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    From Alan B@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 12:16:05 2023
    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on
    Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.
    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 16:51:52 2023
    Am 15.03.23 um 13:16 schrieb Alan B:
    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Thunderbird can do this on all platforms but only for e-mails. It does
    not make too much sense for Usenet. Quite often the messages are not
    downloaded or only when clicked. Only then a client is in the position
    to search the body of a message.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Mark on Wed Mar 15 21:40:55 2023
    Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15 12:16:05 +0000, Alan B said:

    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on
    Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Are you using Usenapp?

    Yes but I don’t think it supports filtering on content?

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Alan B on Wed Mar 15 22:01:53 2023
    On 2023-03-15 21:40:55 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15 12:16:05 +0000, Alan B said:

    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on
    Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Are you using Usenapp?

    Yes but I don’t think it supports filtering on content?

    Ah, ok. Just remembered Pineapple <https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/> and gave it a try. It
    works (seems to work) on Mojave here but may be 32bit I guess. Started downloading UCSM posts from 2008(!) from an Astraweb account I used to
    use. Seems I last used it around 7 or 8 years ago. I prepped a message
    to send but it disappeared and seems to maybe have some other odd
    behaviour... Don't think it'll do what you want though (pity).
    --
    Cheers ... Mark

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Alan B on Wed Mar 15 21:36:43 2023
    On 2023-03-15 12:16:05 +0000, Alan B said:

    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Are you using Usenapp?
    --
    Cheers ... Mark

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Wed Mar 15 23:16:10 2023
    On 15/03/2023 15:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 15.03.23 um 13:16 schrieb Alan B:
    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on
    Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Thunderbird can do this on all platforms but only for e-mails. It does
    not make too much sense for Usenet. Quite often the messages are not downloaded or only when clicked. Only then a client is in the position
    to search the body of a message.

    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Mar 15 19:51:08 2023
    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 16 06:48:10 2023
    Am 16.03.23 um 00:51 schrieb nospam:
    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Filtering can be done quite easily in this particular case. Trolls
    almost always show stable patterns as far as the headers are concerned.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 16 08:57:34 2023
    On 2023-03-15, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15 21:40:55 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15 12:16:05 +0000, Alan B said:

    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on >>>> Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Are you using Usenapp?

    Yes but I don’t think it supports filtering on content?

    Ah, ok. Just remembered Pineapple
    <https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/> and gave it a try. It
    works (seems to work) on Mojave here but may be 32bit I guess. Started downloading UCSM posts from 2008(!) from an Astraweb account I used to
    use. Seems I last used it around 7 or 8 years ago. I prepped a message
    to send but it disappeared and seems to maybe have some other odd behaviour... Don't think it'll do what you want though (pity).

    Yes the last released version 0.9 is a 32-bit Intel app but I might try
    it out on my Mojave VM just for the heck of it!

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Mar 16 08:49:01 2023
    On 15/03/2023 23:51, nospam wrote:
    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Perhaps that's because you don't understand the use of Suspicious Package?

    https://mothersruin.com/software/SuspiciousPackage/

    It intrigues me.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Mar 16 09:20:43 2023
    On 16/03/2023 05:48, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 16.03.23 um 00:51 schrieb nospam:
    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Filtering can be done quite easily in this particular case. Trolls
    almost always show stable patterns as far as the headers are concerned.

    You, too, may enjoy listening here:-

    https://macadmins.libsyn.com/episode-225-suspicious-apparencies

    It gave me confidence in the products he makes. :-)

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Mar 16 02:55:06 2023
    On Wednesday, 15 March 2023 at 23:16:12 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/03/2023 15:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 15.03.23 um 13:16 schrieb Alan B:
    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on
    Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Thunderbird can do this on all platforms but only for e-mails. It does
    not make too much sense for Usenet. Quite often the messages are not downloaded or only when clicked. Only then a client is in the position
    to search the body of a message.
    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    Content that a person has no interest in reading about.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Alan B on Thu Mar 16 11:04:15 2023
    Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Filtering on content makes sense only when you are doing off-line
    newsreading, and that is thoroughly old-fashioned, by now,
    (and even then it is hardly worthwhile)

    Jan

    --
    "Kill files are for the weak-willed"

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Alan B on Thu Mar 16 10:33:22 2023
    On 2023-03-16, Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15 21:40:55 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-03-15 12:16:05 +0000, Alan B said:

    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on >>>>> Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap >>>>> will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon >>>>> Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that >>>>> will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Are you using Usenapp?

