Hi

I posted a couple of times - 22/03 - on this still ongoing issue.

Briefly, Daughter's 13" 2012 MBPro had a 2TB SSD installed about 2 years
ago. It has worked just fine until the last 2 months when all sorts of stability/booting issues started. I put the HD into another 2 MBP's and
the issue remains. So I am beginning to believe something has happened
to the HD :-)

I am now considering just replacing it and going again... when a little
nagging doubt arose. The HD recently ticked over the 1.1TB used mark so
I am wondering... can a 2012 MBP actually handle >1TB of data and is it
just borking out now because of that?

What do you's think - possible ?

I dont know anyone else who has a 2TB drive in one - haven't seen any on
eBay either. And I also have never had an SSD drive just "fail" like this.

She wants the large HD so she can have instant access to her huge photo
library - no external HD ! No iCloud ("I'm not paying then £8.99 a
month!") and a newer machine with 2TB is out of budget (unless dad gets
his wallet out!!)

Thoughts and ideas very welcome

JohnB

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On 28/05/2024 16:40, David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/05/2024 15:44, jbrennand wrote:

Hi

I posted a couple of times - 22/03 - on this still ongoing issue.

Briefly, Daughter's 13" 2012 MBPro had a 2TB SSD installed about 2
years ago. It has worked just fine until the last 2 months when all
sorts of stability/booting issues started.  I put the HD into another
2 MBP's and the issue remains.  So I am beginning to believe something
has happened to the HD :-)

I am now considering just replacing it and going again... when a
little nagging doubt arose.  The HD recently ticked over the 1.1TB
used mark so I am wondering... can a 2012 MBP actually handle >1TB of
data and is it just borking out now because of that?

What do you's think - possible ?

I dont know anyone else who has a 2TB drive in one - haven't seen any
on eBay either.  And I also have never had an SSD drive just "fail"
like this.

She wants the large HD so she can have instant access to her huge
photo library - no external HD ! No iCloud ("I'm not paying then £8.99
a month!") and a newer machine with 2TB is out of budget (unless dad
gets his wallet out!!)

Thoughts and ideas very welcome

JohnB

No ideas other than what about an external NAS?

Good thought... I will look at options :-)

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jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi

I posted a couple of times - 22/03 - on this still ongoing issue.

Briefly, Daughter's 13" 2012 MBPro had a 2TB SSD installed about 2 years
ago. It has worked just fine until the last 2 months when all sorts of stability/booting issues started. I put the HD into another 2 MBP's and
the issue remains. So I am beginning to believe something has happened
to the HD :-)

I am now considering just replacing it and going again... when a little nagging doubt arose. The HD recently ticked over the 1.1TB used mark so
I am wondering... can a 2012 MBP actually handle >1TB of data and is it
just borking out now because of that?

That sounds extremely doubtful. There are some formatting limits at 2TB
(old DOS-style MBR partition tables top out, >2TB needs a GPT partition
table) but you have to decide those before formatting the drive.

Pro video editing people with a gazillion terabytes of data would likely
have screamed a very long time ago if there was any such limit.

I dont know anyone else who has a 2TB drive in one - haven't seen any on
eBay either. And I also have never had an SSD drive just "fail" like this.

SSDs do wear out, or maybe it was faulty? There are tools like Samsung Magician which are able to inspect a drive and tell you problems. More generically you can also read the SMART data which may offer clues.

What make/model of SSD is it? If it was a name brand I wouldn't have
expected wear out from light domestic use, but who knows with cheaper
shadier brands.

If it's acting up, I'd likely not want to trust it with data I care about
so, even if it's not dead, time to pension it off to some secondary purpose?

Theo

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On 28 May 2024 at 15:44:46 BST, jbrennand wrote:

Hi

I posted a couple of times - 22/03 - on this still ongoing issue.

