Basic USB connection sharing question:
My audio amp feeds audio to my MacBook via a USB2 connection,
(provided by a little Behringer A<-->D converter gubbins) from the
tape monitor line level output on the amp. The MacBook feeds audio
back by the same route to the amp via the tape monitor input.
I want to share the USB2 connection at the MacBook end to feed my old
iPhone 6+ running Airchord 2 beta so that it can output Airplay 2 to [wherever] without upsetting the Amp<-->USB2<-->MacBook bidirectional connection.
What do I need to do this, please? I already have an Anker USB2 powered
hub at the MacBook end providing its USB2 connection.
Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 26 Jan 2023 at 15:11:03 GMT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
Basic USB connection sharing question:
My audio amp feeds audio to my MacBook via a USB2 connection,
(provided by a little Behringer A<-->D converter gubbins) from the
tape monitor line level output on the amp. The MacBook feeds audio
back by the same route to the amp via the tape monitor input.
I want to share the USB2 connection at the MacBook end to feed my old
iPhone 6+ running Airchord 2 beta so that it can output Airplay 2 to
[wherever] without upsetting the Amp<-->USB2<-->MacBook bidirectional
connection.
What do I need to do this, please? I already have an Anker USB2 powered >>> hub at the MacBook end providing its USB2 connection.
Terminology issue, I think. There's no such thing as "usb sharing", only
host<->client connections.
Also I've no idea what you mean in your second paragraph.
OK.
As things stand I can use the USB connection from the amp to
the MacBook (my usual audio setup) ~OR~ from the amp to the
iPhone. I want to Airplay 2 my old Technics vinyl turntable via
the amp then through the phone similar to what Andy Hewitt does.
If I make the connection to the phone I then can't use that same
connection to carry audio output between the MacBook to the amp.
I'd just like to be able to do this without having to unplug and
replug the cable each time I switch from one to the other.
I could do it by splitting the audio from the turntable and going
separately from turntable to iPhone but then I'd need another
ADC and it's a bit of an ugly solution.
Maybe I'm trying to achieve the impossible.
MacBook -- usb2 -- Amp : this bit is fine.
What are you trying to do with the iPhone?
Cheers - Jaimie
On 26 Jan 2023 at 15:11:03 GMT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
Basic USB connection sharing question:
My audio amp feeds audio to my MacBook via a USB2 connection,
(provided by a little Behringer A<-->D converter gubbins) from the
tape monitor line level output on the amp. The MacBook feeds audio
back by the same route to the amp via the tape monitor input.
I want to share the USB2 connection at the MacBook end to feed my old iPhone 6+ running Airchord 2 beta so that it can output Airplay 2 to [wherever] without upsetting the Amp<-->USB2<-->MacBook bidirectional connection.
What do I need to do this, please? I already have an Anker USB2 powered hub at the MacBook end providing its USB2 connection.
Terminology issue, I think. There's no such thing as "usb sharing", only host<->client connections.
Also I've no idea what you mean in your second paragraph.
MacBook -- usb2 -- Amp : this bit is fine.
What are you trying to do with the iPhone?
Cheers - Jaimie
Jason H <[email protected]> wrote:
Caveat not sure I completely understand the connection, but... A USB
port can share multiple USB connections via a USB hub. Just search USB
2.0 hub on Amazon and, hopefully, a picture alone will point you at a solution.
If a £6 hub can do:
[amp]--<->--[hub]--<->--[Macbook]
|
+-->--[iPhone]
Then I'll give it a try! Thank you, Jason.
On 1/26/23 20:15, Sn!pe wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 26 Jan 2023 at 15:11:03 GMT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
Basic USB connection sharing question:
My audio amp feeds audio to my MacBook via a USB2 connection,
(provided by a little Behringer A<-->D converter gubbins) from the
tape monitor line level output on the amp. The MacBook feeds audio
back by the same route to the amp via the tape monitor input.
I want to share the USB2 connection at the MacBook end to feed my old
iPhone 6+ running Airchord 2 beta so that it can output Airplay 2 to
[wherever] without upsetting the Amp<-->USB2<-->MacBook bidirectional
connection.
What do I need to do this, please? I already have an Anker USB2 powered >>> hub at the MacBook end providing its USB2 connection.
Terminology issue, I think. There's no such thing as "usb sharing", only >> host<->client connections.
Also I've no idea what you mean in your second paragraph.
OK.
As things stand I can use the USB connection from the amp to
the MacBook (my usual audio setup) ~OR~ from the amp to the
iPhone. I want to Airplay 2 my old Technics vinyl turntable via
the amp then through the phone similar to what Andy Hewitt does.
If I make the connection to the phone I then can't use that same
connection to carry audio output between the MacBook to the amp.
I'd just like to be able to do this without having to unplug and
replug the cable each time I switch from one to the other.
I could do it by splitting the audio from the turntable and going separately from turntable to iPhone but then I'd need another
ADC and it's a bit of an ugly solution.
Maybe I'm trying to achieve the impossible.
MacBook -- usb2 -- Amp : this bit is fine.
What are you trying to do with the iPhone?
