Bought off eBay. Cheap (very!) & bought for a bit of an experiment.
It's pretty crap though. Still... Two things though:
1. It's not supposed to have any internal memory - but it does. Playing
with it I took a couple of pictures before inserting the MiniSD card. I
took three pictures. I can view them on the device, but not on my
laptop. Also, there is a fourth picture which looks like it was taken
in the factory/packing facility (in China I assume). How to get these
off the device (only interested in the fourth one). Disasemble it?
Bought off eBay. Cheap (very!) & bought for a bit of an experiment.
It's pretty crap though. Still... Two things though:
1. It's not supposed to have any internal memory - but it does. Playing
with it I took a couple of pictures before inserting the MiniSD card. I
took three pictures. I can view them on the device, but not on my
laptop. Also, there is a fourth picture which looks like it was taken
in the factory/packing facility (in China I assume). How to get these
off the device (only interested in the fourth one). Disasemble it?
2. The included MicroSD card is supposed to be 32GB but reads as 33.57
- and that's with several pics and a couple of videos on it (resolution
is crap for both). Any reason it should read like that, or is that a
function of 'how it was programmed' (or whatever) rather than there
being a hard cut-off for capacity.
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Bought off eBay. Cheap (very!) & bought for a bit of an experiment.
It's pretty crap though. Still... Two things though:
1. It's not supposed to have any internal memory - but it does. Playing
with it I took a couple of pictures before inserting the MiniSD card. I
took three pictures. I can view them on the device, but not on my
laptop. Also, there is a fourth picture which looks like it was taken
in the factory/packing facility (in China I assume). How to get these
off the device (only interested in the fourth one). Disasemble it?
What happens when you plug the USB cable into a computer? Does it show up
as a digital camera (MTP or PTP) or some kind of storage device?
2. The included MicroSD card is supposed to be 32GB but reads as 33.57
- and that's with several pics and a couple of videos on it (resolution
is crap for both). Any reason it should read like that, or is that a
function of 'how it was programmed' (or whatever) rather than there
being a hard cut-off for capacity.
32*1000*1024*1024 = 33554432000
so it's 32,000 mebibytes (megabytes in powers of two)
However I'd be concerned that such a card might be fake and in reality just corrupt itself after you've written a few pictures. I'd replace it with a known good card. (there are testers you can run to confirm if a card can actually store what it says)
Theo
In article <tp40t2$1ako$[email protected]>, Mark
<[email protected]> wrote:
Bought off eBay. Cheap (very!) & bought for a bit of an experiment.
It's pretty crap though. Still... Two things though:
1. It's not supposed to have any internal memory - but it does. Playing
with it I took a couple of pictures before inserting the MiniSD card. I
took three pictures. I can view them on the device, but not on my
laptop. Also, there is a fourth picture which looks like it was taken
in the factory/packing facility (in China I assume). How to get these
off the device (only interested in the fourth one). Disasemble it?
the 7th photo in the ebay link shows a 'charing vhole/datawhole' port.
sounds promising :)
try connecting a usb cable to that and see if the computer sees the
camera's storage (which may also work for the cards too).
finder doesn't mount cameras, so either use apple photos, lightroom (or similar), image capture, or find a windows pc and use windows explorer.
Image Capture doesn't see it.
On 2023-01-04 15:12:36 +0000, [email protected] (Richard Tobin) said:
In article <tp445i$qcq$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
-- Richard
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
Format: MS-DOS (FAT12) (...not seen FAT12 before!)
In article <tp445i$qcq$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
-- Richard
On 4 Jan 2023 at 15:43:21 GMT, "Mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-01-04 15:12:36 +0000, [email protected] (Richard Tobin) said: >>
In article <tp445i$qcq$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
-- Richard
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
Not if it's got internal storage.
You could try wandering around the menus to see if there's a 'copy
internal to SD' or similar.
Cheers - Jaimie
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
It shows up as a USB volume. It's empty (when it opens - most times it
beachballs then self-ejects with the 'blah blah was not ejected
properly' warning).
Managed to do a 'Get Info'.
Format: MS-DOS (FAT12) (...not seen FAT12 before!)
Capacity: 244 KB
Available: 7 KB
Used: 238 KB
What does 'diskutil list' say about it?
It's possible there are hidden partitions or something on that device.
Another possible trick is that it shows up as a different device when you 'eject' it - this is used by 4G sticks which first show up as a CD of driver software, and then reappear as a networking device when the 'CD' is 'ejected'. That would show a change in the USB section of System Information.
Yes, I was surprised it came with a MicroSD card, particularly one of
that size (and it came with an USB adapter for it). I'll avoid using it.
A true 32GB card must be a handful of dollars, so it would rather eat into the profit margin. Although it's possible it's the worlds slowest card that they got from a junk heap for pennies.
Theo
It shows up as a USB volume. It's empty (when it opens - most times it beachballs then self-ejects with the 'blah blah was not ejected
properly' warning).
Managed to do a 'Get Info'.
Format: MS-DOS (FAT12) (...not seen FAT12 before!)
