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    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 7 10:19:51 2021
    With Win 11 in mind I have reinstalled Win 10 on my Lenovo E490. I set up secure boot, UEFI etc. then during the install deleted all the existing partition and let it loose. I've even signed on with my MSFT account and
    set up a PIN (which I immediately forgot and had to reset).

    I then tried to shrink the main partition so I could add a "D" drive and I can't, apparently bitlocker is et up (not by me, must have been the
    install program).

    I have tried to turn it off but no success, as a bonus I couldn't log on
    to my main machine using remote desktop for some unknown reason, even if I
    tell it to use user name and password.

    None of the alleged ways of removing bitlocker work, and I have no idea
    what the password might be because I didn't set it up. Any way to turn it
    off or do I go back to MBR and non secure boot?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    Every day is a good day for chicken, unless you're a chicken.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Sep 7 12:34:24 2021
    Jeff Gaines <[email protected]> wrote:

    With Win 11 in mind I have reinstalled Win 10 on my Lenovo E490. I set up secure boot, UEFI etc. then during the install deleted all the existing partition and let it loose. I've even signed on with my MSFT account and
    set up a PIN (which I immediately forgot and had to reset).

    I then tried to shrink the main partition so I could add a "D" drive and I can't, apparently bitlocker is et up (not by me, must have been the
    install program).

    Why can't you shrink with Bitlocker enabled? https://marc-wouts.medium.com/how-to-resize-bitlocker-and-luks-encrypted-partitions-b8ee70697edb
    (I haven't tried this)

    I have tried to turn it off but no success, as a bonus I couldn't log on
    to my main machine using remote desktop for some unknown reason, even if I tell it to use user name and password.



    None of the alleged ways of removing bitlocker work, and I have no idea
    what the password might be because I didn't set it up. Any way to turn it
    off or do I go back to MBR and non secure boot?

    The key might be stored in the TPM, meaning you don't need a password.

    If you're reinstalling, you could just partition the drive during installation and install to a smaller partition. I think Bitlocker should then keep its paws off the rest of the drive.

    FWIW I installed Win11 in a 200GB VM without TPM, and then transferred the image across to a 1TB drive on a machine with TPM. Obviously at this point
    it can't be storing keys in the TPM, and it doesn't know about the extra
    800GB. I wouldn't recommend this as a general approach, but is one way to prevent Windows getting hold of the extra space.

    Theo

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Theo on Tue Sep 7 12:22:52 2021
    On 07/09/2021 in message <Oeh*[email protected]> Theo wrote:

    Why can't you shrink with Bitlocker enabled? >https://marc-wouts.medium.com/how-to-resize-bitlocker-and-luks-encrypted-partitions-b8ee70697edb
    (I haven't tried this)

    I was trying to use Mini Tool Partition Wizard, I did find the Windows
    tool but it uses expressions that are meaningless to me (as do a lot of
    people nowadays!).

    The key might be stored in the TPM, meaning you don't need a password.

    If you're reinstalling, you could just partition the drive during >installation
    and install to a smaller partition. I think Bitlocker should then keep its >paws off the rest of the drive.

    I did but used diskpart and went back to MBR so can now use Mini Tool
    Partition Wizard. I am at the stage where Win 10 is so alien that I might
    as well persevere with my MacBook Pro as a laptop, I use the Mac Mini for GarageBand and MainStage and am very pleased with it.

    Thanks!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    If you ever find something you like buy a lifetime supply because they
    will stop making it

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sun Jul 31 10:46:40 2022
    On 31/07/2022 10:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I thought I'd try an in place upgrade to Win10 on my remaining Win 8.1
    PC. It failed, no reason given and logs aren't Jeff readable.

    One suggestion was a service running that interfered with the upgrade so
    I disabled all non MSFT services and am trying again.

    It is downloading Win 10 again, is there not a way to get it to continue where it left off or at least use what it has already downloaded?


    My advice would be to use the "Media Creation Tool" and make yourself a bootable CD/DVD or USB stick, then do a virgin install.

    The trivial bits and pieces which you will miss out on by not
    "activating" Windows are hardly worth bothering about.


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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 31 09:30:15 2022
    I thought I'd try an in place upgrade to Win10 on my remaining Win 8.1 PC.
    It failed, no reason given and logs aren't Jeff readable.

    One suggestion was a service running that interfered with the upgrade so I disabled all non MSFT services and am trying again.

    It is downloading Win 10 again, is there not a way to get it to continue
    where it left off or at least use what it has already downloaded?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 31 10:27:06 2022
    On 31/07/2022 in message <tc5j21$8klp$[email protected]> Abandoned_Trolley
    wrote:

    On 31/07/2022 10:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I thought I'd try an in place upgrade to Win10 on my remaining Win 8.1
    PC. It failed, no reason given and logs aren't Jeff readable.

    One suggestion was a service running that interfered with the upgrade so
    I disabled all non MSFT services and am trying again.

    It is downloading Win 10 again, is there not a way to get it to continue >>where it left off or at least use what it has already downloaded?


    My advice would be to use the "Media Creation Tool" and make yourself a >bootable CD/DVD or USB stick, then do a virgin install.

    The trivial bits and pieces which you will miss out on by not "activating" >Windows are hardly worth bothering about.

    Yes, that's my preference too - and it's just failed a second time so I
    will do that! I have a digital licence for Win 10 so no activation issues.

    About 80% of my software doesn't use the registry and is on the "D" drive
    and will "just work" after a re-install.

    Four important programs are fine as long as I un-install while connected
    to the Internet before re-installing the OS, they send a message home and
    check on re-installing.

    Then, of course, there's MSFT Office. I have enough licences for 9 installations of the basic stuff and 2 for Access but every bogging time I re-install I end up doing 'phone activation which means taking down reams
    of numbers - I'm a touch dyslexic so that's asking for trouble :-(

    I do have Office 97 which will install on Win 10 - and actually just works
    from my "D" drive except it whines a bit about the registry. It's
    unbelievably fast on a modern PC and does have the stupid "Ribbon" taking
    up vertical space on modern short screens so a good fall back.

    Here goes, just to use "colorclassic" so I can put back some of the
    legibility MSFT has removed.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his
    life.
    (Jeremy Thorpe, 1962)

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Gaines on Sun Jul 31 13:47:51 2022
    On 31/07/2022 in message <[email protected]> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    The trivial bits and pieces which you will miss out on by not "activating" >>Windows are hardly worth bothering about.

    Yes, that's my preference too - and it's just failed a second time so I
    will do that! I have a digital licence for Win 10 so no activation issues.

    Well Win 10 is on but what a faff. It flatly refused to recognise the
    NVM.e thingy that is installed on the Asus Z170K board until I had removed
    the one that is on a PCIe card and all 4 of my backup SSD drives. I have
    added the storage NVMe and will put the SSD's back later. I did the shift
    F10 thing and used Diskpart but whatever Diskpart said (all was well) the installer didn't want to know.

    I remember this used to happen when SSDs first came out but still now?

    Oh, spell checker not installed apologies, will do next.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person that
    was responsible went immediately.
    (Gordon Brown, April 2009)

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