• Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?

    From David Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 09:58:24 2023
    There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth.

    AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
    specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
    malicious websites, emails, and downloads.

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    The above statement is a bold claim, made here:- https://ibb.co/MZpBy63

    The claim is supported by Trend Micro. Screenshot - https://ibb.co/Zm7DnRY

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    Does anyone reading here know the REAL truth of the matter?

    I wonder!

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    Kind regards,
    David B.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed Mar 22 23:03:36 2023
    On 22/03/2023 09:58, David Brooks wrote:
    There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth.

    AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
    specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like malicious websites, emails, and downloads.

    =

    The above statement is a bold claim, made here:- https://ibb.co/MZpBy63

    The claim is supported by Trend Micro. Screenshot - https://ibb.co/Zm7DnRY

    =

    Does anyone reading here know the REAL truth of the matter?

    I wonder!

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    Subject: Re: Myth or fact? What is YOUR opinion?
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    On 2023-03-22, gtr <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mar 22, 2023 at 3:00:19 AM PDT, "David Brooks"
    <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a
    myth.

    I think you mean an "extreme rarity". The myth is, as stated by most Windows-centric loyalists, that Macs get viruses. They don't.

    They also don't often know the difference between an actual virus and
    malware which can be in the form of trojans, and are most often adware.

    AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
    specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
    malicious websites, emails, and downloads.

    Malware isn't usually considered a virus.

    Actually, viruses are a _type_ of malware.

    A computer *virus* is a type of malicious software that, when executed, replicates itself by modifying other computer programs and inserting its
    own code. The only OS X viruses in existence are proof-of-concepts
    written by security researchers to prove that it could be done. Only one
    so far in all of these years, named Oompa-Loompa (also called OSX/Oomp-A
    or Leap.A), actually fits the true definition of a virus - and even
    then, very loosely, because it was never actually able to spread in the
    wild over the internet. It was limited to local networks (like your home network) and couldn't spread over the internet. And it required the
    receiving computer's user to interactively click a link in iChat to
    download it to their computer, interactively open the downloaded file,
    and interactively supply administrator credentials to install it for it
    to be successful. For these reasons, it never was able to spread far,
    even on the few occasions it was found in the wild.

    The vast majority of macOS malware in the wild today are in the form of *trojans*: apps that pretend to be legitimate apps - typically pirated
    copies of commercial apps, or third-party apps downloaded from unsavory
    paces like CNET Downloads, VersionTracker, or MacUpdate with installers
    that have been stealthily modified by those download services to bundle
    malware with them.

    And the majority of such macOS trojan malware is *adware* that modifies
    the behavior of web browsers to spy on your browsing behavior and inject
    ads into pages displayed by the web browser.

    And *all* of them require the user to be tricked into *interactively* downloading and installing them, as well as *interactively* entering administrator credentials when prompted, to successfully infect a target
    Mac. In other words, they all rely on simple *social engineering* to work.

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    JR

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Fri Mar 24 06:04:21 2023
    On Friday, 24 March 2023 at 08:52:13 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
    On 24/03/2023 06:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 22.03.23 um 11:00 schrieb David Brooks:
    There's a myth that Macs don't get viruses - but it's just that: a myth. >>
    AVG Antivirus for Mac works in realtime to detect and remove Mac-
    specific malware. We'll also keep you safe from online threats, like
    malicious websites, emails, and downloads.

    Total bullshit.

    Possibly.

    Tell me, Joerg, if you do not use some form of AV software on your Mac,
    how would you, as the computer user, KNOW that your machine had been compromised?

    I guess that, like me, you are happy to let Apple manage what does or
    doesn't run on your machine from its headquarters in California!

    or just disconnect it from the network, use it only in a faraday cage.

    Seems like we have bigger problems with tik-tok and china.


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    David

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Tue Apr 4 05:01:38 2023
    On Sunday, 2 April 2023 at 21:04:15 UTC+1, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 02.04.23 um 19:47 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 02/04/2023 17:47, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 02.04.23 um 14:09 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 24/03/2023 14:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Is DB again smoking funny stuff?

    DB copied a question which was posted on the Apple Support Communities >>> website!

    Evidence? Yeas, here:- https://ibb.co/JvK59hS

    Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?

    If not, *your machine may have already been compromised*!

    Read here if you don't believe me! https://www.clamxav.com

    Judge and hangman are the same person ...

    Why does that stop you answering my question?

    "Do *YOU* use anti-malware software on YOUR Apple computer?"
    Yes. Open Source and free:

    *Brain 1.0*

    Not everyone has access to that software , and even if they do they won't know how to use it.

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