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    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 10 08:09:05 2024
    I stream radio to avoid having an aerial fitted. Are the broadcasters able
    to work out my location? I seem to get a lot of local adverts.

    I thought they would only be able to pick up the point at which I was
    inserted into the Internet.

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Jul 10 10:08:34 2024
    On 10/07/2024 09:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I stream radio to avoid having an aerial fitted. Are the broadcasters
    able to work out my location? I seem to get a lot of local adverts.

    I thought they would only be able to pick up the point at which I was inserted into the Internet.



    What are you streaming to / with - and are you using an "app" ?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Jul 10 09:31:17 2024
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I stream radio to avoid having an aerial fitted. Are the broadcasters
    able to work out my location?

    'ish.

    I seem to get a lot of local adverts.

    I thought they would only be able to pick up the point at which I was inserted into the Internet.

    Geolocating IP addrs is not a precise science, when it works well I
    might get adverts for the local FE college, when it's not doing so well
    I get adverts, in Welsh, for NHS blood donation ...

    Generally I like the fact that their location is quite fuzzy.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 10 10:08:18 2024
    On 10/07/2024 in message <v6lj2i$1rk2u$[email protected]> Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    On 10/07/2024 09:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I stream radio to avoid having an aerial fitted. Are the broadcasters
    able to work out my location? I seem to get a lot of local adverts.

    I thought they would only be able to pick up the point at which I was >>inserted into the Internet.



    What are you streaming to / with - and are you using an "app" ?

    Radios.

    A Roberts Stream-93i in the bedroom and a Yamaha RX-S601D in the lounge. I don't notice local ads on the Yamaha but it is very much background music
    to me.

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed Jul 10 11:57:44 2024
    Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I stream radio to avoid having an aerial fitted. Are the broadcasters
    able to work out my location?

    'ish.

    I seem to get a lot of local adverts.

    I thought they would only be able to pick up the point at which I was inserted into the Internet.

    Geolocating IP addrs is not a precise science, when it works well I
    might get adverts for the local FE college, when it's not doing so well
    I get adverts, in Welsh, for NHS blood donation ...

    Generally I like the fact that their location is quite fuzzy.

    It's possible that some device you have at home will 'improve' the
    geolocation. For example, if you have Google Maps open with location turned
    on an Android phone, I think Google will phone home the (IP; GPS coords)
    pair. They do that for legitimate purposes (location to know where to
    centre the map and what traffic is nearby, and the IP to send you the
    answer) but I couldn't say for sure they don't also update a geo IP database (which Google would then use to sling ads). Obviously that's going to be misleading for a mobile network but it might work for designated fixed broadband networks.

    Of course what'll happen next is your ISP changes your dynamic IP and, until you run Maps again, you get the geolocation of the previous user of that IP.

    Theo

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Theo on Wed Jul 10 13:13:20 2024
    Theo wrote:

    It's possible that some device you have at home will 'improve' the geolocation. For example, if you have Google Maps open with location turned on an Android phone, I think Google will phone home the (IP; GPS coords) pair.

    yesbut, I have a bank of 8 IPs and masquerade some devices differently
    to others ...

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Jul 10 18:25:01 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:09:05 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I stream radio to avoid having an aerial fitted. Are the broadcasters
    able to work out my location? I seem to get a lot of local adverts.

    I thought they would only be able to pick up the point at which I was inserted into the Internet.

    My results are anomalous (as already discussed by others).
    Scary messages from Avast telling me I am expose to the Internet just list
    the point where my VM connection joins the big bad Internet (about 15
    miles away).

    Some mapping pages seem to know my exact location and as this PC doesn't
    have GPS and as I don't deliberately synchronise between PCs and phones
    this must be due to arcane magic.

    Or it remembers when I use my home town as a start/end point for route calculation.

    Or Amazon tells on me.

    Or something.

    Cheers



    Dave R



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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to David on Wed Jul 10 21:39:55 2024
    On 10 Jul 2024 at 19:25:01 BST, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scary messages from Avast

    Avast of course has solid business reasons to try and scare you.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    "The more wrong a guy gets, the louder he yells at the person
    trying to help him. Which, inevitably, makes him even
    wronger. But less helped."
    -- Merlin Mann

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to David on Mon Aug 5 11:49:56 2024
    On 10/07/2024 19:25, David wrote:
    Or Amazon tells on me.

    We've got an Echo Dot, and obviously Amazon know my address. A couple of
    years ago it started giving us weather for the nearest city, rather than
    the town just down the road over the county boundary.

    Andy

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