    Yes but I don’t think it supports filtering on content?

    Ah, ok. Just remembered Pineapple >><https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/> and gave it a try. It
    works (seems to work) on Mojave here but may be 32bit I guess. Started
    downloading UCSM posts from 2008(!) from an Astraweb account I used to
    use. Seems I last used it around 7 or 8 years ago. I prepped a message
    to send but it disappeared and seems to maybe have some other odd
    behaviour... Don't think it'll do what you want though (pity).

    Yes the last released version 0.9 is a 32-bit Intel app but I might try
    it out on my Mojave VM just for the heck of it!

    Just installed it and its filtering seems limited to killfile author (which
    is quite useful of course). Also additional headers are limited to just organization. I was able to post and reply to a test message. I don't think I'll bother, especially as MacSOUP works well in Mojave.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to whisky-dave on Thu Mar 16 10:17:53 2023
    On 16/03/2023 09:55, whisky-dave wrote:
    On Wednesday, 15 March 2023 at 23:16:12 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/03/2023 15:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 15.03.23 um 13:16 schrieb Alan B:
    Using macOS Ventura only Hogwasher seems capable of filtering out
    messages based on message body content. Unison doesn't run too well on >>>> Ventura so I'm dismissing that for now. The iOS / iPadOS app Newstap
    will also perform this function and it can be made to work on Silicon
    Macs.

    Does anyone of any other macOS usenet clients that will do this?
    Failing that I guess I shoukl look for a Windows or Linux client that
    will run via Crossover/Wine/MacPorts etc.

    Thunderbird can do this on all platforms but only for e-mails. It does
    not make too much sense for Usenet. Quite often the messages are not
    downloaded or only when clicked. Only then a client is in the position
    to search the body of a message.
    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    Content that a person has no interest in reading about.

    Thank you. :-)

    Please cite any item(s) about which I have posted which falls into that category.

    --
    David

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Mar 16 11:45:20 2023
    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    --
    ^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

    <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 17 09:17:47 2023
    On 16 Mar 2023 at 11:45:20 GMT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    🤞🏻

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Alan B on Fri Mar 17 10:40:02 2023
    On 17/03/2023 09:17, Alan B wrote:
    On 16 Mar 2023 at 11:45:20 GMT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    🤞🏻

    I don't understand the 'cloak and dagger' stuff here in 'ucsm'.

    Have I misunderstood the purpose of this Usenet group?

    Do read here:-

    https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/newsgroup#:~:text=Usenet%20uses%20the%20Network%20News,enjoy%20connecting%20over%20shared%20interests.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Fri Mar 17 10:41:20 2023
    On 17/03/2023 10:34, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:

    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    But that doesn't take a content filter,

    Do YOU read my posts, Jan?

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Mar 17 11:34:22 2023
    Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:

    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    But that doesn't take a content filter,

    Jan

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Fri Mar 17 12:28:03 2023
    David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 17/03/2023 10:34, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:

    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    But that doesn't take a content filter,

    Do YOU read my posts, Jan?

    A read all posts...
    .... with a thumb on the spacebar, in some cases,

    Jan
    (who is good at speed reading)

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Fri Mar 17 13:22:24 2023
    On 17/03/2023 11:28, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 17/03/2023 10:34, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:

    nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <_ksQL.1082049$[email protected]>, David Brooks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    What type of content is it felt necessary to filter?

    yours

    Well said.

    But that doesn't take a content filter,

    Do YOU read my posts, Jan?

    A read all posts...
    .... with a thumb on the spacebar, in some cases,

    I sometimes forget that English is not your first language!

    Sorry ....

    Jan
    (who is good at speed reading)

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