• Re: Are zips really uncrackable?

    From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 07:44:23 2023
    Am 04.03.23 um 02:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:00:46 -0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random string via >>> my password manager which was great until they decided to sync the network >>> password with the local password on my machine. So when when I needed to >>> login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I had to type it in manually. >>
    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. :)

    Our brains are pretty shit really.

    Simply irrelevant for the survival of mankind.


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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Commander Kinsey on Sat Mar 4 11:14:12 2023
    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:04:48 -0000, J. J. Lodder:

    Mr. Man-wai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random
    string via my password manager which was great until they decided to
    sync the network password with the local password on my machine. So
    when when I needed to login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I
    had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. >>:)

    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,

    Are you telling me you can remember something like �Q%HarbE^7jaerH$j4w6j?

    Do read again what I wrote,

    Jan

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat Mar 4 11:14:13 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    Am 04.03.23 um 02:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:00:46 -0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random string via
    my password manager which was great until they decided to sync the network
    password with the local password on my machine. So when when I needed to >>> login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. :)

    Our brains are pretty shit really.

    Simply irrelevant for the survival of mankind.

    "I don't need to be able to outrun a bear"
    "It's good enough if I can outrun you"

    Jan

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 11:45:01 2023
    Am 04.03.23 um 11:14 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
    Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    Am 04.03.23 um 02:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:00:46 -0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random string via
    my password manager which was great until they decided to sync the network
    password with the local password on my machine. So when when I needed to >>>>> login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. :) >>>
    Our brains are pretty shit really.

    Simply irrelevant for the survival of mankind.

    "I don't need to be able to outrun a bear"
    "It's good enough if I can outrun you"

    Dummschwätzer.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Fri Mar 17 18:23:50 2023
    On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:14:12 -0000, J. J. Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:04:47 -0000, J. J. Lodder:

    Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2023-02-20 07:33, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    mechanic <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

    As long as people need to type in passwords they aren't going to
    use long and complicated strings.

    No excuse!

    And long passwords need not be difficult.
    1RoseByAnyOtherNameWillSmellAsSweet!
    will be just fine,

    Good, but insert a few numbers/spec chars in the middle too ... along
    with a misspelled word and caps in the "wrong" places ... and it will be >> >> as good as random where a dictionary+brute force attack occurs.

    Most sites insist nowadays on at least one digit,
    one capitalised letter, and one special sign.
    My example complies,

    The insistance is irritating. I make a nice easy to remember password to
    use everywhere, then along comes a place with yet one more requirement.
    If you have a different password for every single thing, people have to
    write them down, and there goes security. Mine are all in an unencrypted
    text file.

    Yes. You can make a small encrypted disk image though,
    (using Disk Utility) and put the file on that.
    Then you only need to remember the password for the passwords....

    Isn't it easier just to encrypt the file?

    I've seen them on postit notes on the side of people's
    monitors.

    Yes, French TV5 got hacked that way, sometime ago.
    They had the bright idea of showing their TV viewers
    how the worked in the studio.

    Easy enough mistake to make.

    Some viewer noted the yellow piece of paper
    with the master password, stuck on a screen,

    ROFL! Same happened with a photo of a Dell Windows license. Apparently those codes are important. I've never had a genuine license so I wouldn't know. I'm one of the 47% of the world that says fuck you to copyright.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Fri Mar 17 18:26:37 2023
    On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:45:01 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    Am 04.03.23 um 11:14 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
    Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    Am 04.03.23 um 02:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:00:46 -0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random string via
    my password manager which was great until they decided to sync the network
    password with the local password on my machine. So when when I needed to >>>>>> login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. :) >>>>
    Our brains are pretty shit really.

    Simply irrelevant for the survival of mankind.

    "I don't need to be able to outrun a bear"
    "It's good enough if I can outrun you"

    Dummschw�tzer.

    German is so much more expressive.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Fri Mar 17 18:24:53 2023
    On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:14:12 -0000, J. J. Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:04:48 -0000, J. J. Lodder:

    Mr. Man-wai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random
    string via my password manager which was great until they decided to
    sync the network password with the local password on my machine. So
    when when I needed to login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I
    had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings.
    :)

    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,

    Are you telling me you can remember something like �Q%HarbE^7jaerH$j4w6j?

    Do read again what I wrote,

    You only wrote:
    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,
    What exactly did I miss?

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Fri Mar 17 18:27:33 2023
    On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 06:44:23 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    Am 04.03.23 um 02:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:00:46 -0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random string via >>>> my password manager which was great until they decided to sync the network >>>> password with the local password on my machine. So when when I needed to >>>> login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I had to type it in manually. >>>
    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. :) >>
    Our brains are pretty shit really.

    Simply irrelevant for the survival of mankind.

    The cleverer you are the better your job, the more women you get, the more kids you have, the more likely your genes keep going.

    Please, stop fucking stupid ugly people, you're ruining evolution.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Commander Kinsey on Sat Mar 18 21:38:21 2023
    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:14:12 -0000, J. J. Lodder <[email protected]>:

    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:04:48 -0000, J. J. Lodder:

    Mr. Man-wai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random
    string via my password manager which was great until they decided to >> >> > sync the network password with the local password on my machine. So >> >> > when when I needed to login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I >> >> > had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. >> >>:)

    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,

    Are you telling me you can remember something like �Q%HarbE^7jaerH$j4w6j?

    Do read again what I wrote,

    You only wrote:
    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,
    What exactly did I miss?

    I can remember all of them, and none in particular,

    Jan

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Mon Mar 27 11:19:36 2023
    On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:38:21 -0000, J. J. Lodder <[email protected]> wrote:

    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:14:12 -0000, J. J. Lodder <[email protected]>: >>
    Commander Kinsey <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:04:48 -0000, J. J. Lodder:

    Mr. Man-wai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:

    At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random
    string via my password manager which was great until they decided to >> >> >> > sync the network password with the local password on my machine. So >> >> >> > when when I needed to login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I >> >> >> > had to type it in manually.

    You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings. >> >> >>:)

    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,

    Are you telling me you can remember something like �Q%HarbE^7jaerH$j4w6j? >> >
    Do read again what I wrote,

    You only wrote:
    No problem with that at all, for me.
    The problem is memorising a few particular ones,
    What exactly did I miss?

    I can remember all of them, and none in particular,

    Cannot parse sentence.

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