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    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 2 14:02:01 2024
    Plusnet went down in he early house and has only just come back up despite saying 11:55 all day!

    Apparently there was some sort of upgrade at the exchange we are attached
    to and it has taken pretty well all day to fix.

    BT/EE offer a service whereby you fall back to a mobile signal (I think
    via a SIM in the modem/router).

    Anybody else provide a service like this? I am loathe to move from PN
    because their service is usually good and I definitely don't want to move
    back to BT whose service is appalling.

    Could I do something on a DIY basis if I ditched the PN Modem 2 for
    something else?

    I found that RDP went down as well, don't understand that at all, my home network was up just no Internet connection. I did manage to tether my
    mobile to the laptop but that only give me Internet on that machine.

    Suggestions welcome!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    This mess is what happens when you elect a Labutr government, in the end
    they will always run out of other people's money to spend.
    (Margaret Thatcher on her election in 1979)

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 2 16:45:59 2024

    I found that RDP went down as well, don't understand that at all, my
    home network was up just no Internet connection. I did manage to tether
    my mobile to the laptop but that only give me Internet on that machine.

    Suggestions welcome!



    Is that USB tethering, or have you set up a local hot spot ?

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 2 17:32:40 2024
    On 02/10/2024 in message <vdjprm$39mab$[email protected]> Abandoned Trolley wrote:



    I found that RDP went down as well, don't understand that at all, my home >>network was up just no Internet connection. I did manage to tether my >>mobile to the laptop but that only give me Internet on that machine.

    Suggestions welcome!



    Is that USB tethering, or have you set up a local hot spot ?

    The 'phone calls it a hot spot, I connect to it just like any other WiFi.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Every day is a good day for chicken, unless you're a chicken.

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Oct 2 18:56:59 2024
    On 02/10/2024 18:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 02/10/2024 in message <vdjprm$39mab$[email protected]> Abandoned
    Trolley wrote:



    I found that RDP went down as well, don't understand that at all, my
    home network was up just no Internet connection. I did manage to
    tether  my mobile to the laptop but that only give me Internet on
    that machine.

    Suggestions welcome!



    Is that USB tethering, or have you set up a local hot spot ?

    The 'phone calls it a hot spot, I connect to it just like any other WiFi.




    So .... what happens if you manage to get USB tethering to work ?


    And then try to share the internet connection ?

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 2 19:33:01 2024
    On 02/10/2024 in message <vdk1ha$3b5cu$[email protected]> Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    On 02/10/2024 18:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 02/10/2024 in message <vdjprm$39mab$[email protected]> Abandoned Trolley >>wrote:



    I found that RDP went down as well, don't understand that at all, my >>>>home network was up just no Internet connection. I did manage to tether  >>>>my mobile to the laptop but that only give me Internet on that machine. >>>>
    Suggestions welcome!



    Is that USB tethering, or have you set up a local hot spot ?

    The 'phone calls it a hot spot, I connect to it just like any other WiFi.




    So .... what happens if you manage to get USB tethering to work ?


    And then try to share the internet connection ?

    Only the laptop has WiFi, I'd need to either equip the desktops with WiFi
    or find a way to share the laptop connection, not sure how to do that?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Thanks for teaching me the meaning of plethora, it means a lot.

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 3 09:38:36 2024

    Only the laptop has WiFi, I'd need to either equip the desktops with
    WiFi or find a way to share the laptop connection, not sure how to do that?






    So ...


    From some computer or laptop, make a USB connection to the phone and
    then enable USB tethering - on my Samsung this is initiated on the phone

    From the same computer or laptop, make a (preferably wired) Ethernet connection to the rest of your LAN

    The next stage (which is where it all fails miserably) would be to share
    that internet connection, but for some reason I can’t see how to do that
    on Win11, although I did manage to get this to work with a couple of W10 machines some time ago

    I tried this last night and got nowhere, and bridging the 2 connections doesn’t seem to help much either :-\

    The other machines on the LAN need to be told that your tethered host is
    now the default gateway

    And ISTR at some point I may have manually edited the routing table on
    the Win10 machine, in which case "route print" from the command line
    might be a good place to start (you can add a persistent route to the
    table and force everything down the USB interface))

    And ... if you were looking for another rabbit hole to go down, try
    finding out something about a registry key called either "IsRouter" or "IsaRouter"

    Basically, I am fairly certain that theres a way of making this work
    without using WiFi at all

    That should keep you out of the pub for a day or two, and I would be
    interested to know if you manage to get it sorted out

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Thu Oct 3 11:00:36 2024
    On 02/10/2024 15:02, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    BT/EE offer a service whereby you fall back to a mobile signal (I think
    via a SIM in the modem/router).

    Anybody else provide a service like this? I am loathe to move from PN
    because their service is usually good and I definitely don't want to
    move back to BT whose service is appalling.

    BT own PlusNet so it's rather ironic that the PlusNet brewery holds
    better piss-ups, but that does seem to be most people's experience.

    It's all down to the router, really. Some routers allow you to have
    multiple WAN connections that can be used as alternative connections to
    the Internet or as parallel connections to increase bandwidth.

    My own router (a Draytek) has a DSL connection, an Ethernet connection,
    and USB ports that support (some models of) USB cellular modem. I don't
    know what you have, but it possibly does the same.

    The BT/EE fallback system probably uses a USB cellular modem.

    The nice thing about having the fallback at the router is that you can
    switch WAN-side connectivity without having to reconfigure any LAN-side addresses. That can save a lot of faff if you use fixed IP addresses,
    less so if all your devices rely on DHCP.

    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to Daniel James on Thu Oct 3 19:02:57 2024
    On 03/10/2024 11:00, Daniel James wrote:
    ... USB ports that support (some models of) USB cellular modem.

    Seems I'm a bit behind the times. There are routers these days that
    contain integrated 5g modems ... at a price.

    This sort of thing:

    https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/52033-draytek-v2865l-5g-k/

    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Gaines on Sun Oct 6 09:18:03 2024
    On 02/10/2024 in message <[email protected]> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    Could I do something on a DIY basis if I ditched the PN Modem 2 for
    something else?

    Many thanks for all the input :-)

    It looks as if it could be an expensive option for what, so far, has been
    rare outages but at least I have an idea what the options are.

    Daniel James pointed out that Plusnet is a subsidiary of BT yet the
    service levels are widely different. Plusnet's service centre is in
    Yorkshire rather than Mumbai and much more helpful if you can manage the accent!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and only a stairway to heaven says
    a lot about anticipated traffic numbers.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Oct 7 13:53:06 2024
    On 07/10/2024 in message <ve0m5a$1nmnq$[email protected]> Chris wrote:

    Daniel James pointed out that Plusnet is a subsidiary of BT yet the
    service levels are widely different. Plusnet's service centre is in >>Yorkshire rather than Mumbai and much more helpful if you can manage the >>accent!

    This is an outdated view. BT onshored their help desks for broadband quite
    a few years ago.

    I wasn't aware of that, I wonder if my complaint about their dreadful
    service brought it about?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Most people have heard of Karl Marx the philosopher but few know of his
    sister Onya the Olympic runner.
    Her name is still mentioned at the start of every race.

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