Capacity: 244 KB
Available: 7 KB
Used: 238 KB
Yes, I was surprised it came with a MicroSD card, particularly one of
that size (and it came with an USB adapter for it). I'll avoid using it.
In article <tp46qp$4ln$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
No, there was just a possibility that the camera only makes the
internal storage visible when there isn't a card inserted.
-- Richard
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
On 2023-01-04 17:30:35 +0000, [email protected] (Richard Tobin) said:
In article <tp46qp$4ln$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
No, there was just a possibility that the camera only makes the
internal storage visible when there isn't a card inserted.
-- Richard
Ah, ok.
Bought off eBay. Cheap (very!) & bought for a bit of an experiment.
It's pretty crap though. Still... Two things though:
1. It's not supposed to have any internal memory - but it does. Playing
with it I took a couple of pictures before inserting the MiniSD card. I
took three pictures. I can view them on the device, but not on my
laptop. Also, there is a fourth picture which looks like it was taken
in the factory/packing facility (in China I assume). How to get these
off the device (only interested in the fourth one). Disasemble it?
the 7th photo in the ebay link shows a 'charing vhole/datawhole' port. sounds promising :)
try connecting a usb cable to that and see if the computer sees the camera's storage (which may also work for the cards too).
finder doesn't mount cameras, so either use apple photos, lightroom (or similar), image capture, or find a windows pc and use windows explorer.
Some weird translations there!
I actually bought it from another
listing (I think the seller has multiple). Paid more than that too, but they've said they will refund me.
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-01-04 17:30:35 +0000, [email protected] (Richard Tobin) said: >>
In article <tp46qp$4ln$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
No, there was just a possibility that the camera only makes the
internal storage visible when there isn't a card inserted.
-- Richard
Ah, ok.
I suspect you have a really unusual, very cheaply made, camera. The
internal memory you see is most likely to be just a buffer for taking a few shots before it gets stored on media card (most cameras have these, and is usually enough for a handful of shots, which is why I’m thinking it’s just
that).
The fact that it’s not actually operating as expected might only confirm its very basic design.
I would such a device for my daughter many years ago, and it behaved much
as this one is, and was difficult to connect to a Mac. The only option for reading the card was to use a card reader outside the camera.
Personally I think you’re better off buying a proper (i.e. known branded) camera second hand. There are plenty of basic, easy to operate ones around that take half decent pictures, and would work without issue with your existing devices.
Managed to do a 'Get Info'.
Format: MS-DOS (FAT12) (...not seen FAT12 before!)
On 2023-01-04 19:14:17 +0000, Andy Hewitt <[email protected]> said:
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-01-04 17:30:35 +0000, [email protected] (Richard Tobin) said: >>>
In article <tp46qp$4ln$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
No, there was just a possibility that the camera only makes the
internal storage visible when there isn't a card inserted.
-- Richard
Ah, ok.
I suspect you have a really unusual, very cheaply made, camera. The
internal memory you see is most likely to be just a buffer for taking a few >> shots before it gets stored on media card (most cameras have these, and is >> usually enough for a handful of shots, which is why I’m thinking it’s just
that).
The fact that it’s not actually operating as expected might only confirm >> its very basic design.
I would such a device for my daughter many years ago, and it behaved much
as this one is, and was difficult to connect to a Mac. The only option for >> reading the card was to use a card reader outside the camera.
Personally I think you’re better off buying a proper (i.e. known branded) >> camera second hand. There are plenty of basic, easy to operate ones around >> that take half decent pictures, and would work without issue with your
existing devices.
That's cool. I only bought it as I wanted very 'lo-fi' quality
(something I've been experimenting with). I have other cameras though -
more than enough to not be spending more than ~£10 on another one! :)
Cheers ... Mark
On 2023-01-04 19:14:17 +0000, Andy Hewitt <[email protected]> said:
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-01-04 17:30:35 +0000, [email protected] (Richard Tobin) said: >>>
In article <tp46qp$4ln$[email protected]>,
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
Image Capture doesn't see it.
Did you plug it in without it having the SD card inserted?
Yes. Should it have been inserted for IC to see it the camera?
No, there was just a possibility that the camera only makes the
internal storage visible when there isn't a card inserted.
-- Richard
Ah, ok.
I suspect you have a really unusual, very cheaply made, camera. The
internal memory you see is most likely to be just a buffer for taking a few >> shots before it gets stored on media card (most cameras have these, and is >> usually enough for a handful of shots, which is why I’m thinking it’s just
that).
The fact that it’s not actually operating as expected might only confirm >> its very basic design.
I would such a device for my daughter many years ago, and it behaved much
as this one is, and was difficult to connect to a Mac. The only option for >> reading the card was to use a card reader outside the camera.
Personally I think you’re better off buying a proper (i.e. known branded) >> camera second hand. There are plenty of basic, easy to operate ones around >> that take half decent pictures, and would work without issue with your
existing devices.
That's cool. I only bought it as I wanted very 'lo-fi' quality
(something I've been experimenting with). I have other cameras though -
more than enough to not be spending more than ~£10 on another one! :)
Cheers ... Mark
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