current >>>>>> hard drive?

    This should work:

    df -h

    Thank you! That shows a number of figures - I'm guessing it's a nominal >>>> 500GB drive

    You are welcome.

    You can also try this:

    diskutil info -all

    Did you mean dskutil?

    No. Works just as written.

    I've sent you the result of my Terminal instruction by email.
    Something isn't quite right! :-(

    You may post that image here if you wish.

    Ah, I did not know this was your Linux machine. Try:

    df -H

    Let me know if that works for you please. I do not have Linux available easily
    right now.

    Yes - that gives me detail ogf the hard drive.

    Thank you! :-D

    You can scroll up and down on that, or get one page at a time with this: >>>>>
    diskutil info -all | more

    Both will give you more than you asked for.

    Thanks for helping!

    My pleasure.

    You're a good man, Snit! 😀

    As are you.

    Indeed! 😀

    I'm going to re-read here:- https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#2-a-brief-history-lesson

    I wanted to know how to find my Apple Serial Number using Terminal (on
    my old Mac running Linux Mint)

    I've still not done that! :-(

    Maybe next time it rains!

    --
    David

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Fri Jul 5 10:42:25 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 05/07/2024 08:22, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 11:55:15 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <[email protected]>:

    On 05/07/2024 02:39, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 2:50:11 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <[email protected]>:

    On 04/07/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
    On Jul 4, 2024 at 12:58:52 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <[email protected]>:


    If the hard drive ever dies be happy Gremlin can solder a fix for it. :)

    Ha! 🙂

    What Terminal command can I use to determine the size of the current >>>>>>>> hard drive?

    This should work:

    df -h

    Thank you! That shows a number of figures - I'm guessing it's a nominal >>>>>> 500GB drive

    You are welcome.

    You can also try this:

    diskutil info -all

    Did you mean dskutil?

    No. Works just as written.

    I've sent you the result of my Terminal instruction by email.
    Something isn't quite right! :-(

    You may post that image here if you wish.

    Ah, I did not know this was your Linux machine. Try:

    df -H

    Let me know if that works for you please. I do not have Linux available easily
    right now.

    Yes - that gives me detail ogf the hard drive.

    Thank you! :-D

    Happy it helped.

    :-D

    You can scroll up and down on that, or get one page at a time with this:

    diskutil info -all | more

    Both will give you more than you asked for.

    Thanks for helping!

    My pleasure.

    You're a good man, Snit! 😀

    As are you.

    Indeed! 😀

    I'm going to re-read here:-
    https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#2-a-brief-history-lesson

    I wanted to know how to find my Apple Serial Number using Terminal (on
    my old Mac running Linux Mint)

    I've still not done that! :-(

    Maybe next time it rains!

    I found this:

    sudo dmidecode -t system | grep Serial

    Yay! 😅 *That worked*!

    I then used THIS facility to identify my iMac: https://support.apple.com/en-asia/108054#:

    iMac (24-inch, Mid 2007)
    Purchase Date: March 2008
    Serial Number: ******DNX89

    I purchased this item from eBay when my similar 2009 iMac crashed and
    burned. I still have many spare parts if/when required!

    And this:

    ioreg -l | grep IOPlatformSerialNumber

    This did NOT work - 'command not found'

    I have not used either.

    Understood.

    Many thanks once more, Snit! 🙂

    --
    David

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Snit on Sat Jul 6 07:20:10 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 05/07/2024 02:39, Snit wrote:

    <snip>

    Let me know if that works for you please. I do not have Linux available easily
    right now.

    I always have access to a Live USB Linux, (on my general keyring) as you
    never know when such things come in handy, even on an Intel Mac.

    Managing partitions, checking / fixing filesystems, accessing date from
    an otherwise un-bootable PC.

    Cheers, T i m

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  • From T i m@21:1/5 to Snit on Sat Jul 6 21:19:43 2024
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 06/07/2024 08:40, Snit wrote:

    <snip>
    I used to have Puppy Linux at the ready for a lot of that.

    Whilst I have tried / used that several times in the past, I've found it
    a bit too 'weird' as a proper tool.

    A bit like Chrome OS after Win/Lin/Mac etc.

    I mean, Chrome OS is probably ok, but maybe only if it fits with a very
    small sub-set of what you might be used to.

    Cheers, T i m

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