Have reached the point where I am going to "buy something" - what does an MBP offer that's better than an Air?
Have reached the point where I am going to "buy something" - what does an MBP offer that's better than an Air?
On 22 Apr 2024 at 06:26:25 BST, "Tyrone" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2024 at 8:31:25 AM EDT, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote: >>Thanks for the comments - helpful to know of others' experiences.
Have reached the point where I am going to "buy something" - what does an MBP
offer that's better than an Air?
The Air has 24GB RAM max. Which is plenty for most people. And a 13 inch or 15
inch screen.
The Pro has a much higher upside. Bigger screen, bigger CPU, bigger RAM and >> storage options. Also more ports (3 USB-C, HDMI and SDXC card slot).
Of course, all of this is more money too. I got the 16 inch M2 Pro CPU MacBook
Pro wih 32GB RAM only because I knew I needed to run Windows 11 Arm on it. >> Viewed in that light, I bought 2 very fast laptops. If not for needing
Windows, the 15 inch 24GB Air would have been fine for me. BTW Windows 11 runs
just fine on the Pro.
I also got a great deal on eBay on a barely used Pro instead on buying brand >> new from Apple.
Which is very common with Apple stuff. Lots of people have "buyer's remorse" >> (because of the high price) and after a couple months sell it on eBay. I got >> my 13 inch M1 16GB 1TB iPad Pro with magic keyboard a couple years ago the >> same way.
Will I be able to run Win11 under Parallels on an M2/M3 Air?
I'm certainly going for the 24gb RAM option.
On 22 Apr 2024 at 06:26:25 BST, "Tyrone" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2024 at 8:31:25 AM EDT, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
Have reached the point where I am going to "buy something" - what does an MBP
offer that's better than an Air?
The Air has 24GB RAM max. Which is plenty for most people. And a 13 inch or 15
inch screen.
The Pro has a much higher upside. Bigger screen, bigger CPU, bigger RAM and storage options. Also more ports (3 USB-C, HDMI and SDXC card slot).
Of course, all of this is more money too. I got the 16 inch M2 Pro CPU MacBook
Pro wih 32GB RAM only because I knew I needed to run Windows 11 Arm on it. Viewed in that light, I bought 2 very fast laptops. If not for needing Windows, the 15 inch 24GB Air would have been fine for me. BTW Windows 11 runs
just fine on the Pro.
I also got a great deal on eBay on a barely used Pro instead on buying brand
new from Apple.
Which is very common with Apple stuff. Lots of people have "buyer's remorse"Thanks for the comments - helpful to know of others' experiences.
(because of the high price) and after a couple months sell it on eBay. I got
my 13 inch M1 16GB 1TB iPad Pro with magic keyboard a couple years ago the same way.
Will I be able to run Win11 under Parallels on an M2/M3 Air?
I'm certainly going for the 24gb RAM option.
I can run Win11 on my M1 Mac as a VM under Parallels, VMware and UTM.
I'm currently just using the free version of VMware. I use Parallels and Liviable
for Linux VMs.
On 22 Apr 2024 at 07:45:58 BST, jeremy wrote:
I'm certainly going for the 24gb RAM option.
£400 for 16GB?! That's knocking on half the cost of a basic Air. Reminds me of
the early PC days . . .
Is there a decent appraisal of how much this extra RAM helps under different circumstances? I'd have thought for many users a decent SSD and the M-series 'unified' system smooths over relatively low amounts of RAM?
On 22 Apr 2024 at 09:28:12 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <[email protected]> wrote:
Am 22.04.24 um 09:03 schrieb RJH:
On 22 Apr 2024 at 07:45:58 BST, jeremy wrote:
I'm certainly going for the 24gb RAM option.
£400 for 16GB?! That's knocking on half the cost of a basic Air. Reminds me of
the early PC days . . .
Without a specific use-case this is rather a waste of money. The
Silicon-Architecture cannot be compared to classic boards. 16GB will do
it with a very high degree of probability over the useful life of an MBA.
Is there a decent appraisal of how much this extra RAM helps under different
circumstances? I'd have thought for many users a decent SSD and the M-series
'unified' system smooths over relatively low amounts of RAM?
That is what I experience with my mini with a M2pro and 16GB.
It's a kind of insurance I guess. Pay a little more now knowing that you you won't regret not buying enough in 2 years' time.