Cheers - Jaimie
Caveat not sure I completely understand the connection, but... A USB
port can share multiple USB connections via a USB hub. Just search USB
2.0 hub on Amazon and, hopefully, a picture alone will point you at a solution.
Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:
Jason H <[email protected]> wrote:
Caveat not sure I completely understand the connection, but... A USB
port can share multiple USB connections via a USB hub. Just search USB 2.0 hub on Amazon and, hopefully, a picture alone will point you at a solution.
If a £6 hub can do:
[amp]--<->--[hub]--<->--[Macbook]
|
+-->--[iPhone]
Then I'll give it a try! Thank you, Jason.
It can't. USB connections can attach multiple 'devices' via a hub, but only one 'host'. The amp is a device, the Macbook and iPhone are both hosts.
One device to two hosts doesn't go.
Your only options are to do it in the analogue audio domain (which needs another A to D of some kind), or to do some kind of software streaming from the Macbook to the iPhone (like screen sharing or similar).
AirPlay is Apple's preferred way of streaming, but I'm not sure iPhones can receive (they can send). If AirPlay won't do it, probably there's some
other software that can.
Theo
Theo <[email protected]> wrote:
Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:
Jason H <[email protected]> wrote:
Caveat not sure I completely understand the connection, but... A USB
port can share multiple USB connections via a USB hub. Just search USB >>>> 2.0 hub on Amazon and, hopefully, a picture alone will point you at a
solution.
If a £6 hub can do:
[amp]--<->--[hub]--<->--[Macbook]
|
+-->--[iPhone]
Then I'll give it a try! Thank you, Jason.
It can't. USB connections can attach multiple 'devices' via a hub, but only >> one 'host'. The amp is a device, the Macbook and iPhone are both hosts.
One device to two hosts doesn't go.
Your only options are to do it in the analogue audio domain (which needs
another A to D of some kind), or to do some kind of software streaming from >> the Macbook to the iPhone (like screen sharing or similar).
AirPlay is Apple's preferred way of streaming, but I'm not sure iPhones can >> receive (they can send). If AirPlay won't do it, probably there's some
other software that can.
Theo
I thought it sounded too good to be true. :(
Splitting the signal in the analogue audio domain seems to
be the way to go - at least it's clean and simple that way.
Thanks, Theo, I'll chalk up a win for old fashioned analogue.
Andy Hewitt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hmm, not sure what you're actually trying to achieve here?
I'm just playing knitting really. When I read what you've done with
your turntable->Behringer->iPhone6 setup I thought "hmm, I've
got all that stuff..." and now I've gone down a rabbithole.
If I do exactly what you have with the kit that I presently have it
means disconnecting the turntable and amp from my MacBook.
That's my main audio setup.
If You have the Behringer UFO202 that I have, then you could try just
taking the signal off the output connections (basically an old fashioned
'monitor' output), and then just see if a Lightning hub device, plugged
into the iPhone, that has audio input would work - not sure if Airchord
would recognise that though.
That's a thought, I'll give that a try.
Otherwise, I'm wondering why are you bothering to use the iPhone at all,
wouldn't the Macbook just handle Airplay? (Assuming that as you've got
everything physically connected anyway, you're not trying to do this
from different rooms).
Yes, the MacBook can Airplay 2 to [wherever] but I needed something
to fiddle with; a game like this beats twiddling my thumbs! :)
On 26/01/2023 22:07, Sn!pe wrote:
Theo <[email protected]> wrote:
Sn!pe <[email protected]> wrote:
Jason H <[email protected]> wrote:
Caveat not sure I completely understand the connection, but... A USB >>>> port can share multiple USB connections via a USB hub. Just search USB >>>> 2.0 hub on Amazon and, hopefully, a picture alone will point you at a >>>> solution.
If a £6 hub can do:
[amp]--<->--[hub]--<->--[Macbook]
|
+-->--[iPhone]
Then I'll give it a try! Thank you, Jason.
It can't. USB connections can attach multiple 'devices' via a hub, but
only one 'host'. The amp is a device, the Macbook and iPhone are both
hosts. One device to two hosts doesn't go.
Your only options are to do it in the analogue audio domain (which
needs another A to D of some kind), or to do some kind of software
streaming from the Macbook to the iPhone (like screen sharing or
similar).
AirPlay is Apple's preferred way of streaming, but I'm not sure iPhones
can receive (they can send). If AirPlay won't do it, probably there's
some other software that can.
Theo
I thought it sounded too good to be true. :(
Splitting the signal in the analogue audio domain seems to
be the way to go - at least it's clean and simple that way.
Thanks, Theo, I'll chalk up a win for old fashioned analogue.
Hmm, not sure what you're actually trying to achieve here?
If You have the Behringer UFO202 that I have, then you could try just
taking the signal off the output connections (basically an old fashioned 'monitor' output), and then just see if a Lightning hub device, plugged
into the iPhone, that has audio input would work - not sure if Airchord
would recognise that though.
Otherwise, I'm wondering why are you bothering to use the iPhone at all, wouldn't the Macbook just handle Airplay? (Assuming that as you've got everything physically connected anyway, you're not trying to do this
from different rooms).
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