Briefly, Daughter's 13" 2012 MBPro had a 2TB SSD installed about 2 years
ago. It has worked just fine until the last 2 months when all sorts of stability/booting issues started. I put the HD into another 2 MBP's and
the issue remains. So I am beginning to believe something has happened
to the HD :-)

I am now considering just replacing it and going again... when a little nagging doubt arose. The HD recently ticked over the 1.1TB used mark so
I am wondering... can a 2012 MBP actually handle >1TB of data and is it
just borking out now because of that?

What do you's think - possible ?

I dont know anyone else who has a 2TB drive in one - haven't seen any on
eBay either. And I also have never had an SSD drive just "fail" like this.

She wants the large HD so she can have instant access to her huge photo library - no external HD ! No iCloud ("I'm not paying then £8.99 a
month!") and a newer machine with 2TB is out of budget (unless dad gets
his wallet out!!)

Thoughts and ideas very welcome

JohnB

Doubt very much it's to do with the capacity of the HD. FWIW I fitted a 4TB
SSD as a second disk on a 2010 Mac Mini and it works fine, 80% full.
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Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi

I posted a couple of times - 22/03 - on this still ongoing issue.

Briefly, Daughter's 13" 2012 MBPro had a 2TB SSD installed about 2 years
ago. It has worked just fine until the last 2 months when all sorts of stability/booting issues started. I put the HD into another 2 MBP's and
the issue remains. So I am beginning to believe something has happened
to the HD :-)

I am now considering just replacing it and going again... when a little nagging doubt arose. The HD recently ticked over the 1.1TB used mark so
I am wondering... can a 2012 MBP actually handle >1TB of data and is it
just borking out now because of that?

What do you's think - possible ?

I dont know anyone else who has a 2TB drive in one - haven't seen any on
eBay either. And I also have never had an SSD drive just "fail" like this.

She wants the large HD so she can have instant access to her huge photo library - no external HD ! No iCloud ("I'm not paying then �8.99 a
month!") and a newer machine with 2TB is out of budget (unless dad gets
his wallet out!!)

Thoughts and ideas very welcome

Have you tried taking off all data, reformatting the thing,
and writing it all back?

Jan

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On 28/05/2024 15:44, jbrennand wrote:

Hi

Thoughts and ideas very welcome

JohnB

Thanks to all who have replied - all very helpful - this is what we want
to do but I still have a few Q's.

I have received a new Crucial SSD and initialised it in APES ready for
the next step but a thought occurs - her old drive is High sierra and
formatted as MacOS Journaled - is this going to cause issues when
transferring?

She is now trying to do a CCC backup of the disk (I always use that
myself when upgrading HD's - I hate TM!) and then transfer the BU to the
new drive in the MBP - is that ok? Can it be done in an external caddy
first ?

If she cant get a CCC back up for the same crash out reasons... we could
do a clean install of HS or Catalina (??) on the new drive and then just
drag and drop the missing Apps and Data files - but will the disk format
kibosh that ?

Thoughts welcome again

Thanks again JohnB

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jbrennand <[email protected]> wrote:

On 31/05/2024 16:40, jbrennand wrote:

On 28/05/2024 15:44, jbrennand wrote:

I have received a new Crucial SSD and initialised it in APES ready for
the next step but a thought occurs - her old drive is High sierra and formatted as MacOS Journaled - is this going to cause issues when transferring?

To answer my own question - YES it would have caused issues !!

https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/62926-reverting-an-apfs-drive-to-hfs-the-easy-

way/

As it happens, I just did it the brute force way.
Boot in target mode, attach to a good old Mac, and reformat.
Next SuperDuper in a system, and it is good as new,

Jan

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On 31/05/2024 16:40, jbrennand wrote:

On 28/05/2024 15:44, jbrennand wrote:

I have received a new Crucial SSD and initialised it in APES ready for
the next step but a thought occurs - her old drive is High sierra and formatted as MacOS Journaled - is this going to cause issues when transferring?

To answer my own question - YES it would have caused issues !!

https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/62926-reverting-an-apfs-drive-to-hfs-the-easy-way/

JohnB

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