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  • Re: CPU Ideas

    From Pancho@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Oct 16 14:07:26 2023
    On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
    daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.

    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
    having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 12:30:54 2023
    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my daughters
    won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.

    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile having
    a punt at one?

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Pancho on Mon Oct 16 13:45:15 2023
    On 16/10/2023 in message <ugjcif$1e2u6$[email protected]> Pancho wrote:

    On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my daughters >>won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.

    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
    having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

    I checked the speed 3 times and still got it wrong, thank you you've save
    me a lot of hassle for nothing!

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    This joke was so funny when I heard it for the first time I fell of my dinosaur.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Pancho on Mon Oct 16 16:07:00 2023
    Pancho <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
    daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.

    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
    having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

    The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
    The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it makes much difference: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Theo on Mon Oct 16 16:03:42 2023
    On 16/10/2023 in message <q3t*[email protected]> Theo wrote:

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile >>>having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

    The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's >useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
    The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it >makes much difference: >https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

    Many thanks Theo :-)

    I tried to find a site like that with no success, bookmarked now.

    I am very tempted to change direction and go for a Geekom NUC, perhaps an advance Christmas present as mince pies are on sale now!

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Oct 16 20:32:35 2023
    Jeff Gaines <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 16/10/2023 in message <q3t*[email protected]> Theo wrote:

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile >>>having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

    The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's >useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
    The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it >makes much difference: >https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

    Many thanks Theo :-)

    I tried to find a site like that with no success, bookmarked now.

    I am very tempted to change direction and go for a Geekom NUC, perhaps an advance Christmas present as mince pies are on sale now!

    TBH, unless it's a very cheap CPU upgrade and absolutely nothing else, I'd
    be looking at putting money towards something better, eg ex-corporate
    machines 2016 and later. I don't know if you care about Windows 11, but I'd guess the ones that can't run it 'officially' are going for less money on
    the used market. If you want small, there's plenty of SFF/USFF machines out there.

    Theo

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to Theo on Mon Oct 16 22:49:47 2023
    On 10/16/23 16:07, Theo wrote:
    Pancho <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
    daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU. >>>
    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
    having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

    The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
    The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it makes much difference: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

    I was looking at:

    <https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2500K/1979vs619>

    I'm not sure where their 5% comes from.

    Geekbench also gives 5% faster on single process, but 20% multi core.

    I did have a 2500K, and did upgrade it to a 4xxx something or other when
    it came out about 8 years ago. I couldn't tell the difference.

    Interestingly, Geekbench has the computer I'm currently typing this on
    (Orange Pi5), which cost about £100, as 26% faster than a 2500K and 62%
    faster multithread, and is using only 2 watts at the wall plug meter.
    (The downside is the drivers are shit)

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  • From Woozy Song@21:1/5 to Theo on Sat Oct 21 09:54:01 2023
    Theo wrote:
    Pancho <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
    daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU. >>>
    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
    having a punt at one?


    The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

    The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
    The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it makes much difference: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K


    I remember back then that Ivy Bridge was better than Sandy if thrashing
    all cores, as it ran cooler and didn't thermal throttle. But for a
    student/home PC, probably won't make much difference.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Oct 21 13:38:19 2023
    On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:30:54 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
    daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

    I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz
    CPU.

    Nice machine but slowish.

    There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
    having a punt at one?

    Is there much that you are doing which requires more CPU power?
    This AMD system was designed to give similar performance to my main i5
    2500k system (currently resting) at a reasonable price and so far I
    haven't found it lacking in performance for any major task.

    Video rendering might benefit from more poke, but AFAICR we have now
    stored the DVDs we want on HDD and don't plan rendering any more for the moment.

    Increase in performance has seemed pointless for 10 years or more unless
    you are an advanced game player or similar.

    Cheers



    Dave R

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