In original post I laid out the extent of what I want to be able to run - adding to that also Parallels so I can run Windows 11 - reasonable within 16gb
RAM?
In original post I laid out the extent of what I want to be able to run - adding to that also Parallels so I can run Windows 11 - reasonable within 16gb
RAM?
On 22 Apr 2024 at 14:47:35 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 22 Apr 2024 at 12:55:47 BST, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:So I would need the ARM version of Win11 - do you know where I would find that
In original post I laid out the extent of what I want to be able to run - >>> adding to that also Parallels so I can run Windows 11 - reasonable within 16gb
RAM?
Yes, no trouble on my M1/16gig. I was using win10/11 ARM release (comes
with its own 'rosetta' like ability to run Windows/Intel apps).
/ the format of the download? I am well aware I need to purchase licence key to activate. The only references I have found have been to an "insider version".
Just had a look and it appears that Parallels itself has a link within it for locating & downloading the Win11 for ARM - just want to make sure this isn't some esoteric software config I'm shooting for!
On 22 Apr 2024 at 14:47:35 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 22 Apr 2024 at 12:55:47 BST, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:So I would need the ARM version of Win11 - do you know where I would find that
In original post I laid out the extent of what I want to be able to run - >>> adding to that also Parallels so I can run Windows 11 - reasonable within 16gb
RAM?
Yes, no trouble on my M1/16gig. I was using win10/11 ARM release (comes
with its own 'rosetta' like ability to run Windows/Intel apps).
/ the format of the download? I am well aware I need to purchase licence key to activate. The only references I have found have been to an "insider version".
Just had a look and it appears that Parallels itself has a link within it for locating & downloading the Win11 for ARM - just want to make sure this isn't some esoteric software config I'm shooting for!
Oh and while I've got you Jamie, any recommendations for a "hub" so that I can
connect a new Air to an HDMI-cabled monitor?
On 23 Apr 2024 at 13:18:14 BST, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
Isn't W11 generally available for ARM? Appreciate this very specific question
is being posted in what may not be the most appropriate group :)
It's not, no - there's no general release of it. Qualcomm appear to have
an agreement with MS that they can't.
On 23 Apr 2024 at 12:24:02 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 22 Apr 2024 at 19:01:13 BST, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 22 Apr 2024 at 14:47:35 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 22 Apr 2024 at 12:55:47 BST, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>So I would need the ARM version of Win11 - do you know where I would find that
In original post I laid out the extent of what I want to be able to run - >>>>> adding to that also Parallels so I can run Windows 11 - reasonable within 16gb
RAM?
Yes, no trouble on my M1/16gig. I was using win10/11 ARM release (comes >>>> with its own 'rosetta' like ability to run Windows/Intel apps).
/ the format of the download? I am well aware I need to purchase licence key
to activate. The only references I have found have been to an "insider
version".
Just had a look and it appears that Parallels itself has a link within it for
locating & downloading the Win11 for ARM - just want to make sure this isn't
some esoteric software config I'm shooting for!
Yeah, that's the one. You might need an "insider" flag on a Microsoft
account, I forget what it's up to these days. I had one for a year or
so, then deleted it due to complete lack of use.
Got to "the inside" but cannot find a W11 ISO download for ARM - only this at present:
"With Windows 11 on Arm Insider Preview builds, you can create 64-bit Arm (Arm64) VMs in Hyper-V on Windows 11 Arm-based PCs. "
I'm assuming that this is what I would need to be able to run under Parallels?
It talks of downloading a VHDX file and then creating a Hyper-V VM.
Isn't W11 generally available for ARM? Appreciate this very specific question is being posted in what may not be the most appropriate group :)
Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2024 at 13:18:14 BST, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
Isn't W11 generally available for ARM? Appreciate this very specific question
is being posted in what may not be the most appropriate group :)
It's not, no - there's no general release of it. Qualcomm appear to have
an agreement with MS that they can't.
There are release *versions* (eg 23H2) but they're not publically
*released*. You have to get them from the Windows Update servers using a tool like CrystalFetch.
eg https://uupdump.net/known.php?q=category:w11-23h2
(that website makes you a script to build the ISO on Win/Mac/Linux, but it seems that Arm ISOs need a real Windows system to build. Seems like CrystalFetch handles it for you on a Mac)
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